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The Son of Sparda VS The New Hope (Dante VS Luke)
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What?
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I'm tilted beyond belief and tried to make a joke. Dante's DT is inherently otherworldly but Luke lives in a place with several different races, the point is, if Luke would go for the kill regardless if their opponent are known to be evil or not
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I understand the bullets and residual fragments, but...
Is Luke's accuracy from being guided by the Force simply too high? Like, he hit a target considered impossible to hit even with the help of sic-fi computers. I don't think it's too difficult for him to block at an angle unaffected by the residue, especially when the guy has precognition and being guided by the Force allows him to see things in slow motion.
EDIT: So I don't think it would be that worrying.
Regarding Luke's powers with this key, I don't think he has any more "active" powers, like telekinesis, Force Barrier, etc.
I still have to create a key for sensitives with no or little training like Luke and the Knights of Ren.
Is Luke's accuracy from being guided by the Force simply too high? Like, he hit a target considered impossible to hit even with the help of sic-fi computers. I don't think it's too difficult for him to block at an angle unaffected by the residue, especially when the guy has precognition and being guided by the Force allows him to see things in slow motion.
EDIT: So I don't think it would be that worrying.
Regarding Luke's powers with this key, I don't think he has any more "active" powers, like telekinesis, Force Barrier, etc.
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If Luke wouldn't try to kill Dante then the initial clash wouldn't exactly kill Dante, I don't know about Star Wars but I figure Luke would probably be aware he would clean Dante in half so he wouldn't go for a killing swing in the first clash, assuming he wouldn't go for the kill
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Force Amplification is different from Force Barrier.
Force Barrier is an active ability that forms a bubble around the user. Amplification allows the Force to flow through the user and enhance them physically (increasing jumping power, for example).
I'll write a more detailed CRT about this later.
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I also saw talk about the Force Edge, but wouldn't that be worse for Dante? Using energy attacks.
Because, like... the lightsaber absorbs/reflects energy.
Because, like... the lightsaber absorbs/reflects energy.
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He would hardly use it so it is barely a thing. There is also the fact the match hasn't been updated by the OP yet- oh nvmd he did '-'
Meu Jovem, tell me how likely it is for Luke to go for the kill in character if you don't mind
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He doesn't seem to have any hesitation about killing, considering the Stormtroopers.
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Those are guys working for the Empire, I mean like, a random person that is not affiliated with any evil party Luke's aware of
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That doesn't exactly change the nature of my question '-'. If Luke sees someone who is willing to harm him, but is not affiliated with exactly evil parties, would he still go for the kill? Someone mentioned a Wampa, why didn't Luke kill that individual?
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The Wampa was immediately incapacitated, and Luke was more concerned with getting out of there than killing the monster.
In the SBA scenario, Dante is constantly trying to kill Luke. Even if Luke goes for incapacitation (cutting off his arms), he quickly realizes that Dante can regenerate them. Inflicting more fatal damage will be the only option, considering that in SBA, Luke knows that losing the battle will have dire consequences.
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Severe harm, not exactly death, Dante's demeanor wouldn't scream muderous monster
Well he can't Regenerate his arms '-'
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Just an exaggerated way of speaking. But still the mentality that defeat will cause terrible consequences.
A, I thought Low-Mid was from his normal regeneration.
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I'm asking mainly for the first strike, I'll go on about what I think, but I just wanted to know if Luke would try to kill Dante in the first swing
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Ok, so now that both are in character and I think I've got a grasp of what would try to do in the first strike, I think it is more balanced now
I'll repeat myself for what Dante will initially think: He knows Luke's an enemy and if he loses there'll be consequences... but that doesn't change the fact Luke's still a human and Dante wouldn't go for the kill and would want to play with Luke regardless, since SBA doesn't say they know how strong the other character is, there is no reason to believe Luke is stronger then any of the mercenaries in Episode 2, for example.
Once again, Dante sees Luke has a neat sword and he'll go for a sword clash, no questions asked. Thing is, the Force Edge would be completely destroyed in the first strike, and I would like to believe would know that about the Lightsabers, as Force Edge shouldn't be considered anything above any of the metals they have in the Star Wars universe in his conception.
After that, there is no way Dante will continue to not take that fight seriously, it would be very apparent Luke is not a normal human and his weapon is even more inhumane then anything he has seen. I do believe Dante would be able to easily dodge Luke's strikes since he is not trained with his saber and he has done similar with much more enemies surrounding him, so it wouldn't be a first for Dante either.
Disarming Luke from his Saber shouldn't be too hard either. He wouldn't use the weapon, once again, Luke's still human and, while enemies, not exactly someone that would need to be killed, so Dante wouldn't try using a weapon so strong to kill Luke. Dante can also maintain his grip on the weapon since Luke's TK has no vallue and Dante has a very big LS.
In my opinion, the fight would be about CQC, maybe some use of his pistols but he wouldn't target Luke with them. Luke has the AP advantage, Dante has the Skill advantage here, Dante also likes to move around a lot, he jumps, grabs momentum on walls, etc. Plus, while he can still get knocked out, Dante's High-Low's regen should be able to keep him going for some of the minor wounds he receives in his body.
I would give it to Dante in this case
I'll repeat myself for what Dante will initially think: He knows Luke's an enemy and if he loses there'll be consequences... but that doesn't change the fact Luke's still a human and Dante wouldn't go for the kill and would want to play with Luke regardless, since SBA doesn't say they know how strong the other character is, there is no reason to believe Luke is stronger then any of the mercenaries in Episode 2, for example.
Once again, Dante sees Luke has a neat sword and he'll go for a sword clash, no questions asked. Thing is, the Force Edge would be completely destroyed in the first strike, and I would like to believe would know that about the Lightsabers, as Force Edge shouldn't be considered anything above any of the metals they have in the Star Wars universe in his conception.
After that, there is no way Dante will continue to not take that fight seriously, it would be very apparent Luke is not a normal human and his weapon is even more inhumane then anything he has seen. I do believe Dante would be able to easily dodge Luke's strikes since he is not trained with his saber and he has done similar with much more enemies surrounding him, so it wouldn't be a first for Dante either.
Disarming Luke from his Saber shouldn't be too hard either. He wouldn't use the weapon, once again, Luke's still human and, while enemies, not exactly someone that would need to be killed, so Dante wouldn't try using a weapon so strong to kill Luke. Dante can also maintain his grip on the weapon since Luke's TK has no vallue and Dante has a very big LS.
In my opinion, the fight would be about CQC, maybe some use of his pistols but he wouldn't target Luke with them. Luke has the AP advantage, Dante has the Skill advantage here, Dante also likes to move around a lot, he jumps, grabs momentum on walls, etc. Plus, while he can still get knocked out, Dante's High-Low's regen should be able to keep him going for some of the minor wounds he receives in his body.
I would give it to Dante in this case
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Reading Luke's profile, that abilities section isn't very clear about which keys have which abilities.
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I was under that impression, apparently this is like, from the 1st movie or so, no training in Lightsaber and Force stuff that amps his durability
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Yeah, I believe so, it's just that profile, if we go by it exactly as it is, basically says that New Hope Luke already has all the stuff from later. According to the profile, Luke could win this via the mind trick he won't have for at least another few years.
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I don't know about that. Most pages have abilities divided between keys, as far as I've noticed. The reason this profile is both whacky and unfixable is because it's locked.
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Except for the "newer" profiles (Sequel Trilogy), most profiles have always had this composite P&A (Obi-Wan, Anakin, Darth Maul, etc.).
It was even worse when Legends was on the same page as canon and they shared the same P&A.
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I would have figured Rey's whole profile could just have Plot Armor listed as its ability. It practically reaches the realm of Plot Manipulation and Reality Warping.
Oh, I didn't realise you meant most Star Wars profiles. You said most profiles, which made it sound like you meant most profiles in general.
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Finally, a decent take.
Dante adds a lightsaber to as a fine addition to his... collection FRA. Luke being rather not skilled at this key and point in time prevents any TK shenanigans.
Even if Luke didn't go for the kill, it touching Dante anywhere would be lethal anyway as well since he has no resistances to it for some time. He most definitely would take the fight serious and just incap Luke.
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