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Introduction
Hello everyone
I know that we have been hit with many CRT’s relating to the verses ap, speed, etc and so for something different today's CRT will be about something different. The power system of Curse Energy and its relation to Universal Energy Systems (UES) and its subcategories as I would like to apply the power system of Curse Energy into the category of Non-Physical energy system and for a specific character, make them apply for Universal Energy System.General Gist
- We will discuss on the general idea of Universal Energy Systems alongside giving definitions to the sub categories (Limited Energy System, Non-Physical Energy System and Universal Energy System)
- We will discuss the idea of applying Curse Energy as a Limited Energy System and then as a Non-Physical Energy System
- We will discuss UES a bit but only for one character
General Definition of Universal Energy Systems
"Universal Energy Systems are a fairly common element in fictional stories possessed by certain characters to display incredible feats and powers, often being born out of fantastical or otherwise otherworldly elements such as Magic, Chakra, Chi and a myriad of other possible energy systems. Often the argument is made for a character’s specific powers to scale linearly to their physical statistics and other supernatural abilities in their arsenal, oftentimes being matched by an opposing view that these powers should be their own matter entirely."UES falls under three categories and the definitions are
Limited Energy System
a system in which supernatural or other feats, that are not based on the characters' body strengths, neither scale to physical statistics nor to all other non-physical powers the characters possess. However, certain sets of abilities still scale to each other due to being part of the same system. An example of that might be a character that uses both Chi and Magic to fight, in which case a fireball spell may neither scale to Striking Strength or Durability nor to the strength of Chi blasts that the opponent fires. However, the strength of the fireball spell might still be scaleable to other magic, such as the strength of water spells.General requirements
- All abilities and powers draw from the same source
- By putting more of the energy into an power it can provide results of greater magnitude
Non Physical Energy System
A system where supernatural or other feats, that are not based on the characters' body strengths, do not scale to physical statistics, but still scale to all other applications of non-physical powers the character may have. That means if such a character for instance demonstrates a Building level fireball spell, they would not automatically be assumed to have Building level Striking Strength or Durability. However, if they have other spells, like for example water blades, they would be assumed to be able to output similar attack power with those spells.General requirements
- Meet the requirements for the Limited Energy System
- An increase in power should correspond to an proportional increase in the users powers and abilities
- The inverse works as well as an decrease does the same in powers and abilities=
Universal Energy System (Alternatively known as Universal Power System or Connective Energy Systems)
systems in which a feat, whether it is one of physical statistics (Striking Strength or Durability) or of supernatural powers (e.g. energy beams), would also scale to all other statistics. That means if such a character for instance demonstrates a Building level fireball spell, they would be assumed to have at least Building level Striking Strength, Attack Potency and Durability. If they have other spells, like for example water blades, they would be assumed to be able to output similar attack power with those spells.General requirements
- Meet the requirements for the non physical energy system
- Should be a case that the physicals scale directly to the abilities potency
What categorization we should use for Curse Energy
Alright with the explanations and requirements for Universal Energy System and its subcategories, How classification does Curse Energy fall into?Limited Energy System
Curse Energy has a pretty good track record of fitting in for Limited Energy Systems as for starters, everything in JJK is related to CE outside of outliers like Heavenly Restriction. Every supernatural ability has been connected to Curse Energy as the source for it.- Curse Techniques are charged and used via Curse Energy (Think of the comparison between CE and electricity for an example)
- Reversals use Positive Energy which can infer greater power (Red, antigravity, etc)
- Positive Energy is Cursed Energy multiplying with itself due to it being negative energy (Negative x Negative = Positive)
Additionally Characters in the series have shown to control the size and potency in cases for their CT's
- Jogo can manifest his ct in different manners ranging from flames to rays to even small openings akin to volcanoes etc. (Anime shows this way more as well with fire hands and all)
- Hanami is shown capable of changing the size and power of their CT which ranges from small wooden balls to giant roots
- Kenjaku/Geto can make Uzumakis vary in power depending on the type of curses they use
- Curse Energy can also reinforce the body to be stronger and even mitigate damage at times via adding more curse energy to a part to defend
In summary, Characters who can manipulate curse energy not only have their powers and abilities draw from the same source (Curse Energy), but also that it can convert to other sources as well (Positive Energy for ex) and even the size/potency in some Cursed Techniques which should make it applicable for Limited Energy System.
Non Physical Energy System
Now for the categorization of Non Physical Energy System Jujutsu Kaisen does fit the bill as well and has shown that when certain circumstances or effects are made, CT’s can be enhanced in potency or decreased in potency as well. Some cases for increasing include- Binding vows like revealing ones hand, Overtime, Todo’s binding vow on boogie woogie, etc has shown the result of gaining a massive boost in either Curse Energy output for an attack or has drastically improved the potency of an ability based on a restriction or condition
- When Sukuna possesses Megumi’s body the ten shadows has grown massively in power ranging from Mahoraga being able to fight to even Shikigami like Nue to be massively greater in size then when Megumi used the ten shadows
- In general a better user for a CT will show better results with greater output than a worse user (Megumi w Sukuna, Mai w Yorozu, Kamo w Choso and Hana with Yuta)
- Another Binding Vow, Mei-Mei’s allow her to have a crow with massively greater power through bird kamikaze
- Hakari gaining a boost in stats when he hits jackpot alongside the greatest RCT in the verse
- Reversals such as Red and Gravity Ct from Kenjaku shown to be an increase in power or potency due to positive energy that gives it more power
- Extension moves of CT’s like Mahito’s body repel have a minimal amount to be used however the more something is used (transfigured bodies/souls) the greater in size and output it can have.
- CT’s like blood manip can vary in output and speed when compressed with greater compression equaling greater levels
- Signs, Chants, etc can boost the output and power of a move/CT
- Maximum’s are also considered a way to increase output of a CT alongside stack’s
- Sukuna's slashes and overall power weaken throughout the shinjiku raid as he's getting more damaged by things such as soul dismantles. This is also shown within his regeneration with Reverse Cursed Technique as it weakens after attacks such as a backstab by Maki's soul split katana.
- The authors statement on Naobito’s projection becomes weaker as it states "when he had his right arm" after he lost his right arm from Jogo which likely weakened his CT
- Output of CT’s and their moves can be weakened when limbs are lost (Angel, Yuki, etc)
- Sukuna stating that his output is weakening due to Megumi trying to hold him back
- Binding Vows like Nanami’s overtime that does the inverse, restraining Nanami’s output based on the rules of the vow
- Abilities like confiscation that take away CT’s for ex can weaken a sorcerers control over CE which would include CE output and physicals being weakened
Universal Energy System
So I won't be going too deep into this section as there actually not much supporting this at all however there is one exception to the rule. Ryu Ishigori is an exception in the world of Jujutsu due to a statement that supports this.It implies that Ryu’s physicals always scale to his ap and have the same ap as his CT so he fits in the category of UES.
That is all
Summary/TLDR
To SummarizeCurse Energy checks the marks for a LES via having all abilities come from a single source of energy, the ability to invest more in a CT and make it have greater power. Fit into a NPES via many cases of characters being able to greatly improve their CT’s overall power through binding vows or in the cases of Megumi, show better power in the ten shadows via a user with greater CE like Sukuna and the inverse that shows throughout the story it can fit into a NPES. Thus bringing to the conclusion that Curse Energy as a whole should fit in the category of a NPES
While there isn't much at all that supports the idea of a UES, Ryu Ishigori has shown completely that he fits in the criteria and thus concluding that while Curse Energy is a NPES system, Ryu Ishigori himself should be the exception as he works under the rules of a UES.
Anyway with all that done, thank you for coming to my thread
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