Anos vs Monika (DDLC)

[StrymULTRA]

Yeah I'm actually thinking about this.

TBF NEP standards on this wiki are stinky and inconsistent so it all depends on what the staff says about that lol.

 

[Shar122]

Sounds like a classic mismatch

Yeah true.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Me when I have layered NEP Nature 2 but my opponent just nukes the universe's space-time (I still have history as fundamental aspect):

 

[Enter_Bluey]

I suppose the reason is that it exists in a deeper state than what the opponent has shown to interact with so it's like it doesn't exist to them.

Something I can both see, and also not due to the "still has the aspect lmao" thing, which does make it really confusing. Better to ask a staff here.

I guess you can see it this way yeah. Otherwise any layers of the nep would be completely useless (although nonduality already kinda became like this too)

As for this site, I think they still care about the aspect a lot so it may just be os.remove("characters/anos.chr") or however it goes

 

[Robo432343]

if anos gets layered hax will it change things

 

[Shar122]

if anos gets layered hax will it change things

No not really, since plot hax exist.

 

[Tatsumi504]

It's 2025 and everyone still treating plot like the be all end all. Plot Manipulation is limited to what it has been shown to do and is not inherently superior to other powers like CM, Law, Fate etc.

The plot aspect is the only thing Monika can affect. Anos concept still remains and while he may not be able to recover from plot erasure, the rest of his aspects still remain. In the same way his NEP cannot defend against things relating to plot manipulation, her plot manipulation doesn't stop him from existing as a concept and regenerating the aspects she cannot affect. Anos can survive with only his concept as that's the only thing necessary for him to exist and can regenerate his body from that alone. If a character can act as a soul alone, destroying their concept doesn't stop the soul from acting neither does destroying the soul stop the concept from remaining so the same applies here.

This match is a stomp in his favor for the following reasons;

1. Passives: Fear, Sleep & Death Manipulation; Even being Kilometers away from Anos, his magic power will fear hax her, put her to sleep and should he please, cause her to die.
2. Venuzdonor: Even without starting with it, the sword is still in play. When incapped by Graham, Delsgade arrived on it's own and Venuzdonor acted on it's own to destroy Aganzon. Venuzdona doesn't even need to destroy her. Like it did with Jerga, it can just make Monika fall victim to her own powers and she erases herself if that's her first move.
3. MEoCD: This eyes power lies in contradiction. It doesn't have to interact with the plot to stop Monika's powers from working. Against Equis it didn't affect fate but destroyed the reason of Beld Rase Femblem. All it has to do is interact with Monika herself, her ability to nullify it and prevent her from using her powers. It is also impossible to be faster than these eyes as even that was converted into power for it. Thought based plot manipulation vs Ability that says "f*ck you to immeasurable speed passives".
4. Abstract Existence: As I mentioned above, the rest of his aspects are safe and he can act with those alone. There's also the fact he can live on as possibilities by embodying the possibility that he hasn't been destroyed via Veneziara. When he was incapped by Andeluc's power regression, his power of destruction remained and should that happen here, she now has to deal with passive EE, corrosion inducement. Even in the worst case scenario, it will be mutual destruction as Anos and Graham's sources will nuke the entire plane of reality beyond what she can come back from so while she survives with only her plot aspect she's effectively incapped meanwhile Anos is free to regenerate any of his other aspects barring plot.

 

[Fixxed]

Well... why plot manip can even interact with nonexistence state by default?

Even if someone doesnt lack of plot in his NEP nature, plot must have some feats for interact with that. Like we cannot say a fate, concept, or causality can affect some nonexistence state by default because it was NLF, so as plot cannot by default affect something that doesnt exist. Someone can say "just change the narrative and make the NEP nature become exist", but we can say the same for fate manip "just change his fate so he become exist" or concept manip "just create a new concept that allow NEP nature to become exist", or why doesnt we just say "this charater have plot manip so he must win against 5D character even if his entire verse just 4D, he can just change the plot so the 5D being become 3D"

By default plot doesnt cover a nonexistence state in its area of influence, this is not about the NEP is lacking plot or not but about are that plot have proof for affecting the nonexistence state

Soo monika cannot reach arnos' infinitely layer of NEP 2 by plot alone, her plot manip must have some proof about reaching NEP 2 with ad infinitum degree

 

[StrymULTRA]

A lot of the above comment shows complete ignorance about DDLC.

I don't care about the debate, but I will reply to dumb shit.

The plot aspect is the only thing Monika can affect.

File Manipulation in DDLC is an umbrella term which encompasses Data, CM 1, Info 2 and Plot at once actually. Meaning that all of these gets manipulated at once

Anos can survive with only his concept as that's the only thing necessary for him to exist and can regenerate his body from that alone. If a character can act as a soul alone, destroying their concept doesn't stop the soul from acting neither does destroying the soul stop the concept from remaining so the same applies here.

Anos when Monika changes the script so the guy makes the Fortnite Dance in loop for a whole week straight:

1. Passives: Fear, Sleep & Death Manipulation; Even being Kilometers away from Anos, his magic power will fear hax her, put her to sleep and should he please, cause her to die.

This does not work as Monika's very existence is unbound from the files, and these include shit like Mind, Personality, Emotions and Memories (as she used the File Manipulation to change that stuff on other characters, after all). Plus, Monika has Supernatural Willpower which allowed her to overcome the truth of her world being fake, which drove Sayori insane instead the moment she gained said awareness (backed from the game's creators saying that the knowledge alters the very values and morals of the target, mind you).

1. Venuzdonor: Even without starting with it, the sword is still in play. When incapped by Graham, Delsgade arrived on it's own and Venuzdonor acted on it's own to destroy Aganzon. Venuzdona doesn't even need to destroy her. Like it did with Jerga, it can just make Monika fall victim to her own powers and she erases herself if that's her first move.

Monika cannot erase herself because of the entire NEP stick. Plus she literally does delete herself in Act 4 if you attempt to re-put her .chr file in the game, all while remanining in her NEP state.

This eyes power lies in contradiction. It doesn't have to interact with the plot to stop Monika's powers from working.

NLF.

Against Equis it didn't affect fate but destroyed the reason of Beld Rase Femblem. All it has to do is interact with Monika herself, her ability to nullify it and prevent her from using her powers. It is also impossible to be faster than these eyes as even that was converted into power for it. Thought based plot manipulation vs Ability that says "f*ck you to immeasurable speed passives".

That stuff literally still happens within the plot though. You're basically saying that a power can overcome its literal metafictional foundation which is based on just because it looks badass lol.

he now has to deal with passive EE, corrosion inducement.

Monika literally cannot care less about what happens to her physical body or character file tho.

even in the worst case scenario, it will be mutual destruction as Anos and Graham's sources will nuke the entire plane of reality beyond what she can come back from so while she survives with only her plot aspect she's effectively incapped meanwhile Anos is free to regenerate any of his other aspects barring plot.

My brother in Christ Monika's NEP covers all aspects. She cannot be incapped because her NEP state lacks all of that and she's also BDE while in said form, meaning that simply nuking reality won't stop her, hell, she literally wrote a letter to the Player after deleting all the files making up the game at the end of Act 4.

 

[Robo432343]

Anos's NEP does not cover plot

 

[StrymULTRA]

Soo monika cannot reach arnos' infinitely layer of NEP 2 by plot alone, her plot manip must have some proof about reaching NEP 2 with ad infinitum degree

Who said she needs to do that? She can just alter Anos' actions as these are still part of the script, and he has no feats about being unbound from that rolfmao.

 

[Fixxed]

Who said she needs to do that? She can just alter Anos' actions as these are still part of the script, and he has no feats about being unbound from that rolfmao.

Bruh that dude can think and use his power with only his root/source, and you must bypass those ad infinitum layer of NEP to reach his root. All he must do is just to make decision for erase his own body and attack her from somewhere she cannot even comprehend. And for MGF character their body is basically a trash, their true existence are their root

An excellent magician can keep their memories in their source, which is the fundamental concept of existence that exists deeper than the body, soul and mind, and even if the physical body perishes, as long as the source is intact, they can be revived. In other words, they can "think" and utilise powers with only their source

 

[StrymULTRA]

Bruh that dude can think and use his power with only his root/source, and you must bypass those ad infinitum layer of NEP to reach his root. All he must do is just to make decision for erase his own body and attack her from somewhere she cannot even comprehend. And for MGF character their body is basically a trash, their true existence are their root

And what stops Monika from stopping him to reach that decision, though? She literally can lobotomize people through plot as I said.

It's not even a matter of interacting with the source, it's stopping people from using it in the 1st place.

 

[Fixxed]

And what stops Monika from stopping him to reach that decision, though? She literally can lobotomize people through plot as I said.

It's not even a matter of interacting with the source, it's stopping people from using it in the 1st place.

Because that decision is from the root it self

Bruh stoping it mean you must reach the root it self. And like i say for MGF character their body is basically meaningless, they can just let go their own body and attack or think from their root alone

 

[StrymULTRA]

Because that decision is from the root it self

No wtf. Why would it be.

Is the decision to trigger a bomb from the bomb itself?

like i say for MGF character their body is basically meaningless, they can just let go their own body and attack or think from their root alone

But... aren't Anos' actions still part of a narrative while he's still in said body though?

 

[Catbowtie]

If someone wants to insist this isn't a Stomp then I'm voting Monika via making it impossible for Anos to win

 

[Fixxed]

No wtf. Why would it be.

Is the decision to trigger a bomb from the bomb itself?

But... aren't Anos' actions still part of a narrative while he's still in said body though?

i dont understand what you mean, but in maou context the root can think and attack or act by it own without it own body soul or spirit, so yes it from it self to do whatever to it self

He can act by his own root alone, just let go his body and done. It was just like how the soul of death person doesnt feel anything that someone do to his body, so as the root, the body soul and spirit is basically meaningless

 

[StrymULTRA]

i dont understand what you mean, but in maou context the root can think and attack or act by it own without it own body soul or spirit, so yes it from it self to do whatever to it self

He can act by his own root alone, just let go his body and done. It was just like how the soul of death person doesnt feel anything that someone do to his body, so as the root, the body soul and spirit is basically meaningless

What I mean is that if the decisions and the narrative come entirely from the root regardless of the physical body.

Because, yes, Root has layered NEP and all that beans, but I do not see it having History NEP unlike Monika, implying that all of Anos' decisions are still part of a narrative that Monika can control at will, given they're still encoded as a part of a history after all.

I do not think that Anos has a "real body" residing in said Root which he can use to control the physical one, either. I interpret it more as him being able to escape in that if shit goes bad instead, which is not the same.

 

[Fixxed]

What I mean is that if the decisions and the narrative come entirely from the root regardless of the physical body.

Because, yes, Root has layered NEP and all that beans, but I do not see it having History NEP unlike Monika, implying that all of Anos' decisions are still part of a narrative that Monika can control at will, given they're still encoded as a part of a history after all.

I do not think that Anos has a "real body" residing in said Root which he can use to control the physical one, either. I interpret it more as him being able to escape in that if shit goes bad instead, which is not the same.

No, that decision is from the root. Bruh the root CAN THINK and ACT by it own, it can by it own make a decision. Well it was the same problem with what i say above about plot, even if it not lack of history are the history can reach the NEP nature by default. She cannot control that, because she must bypass those layer to reach that

Well you intepret that like what you want. But in maou context the body basically meaningless

 

[Pluto321]

i think monika wins based on points made by @StrymULTRA

 

[StrymULTRA]

No, that decision is from the root. Bruh the root CAN THINK and ACT by it own, it can by it own make a decision. Well it was the same problem with what i say above about plot, even if it not lack of history are the history can reach the NEP nature by default. She cannot control that, because she must bypass those layer to reach that

Well you intepret that like what you want. But in maou context the body basically meaningless

I do not think that layers help much if its actions are still part of an overall story.

Just like having layered resistances to soul hax will never make you truly immune to it unlike a character who just lacks a soul instead.

 

[Tatsumi504]

A lot of the above comment shows complete ignorance about DDLC.

I don't care about the debate, but I will reply to dumb shit.

File Manipulation in DDLC is an umbrella term which encompasses Data, CM 1, Info 2 and Plot at once actually. Meaning that all of these gets manipulated at once

The aspects that are included under the ad-infinitum NEP?

Anos when Monika changes the script so the guy makes the Fortnite Dance in loop for a whole week straight:

Plot Manipulation is limited to what it has been shown to do. You're trying to be funny, I'm being serious. Her first move decides what her fate is going to be.

This does not work as Monika's very existence is unbound from the files, and these include shit like Mind, Personality, Emotions and Memories (as she used the File Manipulation to change that stuff on other characters, after all). Plus, Monika has Supernatural Willpower which allowed her to overcome the truth of her world being fake, which drove Sayori insane instead the moment she gained said awareness (backed from the game's creators saying that the knowledge alters the very values and morals of the target, mind you).

And all of that unfortunately has nothing to do with resisting the passives I mentioned. Anos doesn't need to affect the files to affect her mind or emotions and I didn't mention any hax pertaining to these things.

Monika cannot erase herself because of the entire NEP stick. Plus she literally does delete herself in Act 4 if you attempt to re-put her .chr file in the game, all while remanining in her NEP state.

I meant initial plot erasure not NEP erasure

NLF.

Literally on the profile not to mention power nullification doesn't have to be defensive in nature only nullifying abilities trying to affect you. It can be offensive by stopping one from using their ability at all.

That stuff literally still happens within the plot though. You're basically saying that a power can overcome its literal metafictional foundation which is based on just because it looks badass lol.

We've stopped treating plot manipulation like that which was the first thing I said. Plot isn't inherently superior to any of these things.

PS: Verse equalization is the only thing that would allow a power like plot manipulation to work crossverse and last I checked, Misfit isn't reliant on a metafictional foundation neither is it a part of DDLC.

Monika literally cannot care less about what happens to her physical body or character file tho.

You are assuming only her physical body will be affected by these things.

My brother in Christ Monika's NEP covers all aspects. She cannot be incapped because her NEP state lacks all of that and she's also BDE while in said form, meaning that simply nuking reality won't stop her, hell, she literally wrote a letter to the Player after deleting all the files making up the game at the end of Act 4.

Non-combat applicable high-godly means she cannot come back. Anos destructive power includes NEP erasure too so the aspects he can affect will be erased millions of times over immediately. I see no BDE on the profile either anyway and incapacitation also involves being left in a state where you cannot do anything which is what she will be.

 

[StrymULTRA]

And all of that unfortunately has nothing to do with resisting the passives I mentioned. Anos doesn't need to affect the files to affect her mind or emotions and I didn't mention any hax pertaining to these things.

You mentioned fear, I mentioned ways on why it cannot work.

Plus you saying "it does not have to penetrate the files" is a strawman, I mentioned that altering the files to change those is useless against her, not that she has protection from these.

I meant initial plot erasure not NEP erasure

And Monika is immune to her own Plot Erasure...? So what.

We've stopped treating plot manipulation like that which was the first thing I said. Plot isn't inherently superior to any of these things.

PS: Verse equalization is the only thing that would allow a power like plot manipulation to work crossverse and last I checked, Misfit isn't reliant on a metafictional foundation neither is it a part of DDLC.

This is basically arguing that Misfit won't be affected from plot hax just because it does not have canonically one, which would make the existence of the ability pointless and self-defeating.

I do not think it really works because by using similar parameters, soul hax won't work in verses which don't show these (as souls aren't proven to exist irl either), and so on.

You are assuming only her physical body will be affected by these things.

Because it will.

Non-combat applicable high-godly means she cannot come back. Anos destructive power includes NEP erasure too so the aspects he can affect will be erased millions of times over immediately. I see no BDE on the profile either anyway and incapacitation also involves being left in a state where you cannot do anything which is what she will be.

Literally on the Optional Tab lol.

And no, she won't be incapped as such a state definitely never stopped her, HGR only applies to her existing file, not her "real" self.

 

[Phoenks]

Plot doesn't have to be superior for him to be affected by it. If he has no resistance to that aspect, then he's cooked all the same.

And not having the aspect mentioned in verse doesn't mean you're immune to it... That's some of the wildest NLF of all time.

You don't need verse equalization for the other verse to get plot haxxed lol what

 

[Tatsumi504]

You mentioned fear, I mentioned ways on why it cannot work.

Plus you saying "it does not have to penetrate the files" is a strawman, I mentioned that altering the files to change those is useless against her, not that she has protection from these.

A straw man in what way? You're trying to give her immunity based on being unbound by the files but my argument was never about affecting the files.

And Monika is immune to her own Plot Erasure...? So what.

Then say so

This is basically arguing that Misfit won't be affected from plot hax just because it does not have canonically one, which would make the existence of the ability pointless and self-defeating.

I was making an analogy, no need to dwell on that

I do not think it really works because by using similar parameters, soul hax won't work in verses which don't show these (as souls aren't proven to exist irl either), and so on.

Same as above

Because it will.

No, it affects the physical, concepts, laws, fate etc Anos raw destructive power will erode and destroy everything if not kept in check by him

Literally on the Optional Tab lol.

And it wasn't indicated was it? Btw you may not be aware but the repeated use of lol, lmao, roflmao can eventually tick someone off. Please stop

IAnd no, she won't be incapped as such a state definitely never stopped her, HGR only applies to her existing file, not her "real" self.

NEP is a state of nonexistent and you're trying to say she can act with just her plot aspect when her nonexistent mind, soul, concept and info has been erased? Even when her powers are thought based?

Plot doesn't have to be superior for him to be affected by it. If he has no resistance to that aspect, then he's cooked all the same.

She literally has no resistance to the things I mentioned either. Both have wincons but one is thought based and the other is faster than immeasurable speed and you all are being obnoxious because "ooh she has plot manipulation" and vetoing the fact she cannot affect the remaining aspects Anos actually requires to remain active.

And not having the aspect mentioned in verse doesn't mean you're immune to it... That's some of the wildest NLF of all time.

You don't need verse equalization for the other verse to get plot haxxed lol what

I can continue to engage with you when you are not blind to you're own hypocrisy. I was trying to make a point.

Fact remains monika can only affect the plot aspect, the rest of Anos be it soul, mind, concept are beyond what she can affect. Even in a NEP 2 state, Anos can permanently erase every aspect of her bar the plot, the onus is on you to show how she acts without her mind, soul, concept when they've been erased beyond even her own nonexistent state.

 

[DaReaperMan]

If the Anos supporters INSIST that he can win this... Monika FRA. Not much he can do in my mind about plothax.

 

[FoxySonicMaster108]

For me. Monika just has more convincing arguments for winning. She might even stomp.

 

[StrymULTRA]

A straw man in what way? You're trying to give her immunity based on being unbound by the files but my argument was never about affecting the files.

So what was your argument again? A giant "I say so"?

No, it affects the physical, concepts, laws, fate etc Anos raw destructive power will erode and destroy everything if not kept in check by him

"Everything" is vague asf, Monika's NEP form does not care of what you mentioned, too.

NEP is a state of nonexistent and you're trying to say she can act with just her plot aspect when her nonexistent mind, soul, concept and info has been erased? Even when her powers are thought based?

Yes. The whole basis of NEP is being able to still be active despite being nonexistent, basically being a paradox existence.

Monika also could literally use said powers in her NEP form in Act 4 against Sayori. Please, this is DDLC basic knowledge.

And it wasn't indicated was it?

Nah, it's you who couldn't bother to check the tabbers. Not my fault here.

She literally has no resistance to the things I mentioned either. Both have wincons but one is thought based and the other is faster than immeasurable speed and you all are being obnoxious because "ooh she has plot manipulation" and vetoing the fact she cannot affect the remaining aspects Anos actually requires to remain active.

If pointing out how everything Anos does is still part of a plot given that he's still a fictional character no matter what is obnoxious, so be it.

Fact remains monika can only affect the plot aspect, the rest of Anos be it soul, mind, concept are beyond what she can affect. Even in a NEP 2 state, Anos can permanently erase every aspect of her bar the plot, the onus is on you to show how she acts without her mind, soul, concept when they've been erased beyond even her own nonexistent state.

And... if you affect the plot, you affect the rest given how plot is fundamental. Plot determines your actions, ya know, not just your existence.

 

[Tatsumi504]

So what was your argument again? A giant "I say so"?

I really don't get your attitude. You're the one who said and I quote "This does not work as Monika's very existence is unbound from the files, and these include shit like Mind, Personality, Emotions and Memories (as she used the File Manipulation to change that stuff on other characters, after all)." Then for some reason you try to deny that this does not imply she is immune by saying and I quote "I mentioned that altering the files to change those is useless against her, not that she has protection from these."
You're claiming that the passives I've mentioned would have no effect because "unbound from files" and I've said nothing remotely similar to manipulating anything similar to files has to do with using these abilities. You've shown no resistance she has limited, unconventional or whatever yet are claiming the abilities won't work because you say so yet I'm the one with the giant "I say so"?

"Everything" is vague asf, Monika's NEP form does not care of what you mentioned, too.

Nonexistent Physiology refers to the ability to lack certain aspects of one's existence, to paradoxically 'exist,' yet lack certain identifiable traits of existence or exist outside of a particular scope of 'existence.'

Note: The aspects in which a character is not nonexistent in the common sense are what makes them into a 'living' character. As such, if a character with this power is reduced to a state in which they can't display any properties of something that exists (e.g. becomes unable to take any actions), they are effectively dead/erased.

Anos's destruction erases Aspects 1, 2, 3 & 4. The aspects in which a character is nonexistent is what makes them into a living character, without them they are effectively dead or erased. The only aspect Anos cannot affect is the plot. Without the spiritual, mental, conceptual and informational nonexistence, the onus is on you to prove how and why Monika can act because "plot" when she has nothing that can function even as a nonexistent mind. Bear in mind Anos NEP Erasure is type 2

Yes. The whole basis of NEP is being able to still be active despite being nonexistent, basically being a paradox existence.

You are trying to go against site standards

Monika also could literally use said powers in her NEP form in Act 4 against Sayori. Please, this is DDLC basic knowledge.

Yes because her aspects were in a nonexistent state. Prove how she can function without those nonexistent aspects

Nah, it's you who couldn't bother to check the tabbers. Not my fault here.

No, the OP has to note if optional stuff is allowed in the match. That is on Robo

If pointing out how everything Anos does is still part of a plot given that he's still a fictional character no matter what is obnoxious, so be it.

Site standards. Change it if you don't like it.

And... if you affect the plot, you affect the rest given how plot is fundamental. Plot determines your actions, ya know, not just your existence.

Change site standards if you do not like it not to mention you do not need to resist the cause of an ability to resist its effects. If you disagree take your contentions up with Bambu, Agnaa and DT

 

[Tatsumi504]

Plot manip rework
resisting cause vs just the effects

 

[Fixxed]

I do not think that layers help much if its actions are still part of an overall story.

Just like having layered resistances to soul hax will never make you truly immune to it unlike a character who just lacks a soul instead.

The action are from the nonexistence state, it help very much, unless you think plot by default encompasses nonexistence state

But we literally talking about NEP that clearly grant immunity here. If you want too affect his decision or his act, you must reach his source first, because it was the source that act and think

 

[Robo432343]

the plot manip rework thread does not limit Monikas plot hax because its already shown to be op

 

[StrymULTRA]

I really don't get your attitude. You're the one who said and I quote "This does not work as Monika's very existence is unbound from the files, and these include shit like Mind, Personality, Emotions and Memories (as she used the File Manipulation to change that stuff on other characters, after all)." Then for some reason you try to deny that this does not imply she is immune by saying and I quote "I mentioned that altering the files to change those is useless against her, not that she has protection from these."
You're claiming that the passives I've mentioned would have no effect because "unbound from files" and I've said nothing remotely similar to manipulating anything similar to files has to do with using these abilities. You've shown no resistance she has limited, unconventional or whatever yet are claiming the abilities won't work because you say so yet I'm the one with the giant "I say so"?

Pretty much, yes. You've yet to actually prove it'd work.

You are trying to go against site standards

Nonexistent Physiology refers to the ability to lack certain aspects of one's existence, to paradoxically 'exist,' yet lack certain identifiable traits of existence or exist outside of a particular scope of 'existence.' While true nonexistence in the philosophical sense is impossible to prove, lesser forms of the idea appear often in fiction.

???

No, the OP has to note if optional stuff is allowed in the match. That is on Robo

The thing is "Optional" because it's her NEP state, which can be achieved when she's deleted. They're not Optional in the meaning of Optional Equipment. You're seeing this with too much wiki-ism.

Though I can change the name in something else if it's problematic and causes dumbass semantic nitpicks like that lmfao.

Site standards. Change it if you don't like it.

Note: The aspects in which a character is not nonexistent in the common sense are what makes them into a 'living' character. As such, if a character with this power is reduced to a state in which they can't display any properties of something that exists (e.g. becomes unable to take any actions), they are effectively dead/erased. A consequence of that is that feats or special reasoning are required for a character with this ability to survive the complete erasure of their plane of existence, as one needs to confirm that they are able to still display some existent properties on a different plane of existence.

Anos is still "living" thanks to his Plot aspect, though.

The action are from the nonexistence state, it help very much, unless you think plot by default encompasses nonexistence state

Yeppers. Cuz he still as the Plot aspect no matter the layers rolfmao.

 

[Fixxed]

Yeppers. Cuz he still as the Plot aspect no matter the layers rolfmao.

Bruh you really want use a NLF case, her plot doesnt have proof about affect ad infinitum layers of NEP 2. How can he affect his root?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Bruh you really want use a NLF case, her plot doesnt have proof about affect ad infinitum layers of NEP 2. How can he affect his root?

Does he lack the plot aspect of existence?

 

[Fixxed]

Does he lack the plot aspect of existence?

Does her plot can affect infinitely layer of NEP 2?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Does her plot can affect infinitely layer of NEP 2?

You didn't answer ze question

 

[Fixxed]

You didn't answer ze question

I already explain it above bruh, why it was NLF, i will not write that again

 

[StrymULTRA]

Bruh you really want use a NLF case, her plot doesnt have proof about affect ad infinitum layers of NEP 2. How can he affect his root?

All of his aspects are Ad Infinitum EXCEPT the plot one.

Ever heard of Achilles' tendon?

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Monika plot hax on very monitor karnal excess solos MGK we can debate. Plot > misfits. so concept of misfits logical manipulationss get erased by Monika plot deny even on first thought. Thiis is not account Twitter accounts monikai who is reganarare hersself on the esxistence, she easily erase MGK and delet the concept of silver sea