• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

The God of High School - Souls are pretty durable ig

Messages
7,059
Reaction score
5,570
I'm surprised this wasn't made before but yeah, I'll be explaining why GoH characters should have general resistance to soul manipulation - more specifically soul damaging abilities.The

The Borrowed Powers and souls​

Borrowed Power is the main power system of the verse. It works by summoning either a part of or the entire person either in a stand-like fashion or within your body to increase your own physical ability.
Besides the glaring visual implication of a ghostly version of a character flying around the user, it is described to be a spiritual power, often said to be the "soul", "spirit", or "half-ghost" of the person who's power you are borrowing. All things considered it is pretty clear that Borrowed Powers are inherently the souls of people. This is relevant because BPs retain most of the person's physical capabilities, usually being more bound by the connection to the borrower than by their spiritual nature. We can see this through examples where Borrowed Powers can interact with and block attacks capable of interacting with them, and even matching and damaging each others attacks.

That is to say that souls of GoH characters that can become Borrowed Powers retain not just most of their power but also most of their durability. And who can become a BP in GoH? Literally everyone, something that actually happens at the end of the series at least for a moment.

The Dragon argument​

During his side quest to gain new Yeouis, Mori has to fight dragons in order to make them submit to him and accept him as their master. These dragons are yet again, just their souls of dragons that have been killed thousands of millenia ago, and yet they're capable of taking strong attacks which are capable of interacting with them. Not only that, even the ancient Ogre who was only left with the mind portion of her soul still retained her durability against soul damaging attacks.

Conclusion​

It's pretty clear that souls within GoH retain the same or comparable level of durability as their physical bodies. As such any soul-damaging attack would still have to overcome their durability in order to actually damage the souls rather than acting as durability negation. This means that all souls in GoH should get basic resistance to soul damage

Agree(obviously): M2u12, Yeolban, ShroobWasTaken, Vietthai96, Godernet, Imaginym
Disagree(stinky boy):
 
Last edited:
disagree

Doubt this will work against some specific hax though
Not really my aim here ngl.
The whole purpose of this thread is to establish that attacks which are capable of damaging the soul will either need some additional durability negation on top of that or to bypass the durability of the soul as well.
 
Tbh, I disagree that souls have durability to begin with, and also, don't see how abstract hax can be scaled to AP or durability... SO yeah.... I find the entire idea mold.
 
Ngl I read the reply like 5x and I'm still unsure of what you're saying.
School just makes you tired and unable to write

Basically, I disagree with the proposal on a fundamental level that anything abstract/non-physical can have a durability, or even AP.
 
School just makes you tired and unable to write

Basically, I disagree with the proposal on a fundamental level that anything abstract/non-physical can have a durability, or even AP.
Well by that logic every single incorporeal character on the wiki should automatically have no AP or durability.

Which I guess you could but that wouldn't really be disagreement with this proposal but rather with how the wiki (and many authors) treat souls
 
Looking at it, the soul in TGOH the verse don't have physical interaction and can only affects the world thanks to being bound to a physical object and become half ghost, it's the case of King UMA and The Dragons. Borrowed power mechanic also bends the soul of the god to the user.
There is also no case with a living being fighting a soul that is bound to someone or something.
I agree with the fact that the soul power is proportional to the power of the characters but only when it is bound to the physical world.
 
Looking at it, the soul in TGOH the verse don't have physical interaction and can only affects the world thanks to being bound to a physical object and become half ghost,
Based on what? Literally nothing implies that.
it's the case of King UMA
Proof?
and The Dragons.
No… the dragons were not bound to anything that was the whole purpose of Mori fighting them. They were spirits and when Mori defeated them he could infuse the Yeouis with their souls.
Borrowed power mechanic also bends the soul of the god to the user.
There is also no case with a living being fighting a soul that is bound to someone or something.
I assume you meant there's no case of a living being fighting a soul that is NOT bound to someone or something.

In which case you're still wrong because the dragons, especially Ogre, were not bound to something.
I agree with the fact that the soul power is proportional to the power of the characters but only when it is bound to the physical world.
Based on what?

You keep repeating something about being bound to the physical world but you didn't show any evidence. Literally nothing ever even remotely implies souls only gain durability when bound to something or someone.

It ultimately wouldn't matter because anyone in GoH would still qualify since their souls would be bound to the physical world through their body anyway (and if they weren't that'd mean their bodies aren't in the physical world making them immune to soul hax altogether), but it's still a weird thing to just assume.
 
That doesn't say or imply you need to be bound to a physical object or person to have power/durability. It just means she can leave the staff she attached herself to and interact with the world rather than being stuck in it or being sent to the afterlife like dead people's souls usually do.
 
Last edited:
Wait so according to vsbw standards soul manip doesn't care about durability?
 
Wait so according to vsbw standards soul manip doesn't care about durability?
Yep normally souls are not assumed to have any sort of durability meaning if a character has an ability that allows them to hit the soul directly they can usually harm it even if it's a wall level character hitting a galaxy level characters soul. It's a big part to why abilities like Bleach's soul crush have been so prominent in the wiki.
 
Yep normally souls are not assumed to have any sort of durability meaning if a character has an ability that allows them to hit the soul directly they can usually harm it even if it's a wall level character hitting a galaxy level characters soul. It's a big part to why abilities like Bleach's soul crush have been so prominent in the wiki.
oh damn... agree then
 
Tbh, I disagree that souls have durability to begin with, and also, don't see how abstract hax can be scaled to AP or durability... SO yeah.... I find the entire idea mold.
Not true, we already have verses having resistances to soul damage because of their soul as strong as their bodies (Dragon Ball and Undertale as samples). So a disagreement would need staff thread.
 
Based on the opening post's wording, this seems pretty clear cut, & so, although I do not know the 'verse, it seems uncontroversial enough for me to tentatively provide my approval for.
 
Back
Top