Genshin Impact Discussion Thread

[Giannysmag]

 

[OmniScalator]

Every one will be in nod krai

The war mentioned by Ei in music event might get started in nod krai, although it will end after just 1 second with huge split innnod krai

 

[The_Tetromino_King]

bro wth is this

 

[MSahla]

You got it wrong, that timeline was made after little one used that machine to phlogistonize all of natlan and tehvat with it, because it was so powerful it took out everything leaving only a white (zephyro moment)

I mean thats literally my point? Wheres the wrong?

blud, we learnt that loong before PO came voyager came to visit teyvat and saw nibelung with its people, that proves that the entire talk abt PO creating the laws and concepts on teyvat happened after he conquered the teyvat for himself.

Yeah like.. Phanes came from beyond the stars, probably like beyond the Galaxy like how the Voyager found Teyvat and as its stated teyvat is on the edge of a spiral arm (galaxy).

 

[PedjaTarzan]

I mean thats literally my point? Wheres the wrong?

that outside the quest where little one turns teyvat in big white the teyvat before PO arrival just a normal planet where dragons lived

Yeah like.. Phanes came from beyond the stars, probably like beyond the Galaxy like how the Voyager found Teyvat and as its stated teyvat is on the edge of a spiral arm (galaxy).

So how tf do you find something without concept of time space life and death, if it didnt had concept of space and time it would not even exist
it would be 0D (11-C) or beyond reality itself (1-A)

 

[OmniScalator]

that outside the quest where little one turns teyvat in big white the teyvat before PO arrival just a normal planet where dragons lived

Tbh we can't say for sure, before sun and moon says, rivers mountains etc were made by PO

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Tbh we can't say for sure, before sun and moon says, rivers mountains etc were made by PO

i dont know, but as far as the story has revealed, teyvat was a planet as it was before PO came defeated sovereigns set the false sky and then ruled teyvat, im just saying that teyvat being place before concept of space and time life/death before
PO made them is stupid

 

[Voidnether]

Hey idk about y'all but people on Teyvat hunting down Kiana Kaslana is better than the Aeon war that's gonna happen in HSR

 

[MSahla]

that outside the quest where little one turns teyvat in big white the teyvat before PO arrival just a normal planet where dragons lived

It aint no just a normal planet, what kinda planet where theres no concept of time, life and death in it?
The Light Realm is very special than you think. It is possibly the realm where there is no Physical Form.
Theres still very few information about the Light Realm.

So how tf do you find something without concept of time space life and death, if it didnt had concept of space and time it would not even exist
it would be 0D (11-C) or beyond reality itself (1-A)

Literally Phanes and the Shades are resides on a higher reality than the Human Realm lol.
Phanes and The Shades reality > Humans Realities.

it's clear how they view the human world as merely a space for entertainment or something truly trivial.
Their presence has disrupted and destroyed that space. And lower realities cannot reach the existence of the gods, let alone reach them, they can't even challenge what the gods have determined.

Shades neither create nor destroy 4D reality, but are already in the realm of existential superiority.

Because humans/anyone from the mortal realm cannot attain the existence of the true gods unless they can obtain the truewill of a spirit essence that transcends the material world, allowing them to evolve existentially into transcendent beings like surtalogi or rhinedottir.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

It aint no just a normal planet, what kinda planet where theres no concept of time, life and death in it?
The Light Realm is very special than you think. It is possibly the realm where there is no Physical Form.
Theres still very few information about the Light Realm.

Literally Phanes and the Shades are resides on a higher reality than the Human Realm lol.
Phanes and The Shades reality > Humans Realities.

it's clear how they view the human world as merely a space for entertainment or something truly trivial.
Their presence has disrupted and destroyed that space. And lower realities cannot reach the existence of the gods, let alone reach them, they can't even challenge what the gods have determined.

Shades neither create nor destroy 4D reality, but are already in the realm of existential superiority.

Because humans/anyone from the mortal realm cannot attain the existence of the true gods unless they can obtain the truewill of a spirit essence that transcends the material world, allowing them to evolve existentially into transcendent beings like the surtalogi or rhinedottir.

im just asking you how can a planet without those concepts exist in s physical space and be accessed by voyager idc abt shades and shit being on a higher reality (they are not) dont try to explain shit that does not answer my question.
like ur literally taking texts for granted, entire no concept of this and that is world before PO came and made those concepts to rule teyvat

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Hey idk about y'all but people on Teyvat hunting down Kiana Kaslana is better than the Aeon war that's gonna happen in HSR

rage bait/10
Amphoreus storyline 3.5 onward will be something no human can comprehend on how good it will be ESPECIALLY the finale (3.7) where i HOPE welt does shit instead of aura farming

 

[MSahla]

im just asking you how can a planet without those concepts exist in s physical space and be accessed by voyager idc abt shades and shit being on a higher reality (they are not) dont try to explain shit that does not answer my question.
like ur literally taking texts for granted, entire no concept of this and that is world before PO came and made those concepts to rule teyvat

Idk? The Planet was a Light Realm before teyvat so its possibly like a different dimension.
This is a Fantasy buddy, everything can happen

abt shades and shit being on a higher reality (they are not)

They are.

 

[Voidnether]

rage bait/10
Amphoreus storyline 3.5 onward will be something no human can comprehend on how good it will be ESPECIALLY the finale (3.7) where i HOPE welt does shit instead of aura farming

As in the sheer horror, I mean what the hell could go wrong if it was about them trying to get the moon in Teyvat. Like, even if Kiana was actually on that moon for example: The worst thing they can get would be Honkai energy in which it's gonna wipe out Teyvat or something. Like even if you live in a civilization like Wuthering Waves or PGR, it's not even as bad because the strongest being there still regards humanity but HSR? It's going to be better ending yourself than whatever experiencing that is

 

[OmniScalator]

a higher reality (they are not)

Inquitos baptist drop item says about beings from higher reality so higher existence that even their shadows are more 3 Dimensional and colorful than people can comprehend

It was roughly that

Although I won't say we can link up shades with this description yet, but we can still leave that as a possibility

 

[Voidnether]

Precisely why one of the reason that HI3 is isolated, or that Teyvat is isolated are actually the best idea so they don't have to experience this happening to every other civilization that's not isolated anyway

 

[Voidnether]

Inquitos baptist drop item says about beings from higher reality so higher existence that even their shadows are more 3 Dimensional and colorful than people can comprehend

It was roughly that

Although I won't say we can link up shades with this description yet, but we can still leave that as a possibility

It is important to note that a non-physical realm being described as somehow "higher" than a physical world is not sufficient reasoning for this. See here and here for more information. And neither is a character being referred to as a "higher existence," as that can be used in far more mundane contexts as well (e.g. Humans can accurately be called "higher existences" than frogs).

Original text is in the tiering system footnotes, just scroll down to the end on the tiering system page

 

[OmniScalator]

Original text is in the tiering system footnotes, just scroll down to the end on the tiering system page

It was described not just as higher but having more 3D shadow than real world

 

[Voidnether]

It was described not just as higher but having more 3D shadow than real world

That still doesn't explain anything, HDE in its most obvious terminology is the Aeons from Honkai: Star Rail or Ishmael from Punishing: Gray Raven — Both of those characters, not only they need an avatar to descend to the physical world and even so: Those avatars must be described as projections of themselves

That's literally it, the entire point. And Surtalogi's higher-dimensional case? This is the same thing as higher-dimensional Reiatsu in Bleach, you can't make this up

 

[Voidnether]

Genuinely pushing the HDE agenda when it's not the equivalent of HSR or PGR in which both are literally gacha games too and then HI3's HDE with all of the Herrschers itself being mere projections of the Cocoon of Finality (Since it's only CoF that is real).
You guys serious?

100%, it would get rejected if it's not as blatant as the three verses that I've mentioned. You all can try and watch it fail tbh, I don't really care anymore atp

 

[OmniScalator]

Genuinely pushing the HDE agenda when it's not the equivalent of HSR or PGR in which both are literally gacha games too and then HI3's HDE with all of the Herrschers itself being mere projections of the Cocoon of Finality (Since it's only CoF that is real).
You guys serious?

Bro it is not agenda lol there are literal hints, also HDE doesn't necessarily require avatar, infact most of the cases I have seen of HDE doesn't need avatar at all

 

[Voidnether]

Bro it is not agenda lol there are literal hints, also HDE doesn't necessarily require avatar, infact most of the cases I have seen of HDE doesn't need avatar at all

Mention one then, that actually doesn't need an avatar because even the Cocoon of Finality itself needs an avatar through the Herrscher of Finality to manifest in the world with all the Herrschers as mere projections of it

 

[OmniScalator]

Mention one then, that actually doesn't need an avatar because even the Cocoon of Finality itself needs an avatar through the Herrscher of Finality to manifest in the world with all the Herrschers as mere projections of it

Contumelia from ben 10

 

[Voidnether]

Contumelia from ben 10

Most three-dimensional beings see a Contumelia as an animate projection of what holds the most emotional sway over them

This, with the fact that they're inherently 5 dimensional in nature because they already reside within 5 dimensional place that was STATED EXPLICITLY to be 5 dimensional with most three dimensional beings seeing them as projections. What do you even think projections were when I kept saying it multiple times?

Try again

 

[PedjaTarzan]

nether cooking vros

 

[Voidnether]

nether cooking vros

Still better than my bricked genshin account unfortunately

 

[OmniScalator]

This, with the fact that they're inherently 5 dimensional in nature because they already reside within 5 dimensional place that was STATED EXPLICITLY to be 5 dimensional with most three dimensional beings seeing them as projections. What do you even think projections were when I kept saying it multiple times?

Try again

Bro if you think projections and avatar are same then sure

Btw what we saw as large eye in sky may also be considered as projection of Ronova, and I haven't done skirk SQ but I heard surtalogi also is not bound by form now, also why are you so against HDE when it doesn't guarantee any increase in AP or Tiering

 

[Voidnether]

Bro if you think projections and avatar are same then sure

Btw what we saw as large eye in sky may also be considered as projection of Ronova, and I haven't done skirk SQ but I heard surtalogi also is not bound by form now, also why are you so against HDE when it doesn't guarantee any increase in AP or Tiering

Projections and avatar are literally the same thing, the context of that projection of Ronova is literally in the context of an interdimensional realm instead of it being higher-dimensional ones. The large eye being projections of Ronova in that context is because each Shades don't have to manifest their true forms.. Pierro and the rest of Khaenri'ah were capable of seeing Ronova's true form when they were being cursed and Khaenri'ah is a 3-D realm just like Teyvat and the rest. It's very different.

Why am I against HDE? Because if you made a CRT about it, it genuinely wouldn't pass. I'm just stopping another disastrous Genshin CRTs for like what? I don't even remember

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Higher dimensional beings in honkai games are literaly dwarfing whole reality at a level where lower dimensions are treated like a book and fictional
somehow being beyond dimensional (******* 3 cases of that) isnt blatant here but aight
and genshin closest one is just celestia and shades which oh well you can AURA FARM on them bums, and with lack of explicit literal statements? nah next time trust

 

[Voidnether]

Higher dimensional beings in honkai games are literaly dwarfing whole reality at a level where lower dimensions are treated like a book and fictional
somehow being beyond dimensional (******* 3 cases of that) isnt blatant here but aight
and genshin closest one is just celestia and shades which oh well you can AURA FARM on them bums, and with lack of explicit literal statements? nah next time trust

Naaah, you know what? Instead of saying Ronova just manifested her true form when she cursed Khaenri'ah instead of her large eye ones, let's make it that those who are from Khaenri'ah each have their extrasensory perception up to 4-D because the shades realm are interdimensional (I mean higher dimensional even if it was never stated as one) just because they could see Ronova's true form!!

This is the equivalent of 99% the characters there having basically no melanin at all

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Naaah, you know what? Instead of saying Ronova just manifested her true form when she cursed Khaenri'ah instead of her large eye ones, let's make it that those who are from Khaenri'ah each have their extrasensory perception up to 4-D because the shades realm are interdimensional (I mean higher dimensional even if it was never stated as one) just because they could see Ronova's true form!!

4D aura farm perception

This is the equivalent of 99% the characters there having basically no melanin at all

capitano stole it all

 

[Voidnether]

Like how is that even supposed to work? Khaenri'ah is just a nation where people from Teyvat can go there and identify as one, this is explained in the newest Archon Quest anyway

Khaenri'ah having 4-D ESP cause they could see the Shades's true form would also mean the rest of the people in Genshin Impact having those access to that either but that's just borderline headcanon either way because what has been shown are the Khaenri'ah people. There's nothing that's not a Khaenri'ah in there when Ronova cursed them, Khaenri'ah physiology doesn't even exist

 

[OmniScalator]

This, with the fact that they're inherently 5 dimensional in nature because they already reside within 5 dimensional place that was STATED EXPLICITLY to be 5 dimensional with most three dimensional beings seeing them as projections. What do you even think projections were when I kept saying it multiple times?

Try again

Bro if you think projections and avatar are same then sure

Btw what we saw as large eye in sky may also be considered as projection of Ronova, and I haven't done skirk SQ but I heard surtalogi also is not bound by form now, also why are you so against HDE when it doesn't guarantee any increase in AP or Tiering

Projections and avatar are literally the same thing, the context of that projection of Ronova is literally in the context of an interdimensional realm instead of it being higher-dimensional ones. The large eye being projections of Ronova in that context is because each Shades don't have to manifest their true forms.. Pierro and the rest of Khaenri'ah were capable of seeing Ronova's true form when they were being cursed and Khaenri'ah is a 3-D realm just like Teyvat and the rest. It's very different.

Why am I against HDE? Because if you made a CRT about it, it genuinely wouldn't pass. I'm just stopping another disastrous Genshin CRTs for like what? I don't even remember

Well thanks for your concern

But let's talk about projections for you and let me simplify it

What do you think a shadow is? And what do you understand by a 3D shadow?

 

[Voidnether]

What do you think a shadow is? And what do you understand by a 3D shadow?

Shadow in its purest form is something that's created when your body blocks the light from passing through.
3-D Shadow means it operates on a 3-dimensional level, so then what?

 

[OmniScalator]

Shadow in its purest form is something that's created when your body blocks the light from passing through.
3-D Shadow means it operates on a 3-dimensional level, so then what?

And how many dimensions is a shadow projected by a 3d being?

 

[Voidnether]

And how many dimensions is a shadow projected by a 3d being?

3-D

 

[OmniScalator]

3-D

Cool

 

[Puppet43]

Absolute cinema

 

[Giannysmag]

She's really hot

 

[MSahla]

She's really hot

The best part of her design is her eyes

 

[Giannysmag]

The best part of her design is her eyes

Unironically (also streets be saying she is Apep's human form)