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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

Voidnether said:
Ignoring the agendas and all that and the abilities lacking scans most of the time from F/SN itself, it's kinda funny how people are treating it as if they're different when obviously what happened are after the incidents of F/SN lol. It wouldn't make sense if they can't be scaled given it's Nasu himself that stated it anyway (HSR downplayers will always find a way to cope like how they downplayed the most blatant galaxy feats into planetary system) not even a star system
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they are just factual vro everything in hsr is part of teyvat therefore stars are fake so cvpe mro
 
As someone from the Nasu comm myself, it's really ******* blatant that they're from FSN. The author himself says as much, if you take time to read their lore/character story in the HSR profiles, you'll just find the most blatant statements pertaining to it and them referencing both Shirou/Rin, the same backstory that they had, heck the events of Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay Night are mentioned by Saber as well... If you choose to ignore everything in spite of that, I don't know what to tell you.
 
Voidnether said:
Ignoring the agendas and all that and the abilities lacking scans most of the time from F/SN itself, it's kinda funny how people are treating it as if they're different when obviously what happened are after the incidents of F/SN lol. It wouldn't make sense if they can't be scaled given it's Nasu himself that stated it anyway (HSR downplayers will always find a way to cope like how they downplayed the most blatant galaxy feats into planetary system) not even a star system
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Saber’s profile all have scans now for her abilities. Archer’s missing 5. Should we re add the servant physiology and make a note explaining how outdated the page is
 
By all means they should have a servant physiology because a Holy Grail is what does a fraction of the Third Magic to allow Heroic Spirits summoned into the body of a servant. And we're explicitly told that Artoria is a heroic spirit and heeded the call of the Holy Grail War and by extension, the Holy Grail itself which maintains their existence for the time of the war (which is what servants always do).
The solitary Heroic Spirit traverses the long night of fate. The banner of the round table remains unfurled in a dream. Alas, the knight-king of Camelot has yet to reach that ever-distant utopia.
Though still a young maiden, she has heeded the call for this most unique iteration of the Holy Grail War. With the Sword in the Stone offering its choice once more, how shall she shatter the illusions of the past?
— "The wishes I did not fulfill will end here."
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To those versed in the arcane, the Holy Grail is nothing less than an omnipotent wish-granting calice, one that can effortlessly turn the impossible into reality.

"Yeah, I know, it sounds like a con. But it's real. People have even twisted its rules to deceive others."
"As a Servant, the Holy Grail is the reason I can remain in this world. Yet in the Holy Grail War I've fought in, I've shattered it more than once. You'd probably call that a bit of a running tradition?"
"...Making that initial resolve isn't easy. It is an omnipotent wish-granting calice, after all. Who doesn't have a few selfish dreams they'd like to see come true?"
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You also have it outright stated up there that the Holy Grail can effortlessly turn the impossible into reality, I don't see why that won't apply to this unique iteration of the dreams within Penacony anyway with what "Magical Energy" is applicable to the world during the duration of the Holy Grail War, just as how servants are summoned and are materialized into their servant bodies by the Holy Grail respectively.

And also, I think someone told me what they stated was in relation to ME and Mystery being less in potency, not that it outright doesn't exist? I need the exact scans for that to be sure of this but my point remains the same either way.
 
ShinMaximillion said:
By all means they should have a servant physiology because a Holy Grail is what does a fraction of the Third Magic to allow Heroic Spirits summoned into the body of a servant. And we're explicitly told that Artoria is a heroic spirit and heeded the call of the Holy Grail War and by extension, the Holy Grail itself which maintains their existence for the time of the war (which is what servants always do).


You also have it outright stated up there that the Holy Grail can effortlessly turn the impossible into reality, I don't see why that won't apply to this unique iteration of the dreams within Penacony anyway with what "Magical Energy" is applicable to the world during the duration of the Holy Grail War, just as how servants are summoned and are materialized into their servant bodies by the Holy Grail respectively.

And also, I think someone told me what they stated was in relation to ME and Mystery being less in potency, not that it outright doesn't exist? I need the exact scans for that to be sure of this but my point remains the same either way.
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We unironically have enough evidence to turn this into an entire explanation page for why hsr saber and archer keeps all of their abilities and stats in HSR

Robo432343 said:
is HSR canon to nasuverse
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Fate storyline is canon to HSR. HSR is not canon to the nasuverse
 
I would make an HSR Lancer profile but his profile would literally just be a 99% copy of his stay night one all because he isn’t playable in HSR
 
We really need a discussion whether or not the holy grail turned Oti into a 1:1 skaracabaz and scales fully to an emanator or just upscales aventurine of stratagems
 
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CastoriceTheFifth said:
We really need a discussion whether or not the holy grail turned Oti into a 1:1 skaracabaz and scales fully to an emanator or just upscales aventurine of stratagems
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As far as i know real scarakabaz is die, so i dont think he transformed into real one but some kind of copy or shit like that.
as far as the fight goes i dont remember anyone significantly harming bro except Saber with her Excalibur
 
PedjaTarzan said:
As far as i know real scarakabaz is die, so i dont think he transformed into real one but some kind of copy or shit like that.
as far as the fight goes i dont remember anyone significantly harming bro except Saber with her Excalibur
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1:1 like scaling and abilities . In that aspect I think they’re 1:1 since he used the holy grail.

Yeah it was only saber who damaged it.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
First emanator level character being one shotted by a non emanator btw
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Or literally just reused assets, which hoyo does in this exact same event. Supposed emanator of the propagation appeared and nobody thought it was important enough to mention? 3-B is a massive reach that relies on a pretty big assumption.
 
Zefkiel said:
Or literally just reused assets, which hoyo does in this exact same event. Supposed emanator of the propagation appeared and nobody thought it was important enough to mention? 3-B is a massive reach that relies on a pretty big assumption.
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No, 3-B scales off Phainon destroying multiple galaxies (Like 6) and Lord Ravagers being stated to incinerate entire galaxies, Rubert annihilating a whole galaxy in a nanosecond. All of those galaxies are not small ones, we have the largest galaxy in real life that's only 1,764,000 lightyears in diameter whilst Asdana as a galaxy itself is stated to be millions of lightyears (Which at the least should be 2 million to be honest). Phainon one is 5.408403e+74, I'll calculate the Rubert one later after I'm done adding scans and the large size calculation then I'm posting the source code
 
Voidnether said:
No, 3-B scales off Phainon destroying multiple galaxies (Like 6) and Lord Ravagers being stated to incinerate entire galaxies, Rubert annihilating a whole galaxy in a nanosecond. All of those galaxies are not small ones, we have the largest galaxy in real life that's only 1,764,000 lightyears in diameter whilst Asdana as a galaxy itself is stated to be millions of lightyears (Which at the least should be 2 million to be honest). Phainon one is 5.408403e+74, I'll calculate the Rubert one later after I'm done adding scans and the large size calculation then I'm posting the source code
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Where is the Phainon calc if I may ask?
 
Voidnether said:
No, 3-B scales off Phainon destroying multiple galaxies (Like 6) and Lord Ravagers being stated to incinerate entire galaxies, Rubert annihilating a whole galaxy in a nanosecond. All of those galaxies are not small ones, we have the largest galaxy in real life that's only 1,764,000 lightyears in diameter whilst Asdana as a galaxy itself is stated to be millions of lightyears (Which at the least should be 2 million to be honest). Phainon one is 5.408403e+74, I'll calculate the Rubert one later after I'm done adding scans and the large size calculation then I'm posting the source code
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And Saber scales off of this how? I’m not seeing how you justify scaling her to emanators
 
Voidnether said:
No, 3-B scales off Phainon destroying multiple galaxies (Like 6) and Lord Ravagers being stated to incinerate entire galaxies, Rubert annihilating a whole galaxy in a nanosecond. All of those galaxies are not small ones, we have the largest galaxy in real life that's only 1,764,000 lightyears in diameter whilst Asdana as a galaxy itself is stated to be millions of lightyears (Which at the least should be 2 million to be honest). Phainon one is 5.408403e+74, I'll calculate the Rubert one later after I'm done adding scans and the large size calculation then I'm posting the source code
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For the scepters, could you check that the translation is indeed "galaxy", because it could in fact mean "solar system"
 
MotherStar said:
For the scepters, could you check that the translation is indeed "galaxy", because it could in fact mean "solar system"
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

i mean ig i can spoil my plans a bit, simply granting every pathstrider and emanator IMG energy with 1-B range from drawing that energy directly from their respective aeon, as well as getting those abilities but on the 3D scale (potency and range). tho emanators migh have 1-B range for all...
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DeepL supremacy
 
Voidnether said:
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

i mean ig i can spoil my plans a bit, simply granting every pathstrider and emanator IMG energy with 1-B range from drawing that energy directly from their respective aeon, as well as getting those abilities but on the 3D scale (potency and range). tho emanators migh have 1-B range for all...
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DeepL supremacy
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Between simplified and traditional Chinese, which one is canon for hsr? And in simplified Chinese, the translation is stellar system, so that corresponds to solar systems, right?
 
MotherStar said:
Between simplified and traditional Chinese, which one is canon for hsr? And in simplified Chinese, the translation is stellar system, so that corresponds to solar systems, right?
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Both are canon, and no it does not refer to a planetary star system. Say it was a star system even if the translation is galaxy, the bare minimum would be 20k lightyears and the maximum would be 99.999 lightyears (Welkin Empire in HSR that spans tens of thousands of lightyears)
 
Voidnether said:
Both are canon, and no it does not refer to a planetary star system. Say it was a star system even if the translation is galaxy, the bare minimum would be 20k lightyears and the maximum would be 99.999 lightyears (Welkin Empire in HSR that spans tens of thousands of lightyears)
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dm!!!
 
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Watcher of Nihility vs Observer

Basically, Black Swan with Acheron on Rondo Across Countless Kalpas. But this time however, Black Swan isn't there and instead we have Ishmael as the Memokeeper. Obviously Ishmael is using her Primal Projection form when doing this to Acheron, however something Ishmael would terrifingly know...
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I know this would be a dead matchup given the timing and that thread where someone wasn't accepting that his favorite character lost to Ishmael, but what do you guys think anyway?
 
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