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Yoriichi Tsugikuni Vs Yujiro Hanma (Demon Slayer Vs Grappler Baki) [12-0-0]

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Yoriichi Tsugikuni Vs Yujiro Hanma
Yoriichi Tsugikuni
Attack Potency: 29 Kilotons
Durability: 29 Kilotons
Lifting Strength: Class 50

Yujiro Hanma
Attack Potency: 15 Kilotons
Durability: 15 Kilotons
Lifting Strength: Class M

Speed is equalized
Fight takes place in Swordsmith Village
Yoriichi starts off in Selfless State

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Fight OST:


Yoriichi Tsugikuni: @LegendariumOfLies @GodEarh206 @Catbowtie @Kavopaco @Machmatej @Epyriel @CastoriceTheFifth @Xaropadob3ta @ShadowWhoWalks @Robo432343 @MyriadOfHeartsSpiritualFlowerGarden @NotoriouSoda

Yujiro Hanma:
 
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i mean, how did Yujiro manage to catch Yoriichi 🗿, Yoriichi has TW which allows him to see all of Yujiro's weak points as well as slow down his movements.
 
LS is usually a meme, but in this case it actually matter b/c Yujiro goes for the grab often. Yoriichi isn't defenseless mind you - he should have atleast some CQC training scaling off Tanjiro - however, that is nowhere near Yujiro's level.

AP is a problem for the Demon Back Flexer, but it is only 2x and only a problem for his base, with Demon Back Yujiro can go higher. However, the same can be said Yoriichi,. So in the end, AP is either an advantage to Yoriichi or net neutral.

Now comes another popular talking point- skill. Contrary to popular belief, Yujiro does not skill-stomp. Yoriichi skill is so god-like that even current gen demon slayer have tough time keeping up with it, he defeated a master swordsman when he was 5, and was constantly training and fighting demons well into his adult life. Granted, you can argue none of this scales to Musashi and his BS Level of skill, but it is something.

Now, onto hax. Technically, Yujiro is smarter via both being Genius but Yujiro being in the modern era - leading to him have more knowledge - and he has resistance to information analysis. However, I don't think it matters. Transparent World is extremly ******* broken, literally allowing Yoriichi to see the contractions of his opponents muscle. That is shit Yujiro just hasn't had to deal with before.

It might be tough, but Yoriichi should take this High Difficulty,
 
LegendariumOfLies said:
LS is usually a meme, but in this case it actually matter b/c Yujiro goes for the grab often. Yoriichi isn't defenseless mind you - he should have atleast some CQC training scaling off Tanjiro - however, that is nowhere near Yujiro's level.

AP is a problem for the Demon Back Flexer, but it is only 2x and only a problem for his base, with Demon Back Yujiro can go higher. However, the same can be said Yoriichi,. So in the end, AP is either an advantage to Yoriichi or net neutral.

Now comes another popular talking point- skill. Contrary to popular belief, Yujiro does not skill-stomp. Yoriichi skill is so god-like that even current gen demon slayer have tough time keeping up with it, he defeated a master swordsman when he was 5, and was constantly training and fighting demons well into his adult life. Granted, you can argue none of this scales to Musashi and his BS Level of skill, but it is something.

Now, onto hax. Technically, Yujiro is smarter via both being Genius but Yujiro being in the modern era - leading to him have more knowledge - and he has resistance to information analysis. However, I don't think it matters. Transparent World is extremly ******* broken, literally allowing Yoriichi to see the contractions of his opponents muscle. That is shit Yujiro just hasn't had to deal with before.

It might be tough, but Yoriichi should take this High Difficulty,
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Yujiro is a TW user himself, seeing people with X-ray vision and seeing their weak points.

He blocks damage to himself with Xiao Li, like Retsu did in Retsu Issekai, and dodges all attacks with analytical prediction. It's so ridiculous and complex that it's just absurd.

0.5 sec difference also allows him to read the enemy's intentions before they even move. Yoriichi is just in the palm of his hand.

Yujiro does everything he does, copies any technique and movement at a glance, reflects and disperses damage with Xiao Li, resists prediction and reads it many moves ahead.

x2 AP difference is not a problem in Bakiverse
 
NikHelton said:
Yujiro is a TW user himself, seeing people with X-ray vision and seeing their weak points.

He blocks damage to himself with Xiao Li, like Retsu did in Retsu Issekai, and dodges all attacks with analytical prediction. It's so ridiculous and complex that it's just absurd.

0.5 sec difference also allows him to read the enemy's intentions before they even move. Yoriichi is just in the palm of his hand.

Yujiro does everything he does, copies any technique and movement at a glance, reflects and disperses damage with Xiao Li, resists prediction and reads it many moves ahead.

x2 AP difference is not a problem in Bakiverse
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Will reply later. Sleeping rn.
 
NikHelton said:
Yujiro is a TW user himself, seeing people with X-ray vision and seeing their weak points.

He blocks damage to himself with Xiao Li, like Retsu did in Retsu Issekai, and dodges all attacks with analytical prediction. It's so ridiculous and complex that it's just absurd.

0.5 sec difference also allows him to read the enemy's intentions before they even move. Yoriichi is just in the palm of his hand.
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Yoriichi does all that except better, because Yoriichi can see everything in slow motion (for example Tanjiro perceived Akaza and Giyu, who are both comparable, if not superior to him in speed, as if they were completely frozen), and has a massive skill advantage with Sun Breathing that would allow him to completely outmaneuver Yujiro in the fight. Plus, Yoriichi has analytical prediction and information analysis of his own to counter that of Yujiro's, not to mention the instinctive reaction superior to the likes of Mitsuri, who is able to dodge attacks that are quite literally invisible from her perspective.
NikHelton said:
He blocks damage to himself with Xiao Li, like Retsu did in Retsu Issekai
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x2 AP difference is not a problem in Bakiverse
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Except Yoriichi has heat manipulation with his Red Blade, that can burn people on a cellular level. Yujiro has no resistance to this himself, so he'd still get really hurt if he tries blocking or parrying his sword strikes, possibly even losing limbs. Yoriichi can effectively negate durability here, any direct attack on a vital spot is insta-death. And the heat is an even greater problem when factoring in the AP difference. Worth mentioning Yoriichi massively upscales his value, considering he can one-shot people who scale 2x above Yujiro.

Also, elaborate on "x2 difference is not a problem". Has Yujiro ever fought someone more than twice as strong as he is? Because Yoriichi is used to fighting people weaker than himself, people who would also be at least 2x above Yujiro.
 
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Yeah TW alone should give Yoriichi a massive edge.
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Considering how absurd the boost to perception speed is depicted as, even without the Analytical Prediction and Precognition, being able to see what your opponent is doing in slow motion gives you a massive advantage in CQC. With the 2x AP gap as well I don’t see him losing this.

Voting Yoriichi.
 
Hey Eepy quick question could a 3D character use pure LS to create a black hole?
 
is there anything Yujiro can do to Yoriichi spamming 13th form, or making a new form to fight him, or blitz him with fake rainbow or predict everything he has with the STW


if anything assuming Yoriichi is "Town level" in base ie without the sun breathing, he should just one shot if he uses it, but idk if that's true here, even without assuming that if he scales to breath amped forms, he still one shots considering the AP amp sun breathing offers as shown in the rui fight.
 
MyriadOfHeartsSpiritualFlowerGarden said:
is there anything Yujiro can do to Yoriichi spamming 13th form, or making a new form to fight him, or blitz him with fake rainbow or predict everything he has with the STW


if anything assuming Yoriichi is "Town level" in base ie without the sun breathing, he should just one shot if he uses it, but idk if that's true here, even without assuming that if he scales to breath amped forms, he still one shots considering the AP amp sun breathing offers as shown in the rui fight.
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Yoriichi doesn't have any AP amps, or blitz amps beyond the STW on his profile. So in this fight, he can't do any of that
 
Will go with Yoriichi.

Yoriichi described Muzan's attacks as fast. After glancing at Muzan's body with the Transparent World, he improved his sword technique and blitzed Muzan.

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Yujiro can overcome the starting AP gap with Demon Back, but it is questionable he will have the chance to use it, and it wouldn't be enough to overcome Yoriichi.
 
Machmatej said:
Yoriichi doesn't have any AP amps, or blitz amps beyond the STW on his profile. So in this fight, he can't do any of that
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his breathing forms need to be indexed in order to be utilized?

indexed how tho?

like he has them in profile last i checked, so going off of the manga they offer a substantial boost in speed, and besides that, he can use the sun breathing, which was shown to passively give like one or two orders of magnitudes higher AP amplification than even tanjiro's strongest water breathing form.
 
MyriadOfHeartsSpiritualFlowerGarden said:
his breathing forms need to be indexed in order to be utilized?

indexed how tho?

like he has them in profile last i checked, so going off of the manga they offer a substantial boost in speed, and besides that, he can use the sun breathing, which was shown to passively give like one or two orders of magnitudes higher AP amplification than even tanjiro's strongest water breathing form.
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characters can't increase their speed or AP beyond what's listed in their profiles. Unless there's a "higher" somewhere in his AP or Speed sections, then you can't give him any other amps. Otherwise this match is invalid.
 
Yujiro is more skilled than Yoriichi (extraordinary combat genius vs genius) so i'll vote him
 
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I don't know much about Yujiro since I don't watch Baki. I think Yoriichi is more likely to win based on his combat hax as well as his feats (not really a fan of labels since they're incredibly subject) but I don't want to hop on the FRA train just yet until there's a proper argument made for Yujiro
 
Robo432343 said:
He'll just copy all of Yoriichi's techniques and outskill him
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People just throw around "out-skill" for anything. Actually impossible for Yujiro to randomly out-skill Yoriichi when Yoriichi is seeing Yujiro move in slow motion and is quite literally knowing the exact actions Yujiro will do.

Yujiro doesn't have a sword anyways.
 
Catbowtie said:
People just throw around "out-skill" for anything. Actually impossible for Yujiro to randomly out-skill Yoriichi when Yoriichi is seeing Yujiro move in slow motion and is quite literally knowing the exact actions Yujiro will do.

Yujiro doesn't have a sword anyways.
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yujiro will pull out a sword from his ass
 
Robo432343 said:
Yujiro has mastered virtually every martial art known to man including ones only passed down through noble blood and can instantly master any technique after seeing it once. He'll just copy all of Yoriichi's techniques and outskill him
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This is listed it in his weaknesses, actually.

"He tends to not counter with the opponent's mastered arts because he considers it to be rude."

So it would not just be out of character, but it would also be kind of impossible to copy Yoriichi's techniques since they revolve around sword fighting... While Yujiro is barehanded. See the issue?
 
Machmatej said:
This is listed it in his weaknesses, actually.

"He tends to not counter with the opponent's mastered arts because he considers it to be rude."

So it would not just be out of character, but it would also be kind of impossible to copy Yoriichi's techniques since they revolve around sword fighting... While Yujiro is barehanded. See the issue?
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ok nvm i'll vote yoriichi

grace??
 
i thought baki and the r*pe stuff is something i'd only see in Youtube comments, so for the love of all that's holy @LegendariumOfLies delete it
Robo432343 said:
Yujiro has mastered virtually every martial art known to man including ones only passed down through noble blood and can instantly master any technique after seeing it once. He'll just copy all of Yoriichi's techniques and outskill him
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me being repusled aside, the sun breathing is harder to learn than the moon breathing which was unable to be passed on to anyone even with the user actively trying to pass it on, sword forms are also inherently linked to the specific breathing style itself, it's like a wuxia energy method with forms of its own, i doubt Yujiro can do that


i will vote Yoriichi and unfollow, sorry for the overreaction, but i hate that panel, see ya all
 
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