Isshiki Otsuktsuki Vs Perfect Cell

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Isshiki Vs Cell

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Location: A random Super Earth as big as Kepler 22-B.
Rules;

1. Speed is equalized
2. True Form Isshiki is used. Perfect Cell Key Is Used
3. Both characters start 100 meters apart

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Let's see who's more prestige.. shall we?

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Let's see how this goes

 

[Gamecooob]

Only thing I see being a threat to Cell are the black rods

But cell has like, a 30x AP advantage (unless im missing something) so he likely just aurafucks Isshiki

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Only thing I see being a threat to Cell are the black rods

But cell has like, a 30x AP advantage (unless im missing something) so he likely just aurafucks Isshiki

Correction. The AP difference is only 2.5x. Isshiki scales to 29 Foe While Cell scales to 65 Foe.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

I also wanna point out that Isshiki's cubes are squashing Cell like a bug. The LS difference is incredible.

 

[IvarUHQ]

From the moment you propose an equal speed battle with Cell, we already know why. You're taking away his win condition, which is the blitz, but that's okay. Cell's AP is enough. I don't see how Ishiki can overcome Cell's regeneration, so Cell wins because Ishiki is unable to kill or knock out his opponent.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

From the moment you propose an equal speed battle with Cell, we already know why. You're taking away his win condition, which is the blitz, but that's okay. Cell's AP is enough. I don't see how Ishiki can overcome Cell's regeneration, so Cell wins because Ishiki is unable to kill or knock out his opponent.

Um. Sir, If I don't equalize speed then the match isn't fair. That's literally all matches on the wiki.

 

[Gamecooob]

Correction. The AP difference is only 2.5x. Isshiki scales to 29 Foe While Cell scales to 65 Foe.

I am angry now. How dare you point out my profile-reading illiteracy


Anyways, uhh, Cell still pretty much like upscales ALOT from 65 Foe, so his shit is gonna ROCK Isshiki in. Completely skillstomped aswell, and (maybe) we can add on the Soul Damage from Ki aswell. (maybe)

I also wanna point out that Isshiki's cubes are squashing Cell like a bug. The LS difference is incredible.

Kid named Instant Transmission:

 

[TiltedFN]

Isshiki lacks soul damage resistance so cell hard negs, mismatch. Nothing isshiki puts out is going to be enough to actually completely put cell down. Lets say he does actually put out enough damage to destroy cell, cell has insane endurance and has survived his own self destruction. Cell can literally come back more powerful than ever and turn it to even more of a stomp. Cell overcomes paralysis via scaling from Goku even if the rods do hit. Only method is sealing cell. Cell is much more versatile in fighting and techniques. Having many ki blast techniques and overall destructive force to overwhelm isshiki. Not to mention being a brawler isn't going to turn out well at all.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

we can add on the Soul Damage from Ki aswell. (maybe)

I read the profiles before hand. Soul Damage by the description it shows isn't meant to be an ability that harms the soul of an opponent but as a means to harm opponents who are souls/have a median body but when said body is it, it reaches the soul of the original body

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

I understand everyone's plead tho. This match is a stomp sadly

 

[TiltedFN]

I read the profiles before hand. Soul Damage by the description it shows isn't meant to be an ability that harms the soul of an opponent but as a means to harm opponents who are souls/have a median body but when said body is it, it reaches the soul of the original body

No that's wrong. Ki does actually harm the soul. On the page it was just the justification which was supposed to be updated but wasn't.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

No that's wrong. Ki does actually harm the soul. On the page it was just the justification which was supposed to be updated but wasn't.

I see that's my baddd

 

[TiltedFN]

I see that's my baddd

It's not entirely your fault. All good.

 

[Shar122]

I read the profiles before hand. Soul Damage by the description it shows isn't meant to be an ability that harms the soul of an opponent but as a means to harm opponents who are souls/have a median body but when said body is it, it reaches the soul of the original body

it harms the soul of the opponent directly, it does not just harm spiritual being/souls..
It's already accepted in this thread, that it can indeed inflict soul damage properties regardless of a physical body or not.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Ishikki instantly seals cell in a timeless dimension.. end of match.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Isshiki lacks soul damage resistance so cell hard negs, mismatch. Nothing isshiki puts out is going to be enough to actually completely put cell down. Lets say he does actually put out enough damage to destroy cell, cell has insane endurance and has survived his own self destruction. Cell can literally come back more powerful than ever and turn it to even more of a stomp. Cell overcomes paralysis via scaling from Goku even if the rods do hit. Only method is sealing cell. Cell is much more versatile in fighting and techniques. Having many ki blast techniques and overall destructive force to overwhelm isshiki. Not to mention being a brawler isn't going to turn out well at all.

Ishikki does. General shinobi do. It's just profiles are so ass rn that it's only on updated profiles like hag or Itachi e.tc

 

[DavidTPPM]

From the moment you propose an equal speed battle with Cell, we already know why. You're taking away his win condition, which is the blitz, but that's okay. Cell's AP is enough. I don't see how Ishiki can overcome Cell's regeneration, so Cell wins because Ishiki is unable to kill or knock out his opponent.

99.9% of vs threads in the wiki are speed equalized. We want to have an interesting discussion on the match up not "haha speed blitz gg"

 

[Kidkinsey]

The best wincon here is isshiki sealing tbh, its kinda weird how while boruto villains being able to absorb or neg ninjutsu in verse makes fights boring but CROSSVERSE makes them cheese because like he can shrink or absorb basically every ki attack

Now granted if cell continues to get stronger through the match isshiki is in trouble but rn isshiki has more in his bag

 

[MeiouHades]

Ishikki instantly seals cell in a timeless dimension.. end of match.

I don't know how in-character it is for him to do that.

 

[karo_senpaii]

I don't know how in-character it is for him to do that.

It's actually not his first move in character..only issue here is both his eyes read power levels immediately. He's going to know that cell is superior to him.

I still don't think that he's go for sealing immediately. He'll first starts with his rods typically and considering there's 10x faster than himself and they're a form of duraneg I actually think that's enough to win.

To put in perspective here Naruto has class z LS in base yet requires six path mode to break free. Granted profiles are not updated to reflect that so I'll scratch that. The most up to date LS strength Rn is kid Naruto as class T. Even if we just go by profiles and leave it as class G cell is still cooked regardless.

I think cells only options here are to repeatedly make an omnidirectional blast coming out of his body to break the rods since he has a > 2x ap advantage but that would just hurt him also and deplete his stamina in the long run. So like that alone is a win on for ishikki. If it's not enough and he is proving too hard to kill then he'd just seal him. He tends to do that for opponents that would take too much effort to kill.


So to me all ishikki wincons are almost guaranteed due to the sheer speed difference while cell attacks can still be dodged or countered. If cell fires ki blasts he'll just shrink it. Cell only wincons is to somehow pummel ishikki until he is incapacitated with just a 2x strength difference. He's going to be riddled with holes by the rods and sealed before he can even achieve that

 

[IvarUHQ]

It's actually not his first move in character..only issue here is both his eyes read power levels immediately. He's going to know that cell is superior to him.

I still don't think that he's go for sealing immediately. He'll first starts with his rods typically and considering there's 10x faster than himself and they're a form of duraneg I actually think that's enough to win.

To put in perspective here Naruto has class z LS in base yet requires six path mode to break free. Granted profiles are not updated to reflect that so I'll scratch that. The most up to date LS strength Rn is kid Naruto as class T. Even if we just go by profiles and leave it as class G cell is still cooked regardless.

I think cells only options here are to repeatedly make an omnidirectional blast coming out of his body to break the rods since he has a > 2x ap advantage but that would just hurt him also and deplete his stamina in the long run. So like that alone is a win on for ishikki. If it's not enough and he is proving too hard to kill then he'd just seal him. He tends to do that for opponents that would take too much effort to kill.


So to me all ishikki wincons are almost guaranteed due to the sheer speed difference while cell attacks can still be dodged or countered. If cell fires ki blasts he'll just shrink it. Cell only wincons is to somehow pummel ishikki until he is incapacitated with just a 2x strength difference. He's going to be riddled with holes by the rods and sealed before he can even achieve that

First of all, I want to remind you that speed equals equality, so I don't know why you're talking about it. Secondly, Cell just used telekinesis to bring him back into contact with him and the one shot.

 

[Testarossa002]

From a brief scan of Cell's profile, I'm not seeing anything that helps him deal with:

• isshiki's shrinking
• The speed of his shrinking (10x above the equalised speed)
• Aura suppression

Cell's regeneration is reliant on a core in his head
Not only does he have experience with that type of regeneration (Boro) and has jacked up X-ray vision (byakugan), aiming for the head (the eyes) is a standard move for him (see vs. Koji)
Cell dies before he even realizes what hit him
The speed advantage makes this a stomp
Besides, the 4-B rating is all but nonexistent

First of all, I want to remind you that speed equals equality

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[Fallen_Angelicx]

Me forgetting that Isshiki can easily evade attacks from Cell due to being able to shrink to microscopic levels instantly aswell as him being pretty much unsenseable to Cell. Ki Blasts can be nullified with Sukunahiko with a single glance. Energy attacks likely get evaded. Isshiki has access to whole pillars, which one he locates cell's regenerative point with the Byakugan, he can destroy it with instant Sukunahiko which cell is unable to react to due to insufficient speed. Also I remember this man has rods tens of meters in size which would pretty much crush and disintegrate Cells whole body once they're enlarged. Cell has an AP advantage, but it's pretty much useless if he can't hit Isshiki has easily and as efficient to deal damage and out due his stamina, as which Cell can be worn down overtime and oh isn't this tragic;

Cell is extremely overconfident and desires a good fight above all else due to his Saiyan blood, he relishes a good challenge and will avoid fighting at full power and let opponents reach their most powerful states to get one

These are just my thoughts tho, looking over, Isshiki indeed has ways to maneuver Cells capabilities.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Muzan victims

 

[LaserPrecision]

Muzan victims

You didn't wanna say that in the Cell vs Muzan match tho

 

[Gamecooob]

Muzan victims

That man's a Pre-timeskip Buggy + Gintoki victim

 

[Chariot190]

From the moment you propose an equal speed battle with Cell, we already know why. You're taking away his win condition, which is the blitz, but that's okay.

They hated him because he spoke the truth.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Is this fight deemed a stomp or not? Lmk so I can remove the stomp tag from the title. I wish to know if this is arguable or not

 

[TauanVictor]

Is this fight deemed a stomp or not? Lmk so I can remove the stomp tag from the title. I wish to know if this is arguable or not

Both characters have wincons. The discussion should be whether or not these wincons can be achieved.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Both characters have wincons. The discussion should be whether or not these wincons can be achieved.

True.

 

[IvarUHQ]

From a brief scan of Cell's profile, I'm not seeing anything that helps him deal with:

• isshiki's shrinking
• The speed of his shrinking (10x above the equalised speed)
• Aura suppression

Cell's regeneration is reliant on a core in his head
Not only does he have experience with that type of regeneration (Boro) and has jacked up X-ray vision (byakugan), aiming for the head (the eyes) is a standard move for him (see vs. Koji)
Cell dies before he even realizes what hit him
The speed advantage makes this a stomp
Besides, the 4-B rating is all but nonexistent

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I'm not stupid, it's just that the translator doesn't know how to translate what I want. I know the SBA better than you, without being arrogant. The fact that you equalized the speed proves that there is an inferiority on one side, which is Isshiki. I'm just saying that Cell will use telekinesis, which is a hack like any other hack, and he'll blow Isshiki up from the inside.

 

[Robo432343]

I'm not stupid, it's just that the translator doesn't know how to translate what I want. I know the SBA better than you, without being arrogant. The fact that you equalized the speed proves that there is an inferiority on one side, which is Isshiki. I'm just saying that Cell will use telekinesis, which is a hack like any other hack, and he'll blow Isshiki up from the inside.

yes lets make MFTL characters fight subsonic characters from now on

 

[Kachon123]

I'm just saying that Cell will use telekinesis, which is a hack like any other hack, and he'll blow Isshiki up from the inside.

This isn't something Cell starts with and regardless it's far more likely that Isshiki will get his rods off with the 10x speed advantage.

 

[karo_senpaii]

I'm not stupid, it's just that the translator doesn't know how to translate what I want. I know the SBA better than you, without being arrogant. The fact that you equalized the speed proves that there is an inferiority on one side, which is Isshiki. I'm just saying that Cell will use telekinesis, which is a hack like any other hack, and he'll blow Isshiki up from the inside.

Ishikki has resistance to ESP and can go microscopic. Cell can't even sense him to pull that off

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Bump

 

[karo_senpaii]

Bump

What's cell speed without equalising?

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

What's cell speed without equalising?

Like MFTL+, it's not fair at all

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Bump

 

[Foriaa]

So Isshiki can erase his chakra presence, use Daihakuten to mess with Cell’s sensory capabilities, Sukunahikona to shrink himself and Cell’s attacks, Daikokuten to BFR him, and can absorb energy from Cell. What does Cell do here?