Curse Energy UES categorization (JJK)

[Rogue_Forge]

And would anyone scale to the meteor or would that remain a Jogo exclusive?

Realistically the God tiers (Gojo and Sukuna) should scale to the meteor, at least with their strongest attacks

 

[Epyriel]

And would anyone scale to the meteor or would that remain a Jogo exclusive?

Ideally there would be a followup thread if this gets accepted to revise characters in line with an NPES to decide things like that.

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Assuming this does get accepted, would that result in the Yorozu calcs getting accepted too? 7-A high tiers or just top tiers? Who would scale to Yorozu and who would scale to the meteor?

There is alot that needs to be clarified and evaluated before we get to the idea of the calc being accepted

For starters it hasn't been evaluated or accepted yet by any calc member and there has to be some consistency for it to be accepted or else it could be seen as an outlier

The armor likely only scales to yorozu in it and both Gojo and Sukuna since Sukuna was just getting scratched and hit by Yorozu when she uses the armor during combat as in base she doesnt show the capability of hitting or harming him

Not necessarily.
If it gets accepted as an NPES it means that the creation feats themselves can be scaled to AP, however whether or not it is valid to use Mass-Energy Equivalence in particular to calculate a given creation feat is another matter entirely. Typically that needs to pass a very high bar of evidence as to why mass-energy equivalence is intended and valid.

Otherwise creation feats are more commonly calculated using the Creation Feats Mass Table, which in Yorozu’s case wouldn’t give anything worthwhile.

There should be a case for Construction CT being able to utilize the Mass-Energy Equivalence due to the nature of Curse Energy and how it functions

But right now I'd rather keep that in a different thread as this thread is solely to discuss the application of NPES to Curse Energy

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Ideally there would be a followup thread if this gets accepted to revise characters in line with an NPES to decide things like that.

Also thank you Epyriel I would like for feats and scaling revisions to be discussed in another thread

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Bump

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Might be for the best to contact staff members

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I agree

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Might be for the best to contact staff members

I might start doing more of that

had this in the content revision promotion thread.

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

I agree

also counted

 

[Buraqibear]

Bump.

 

[Arkenis]

not a single mod still?

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

not a single mod still?

sent it to some but havent gotten one

Might send more in a bit but patience is key

 

[Buraqibear]

Bump

 

[Buraqibear]

Bump?

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

sent it to some but havent gotten one

Might send more in a bit but patience is key

who did you send it to?

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

who did you send it to?

Zaratthustra, Oblivion Of The Endless (These two were through message wall on the profile outside the forum so maybe do it again through the DM's but not sure if thats cool), Sent it in Content promotion thread and just recently the All purpose request thread

EDIT - Also bump

 

[FinePoint]

I'm not knowledgeable on the verse, but to me a Non Physical Energy System seems reasonable at least.

I'd definitely like to hear any rebuttals first if anyone has them though.

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

bump

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Not that good with UES, but I suppose this is fine.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

2 staff votes? within only... Checks calendar app... 2 days?

Peak

 

[FinePoint]

2 staff votes? within only... Checks calendar app... 2 days?

Peak

It helps to ask the right people.

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Not that good with UES, but I suppose this is fine.

With the CRT now having two accepted votes by two different Thread Moderators I think that it does mean that this CRT has been accepted unless there is something that I am missing (This is my first CRT that might be concluded so If I am missing anything I would like to know beforehand )

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

With the CRT now having two accepted votes by two different Thread Moderators I think that it does mean that this CRT has been accepted unless there is something that I am missing (This is my first CRT that might be concluded so If I am missing anything I would like to know beforehand )

it should be good after 24 hours

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

it should be good after 24 hours

Alright so I guess the 24 hour period starts now

Additionally I still invite anyone to give their input to this thread

 

[Jaynic1]

so what changes after this is accepted?

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

so what changes after this is accepted?

things...

 

[Epyriel]

it should be good after 24 hours

Alright so I guess the 24 hour period starts now

Additionally I still invite anyone to give their input to this thread

Actually the standard grace period for CRTs is 48 hours, but measured from the time of the thread’s creation, not from the time of its acceptance.

So this is good to go.

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

so what changes after this is accepted?

I am not entirely sure what will change however with the NPES and UES for Ryu specifically being accepted and applied after 24 hours it will take some time until we completely figure out the changes to scaling and such

there is some things that I do think about as potential changes but we get there when we get there

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Actually the standard grace period for CRTs is 48 hours, but measured from the time of the thread’s creation, not from the time of its acceptance.

So this is good to go.

Oh so the changes can be made now instead of having to wait for 24 hours?

 

[Epyriel]

Oh so the changes can be made now instead of having to wait for 24 hours?

Yep. Although the actual changes to statistics should first be settled in another thread.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Cant wait for the entire verse to scale to high Universal

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Yep. Although the actual changes to statistics should first be settled in another thread.

Oh definitely we should discuss the statistics in another thread

though with this now accepted we will need time to figure out and decide on the scaling for the verse as there is some potential stuff

 

[Jaynic1]

Cant wait for the entire verse to scale to high Universal

There's a reason its called infinite void...

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Cant wait for the entire verse to scale to high Universal

I know at the bare minimum nobodys getting the Planet to Universal stuff so no lol

 

[Rogue_Forge]

I know at the bare minimum nobodys getting the Planet to Universal stuff so no lol

Would something like Hollow Purple and Fuga scale to each other cause they're the "ultimate move" of 2 equally strong people (Fuga is called his ultimate secret skill and not WCS)

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Would something like Hollow Purple and Fuga scale to each other cause they're the "ultimate move" of 2 equally strong people (Fuga is called his ultimate secret skill and not WCS)

I am not sure

Its why I think we should discuss it more in general discussion and as a community discuss and figure out stuff like this as atm its uncertain to me

All I know is the following

1. we will not use the universal or planetary stuff from Yuki's blackhole and Yorozu's ball since those two attacks have specific conditions to be made which makes nothing scale to it
   
   
2. This could open for new feats or calcs

 

[FinePoint]

With the CRT now having two accepted votes by two different Thread Moderators I think that it does mean that this CRT has been accepted unless there is something that I am missing (This is my first CRT that might be concluded so If I am missing anything I would like to know beforehand )

It probably needs three votes since it's regarding JJK.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

It probably needs three votes since it's regarding JJK.

wait the staff thread was already applied?

 

[FinePoint]

wait the staff thread was already applied?

The staff thread is just about making a list of what qualifies.

The rule itself has always applied.

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

It probably needs three votes since it's regarding JJK.

Ah I see so one more vote is required

got it