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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

So does anyone have matchups in mind that could work? I've been looking through 3-B and there's nothing.

Also, Ichigo's matchups should be removed now, since with the AP changes he gets one shot by Nikador Avocado and Yanqing.
 
So does anyone have matchups in mind that could work? I've been looking through 3-B and there's nothing.

Also, Ichigo's matchups should be removed now, since with the AP changes he gets one shot by Nikador Avocado and Yanqing.
Can we keep Yanqing

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1)All right, it is correct that dang heng base can beat beasts capable of devouring stars in one blow.

But there's a problem there, is that something he does using all of his power or just part of it? I mean, is it something casual or with a lot of effort.

In any case, did dang heng even make an effort while in Jarilo VI?, I don't recall anything to suggest such a thing, save, maybe for the final fight against Cocolia.

2)If the problem is hoyoverse (I doubt it), But still we all agree on what is not consistent that Svarog is Star level, we should:

A) Delete the profile, and only leave the profiles we create if they are coherent as Star level.

B) Study the case thoroughly, and determine a more appropriate level for the character.

Otherwise, we would simply be misinforming, which is not correct.
Dan Heng is just simply too goated perhaps
 
Lets see In guide paradox mission, It is stated that many enemies of the antimatter legion can destroy a planet.

In English it says it was only one, but in Spanish, Portuguese, and in the RAW it says it was many, basically the regular enemies that you find in the herta space station.

酷淡的蓝色闪烁,怪物残影漫天疾行,沉默巨大的星球开始缓慢裂解。

This should be useful to know what Tier the Jarilo VI robots have.
Problem is, the word "planet" is refered to a star. Take an example when Zephyro destroyed planets but they were stated as stars. Yeah.
 
Problem is, the word "planet" is refered to a star. Take an example when Zephyro destroyed planets but they were stated as stars. Yeah.
Not in this context, they are talking about the destruction of a planet.

Translations are not just a "what is the equivalent of this word" thing, context is important, as well as language evolution.

In any case, Even if we were to fall into that logic, they would still not be Star level, It is a feat done by many members of the antimatter legion not just one or two.
 
In addition, in the Fate event there is a shared feat which is x10 times Penacony's, one of the participants is clara/Svarog.

That would serve to give you something, but of course, it's still not Star.
 
Not in this context, they are talking about the destruction of a planet.

Translations are not just a "what is the equivalent of this word" thing, context is important, as well as language evolution.

In any case, Even if we were to fall into that logic, they would still not be Star level, It is a feat done by many members of the antimatter legion not just one or two.
All planets are star sized, Glamoth were visually shown to be a planet but it's actually a star. Nothing remotely in HSR implies the existence of planets if all of them are considered, refered to by multiple instances to be stars.
 
All planets are star sized, Glamoth were visually shown to be a planet but it's actually a star. Nothing remotely in HSR implies the existence of planets if all of them are considered, refered to by multiple instances to be stars.
I don't even know how to respond to this.

The synogram of Planet and star is the same, it is how it is interpreted, it depends on the context and how the object in question is presented.

Is there any explicit mention of Glamoth or any other planet having Star size?
 
I don't even know how to respond to this.

The synogram of Planet and star is the same, it is how it is interpreted, it depends on the context and how the object in question is presented.

Is there any explicit mention of Glamoth or any other planet having Star size?
They're literally mentioned to be a star..
 
So you guys were busy. I do have a question about one of Acheron's scans justifying her 1-B status.

Why show her ultimate animations which is dubious in terms of validity? Instead just show the Acheron literally destroying a manifestation of IX in her Myriad Celestia as well as erasing Takamagahara and Izumo from history to where Remembrance can't remember.

I think is much better justification

 
So you guys were busy. I do have a question about one of Acheron's scans justifying her 1-B status.

Why show her ultimate animations which is dubious in terms of validity? Instead just show the Acheron literally destroying a manifestation of IX in her Myriad Celestia as well as erasing Takamagahara and Izumo from history to where Remembrance can't remember.

I think is much better justification


We can use both if you want. The ultimate animation was just supporting evidence.
 
Now we need the rest of the Emanators to scale to 1-B physically at their peak full power and not just AP
That's very unlikely. Phainon only got there by obtaining innumerable coreflames, giving in to pure hatred, and burning through his existence. Acheron can only do so because of the nature of Self-Annihilators and IX. I don't see anyone else scaling this high unless the Throne Level Emanators isn't bs. However, if that term is just contextualization, then it changes nothing. It'd have to be a different status only unique to specific individuals
 
That's very unlikely. Phainon only got there by obtaining innumerable coreflames, giving in to pure hatred, and burning through his existence. Acheron can only do so because of the nature of Self-Annihilators and IX. I don't see anyone else scaling this high unless the Throne Level Emanators isn't bs. However, if that term is just contextualization, then it changes nothing. It'd have to be a different status only unique to specific individuals
Thoughts on this reasoning

Well she was destroyed after an long fight too, but she could at least downscale to Lightning Lord.

Remember that Ignamar which is an high class heliobus like Phantylia fought against Lightning Lord and was capable of evenly match him in a hard fight until Lightning Lord emerged victorious and it took the combined attack from Dan Heng to sever the link of Phantylia and then Lightning Lord pierced through her while her guard was off but she herself could be 1-B by scaling to Ignamar as both are in the high class of heliobus. Also wasn't Dominicus weakened due to the attack from Acheron which is also 1-B?, I don't think he is that weak since Black Swan mentioned that Lightning Lord and Dominicus powers collided and Acheron also affirmed that the only way to stop him is to have an power comparable to him.
 
Thoughts on this reasoning
Well Acheron was specifically referring to destroying Ena's dream not necessarily directly fighting otherwise the Astral Express Crew would be Emanator level. Heck even when they fought Dominicus they needed a comparable Tuner to Sunday like Robin to weaken them further.

So while I think their powers (hax) are comparable I don't think you can conclusively scale Acheron, Lightning Lord, Phantiliya, or Dominicus to 1-B physically.
 
Well Acheron was specifically referring to destroying Ena's dream not necessarily directly fighting otherwise the Astral Express Crew would be Emanator level. Heck even when they fought Dominicus they needed a comparable Tuner to Sunday like Robin to weaken them further.

So while I think their powers (hax) are comparable I don't think you can conclusively scale Acheron, Lightning Lord, Phantiliya, or Dominicus to 1-B physically.
I mean a year ago when everyone gets High 1-C, Acheron actually is the most consistent one so in this case it should be fine for her tbh
 
Well Acheron was specifically referring to destroying Ena's dream not necessarily directly fighting otherwise the Astral Express Crew would be Emanator level. Heck even when they fought Dominicus they needed a comparable Tuner to Sunday like Robin to weaken them further.

So while I think their powers (hax) are comparable I don't think you can conclusively scale Acheron, Lightning Lord, Phantiliya, or Dominicus to 1-B physically.
back in july 2024 all emanators were scaled to 1-C via their path powers. Acheron was the only Emanator to scale to 1-C fully physically since she was the most consistent

 
By the way, I'm not sure if it's already been posted before, but feel free to share your thoughts in this thread:
 
back in july 2024 all emanators were scaled to 1-C via their path powers. Acheron was the only Emanator to scale to 1-C fully physically since she was the most consistent

Yes but the only reason she scales to 1-B is because of her ability to unreservedly drawn upon the power of the Path of Nihility. Not necessarily because of anyone she has fought directly
 
Changed fight

also another one
 
1-Bs bcs most of it is Incon and Kevin/Kiana/Otto win due to having enough hax and its layered so they win the rest is incon or passive beats passive (which is genuenly impossible to argue)
Wouldn't Acheron cut Otto connection? I agree with Kiana, idk with Kevin
 
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