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Yuan Qi Explanation on Magic Emperor Verse

SweetDao said:
You'd have to ask in the translation thread, not here I think, but regardless, it's obviously just some sort of "energy". I don't think it has anything to do with a CM or something. The specificities on how it operate (like the fact it can be rejected by one's soul) isn't really important for the thread imo.
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this the explanation of pinyin of yuan qi 元气=Yuan Qi. Literal meaning is primal energy, but it can also be spiritual energy, the energy of the world. While the dictionary translates it as strength, vitality, vigor.

The correct term will be used depending on the context in which it is used, and in the context given above, the correct term would be “vitality” because after absorbing the Yuan Qi, the man died immediately afterwards because, in addition to this, we saw him wither away during the absorption process.

We can't say “energy” because that wouldn't have affected his body directly in the way that it did, and it can't be “force” because I find that a bit vague, as there are several different types of force.
 
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Le_démon_Araii said:
Here the translation of yuan qi元气=Yuan Qi. Literal meaning is primal energy, but it can also be spiritual energy, the energy of the world. While the dictionary translates it as strength, vitality, vigor.

The correct term will be used depending on the context in which it is used, and in the context given above, the correct term would be “vitality” because after absorbing the Yuan Qi, the man died immediately afterwards because, in addition to this, we saw him wither away during the absorption process.

We can't say “energy” because that wouldn't have affected his body directly in the way that it did, and it can't be “force” because I find that a bit vague, as there are several different types of force.
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Btw the translation is made by DDL
 
I'm still not seeing how this is CM Type 3?

Simply dying because it was taken isn't enough; it needs to be shown that it's the foundation of a cultivator's existence. As in, if the concept goes, the Cultivator is erased or something to that effect.

Also, evidence that it's conceptual in nature in the first place. Being primal energy, energy of the world, etc, isn't a qualification for that.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
I'm still not seeing how this is CM Type 3?

Simply dying because it was taken isn't enough; it needs to be shown that it's the foundation of a cultivator's existence. As in, if the concept goes, the Cultivator is erased or something to that effect.

Also, evidence that it's conceptual in nature in the first place. Being primal energy, energy of the world, etc, isn't a qualification for that.
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I mean, this is sort of a subjective thing, but I think that narratively having a character instantly die as opposed to being literally erased is fine as a consequence in fiction to having something fundamental to your existence removed.

It could just be symbolic of the fact that them as a person depends on it, but not the literal molecules which make up their body.
 
FinePoint said:
I mean, this is sort of a subjective thing, but I think that narratively having a character instantly die as opposed to being literally erased is fine as a consequence in fiction to having something fundamental to your existence removed.

It could just be symbolic of the fact that them as a person depends on it, but not the literal molecules which make up their body.
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True, but in that case, life force would count as a Type 3 Concept, or souls, since characters usually die when those are extracted.

Not saying they can't be conceptual, but there needs to be something else aside from that, some kind of other evidence..
 
FinePoint said:
I mean, this is sort of a subjective thing, but I think that narratively having a character instantly die as opposed to being literally erased is fine as a consequence in fiction to having something fundamental to your existence removed.

It could just be symbolic of the fact that them as a person depends on it, but not the literal molecules which make up their body.
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Do you think this can help for cm
 
FinePoint said:
I mean, this is sort of a subjective thing, but I think that narratively having a character instantly die as opposed to being literally erased is fine as a consequence in fiction to having something fundamental to your existence removed.

It could just be symbolic of the fact that them as a person depends on it, but not the literal molecules which make up their body.
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Can this be applied or not yet?
 
Youngwolf-0.1 said:
Do you think this can help for cm
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I don't really see how.
Youngwolf-0.1 said:
Can this be applied or not yet?
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No. SpaceMan didn't change their mind and no other staff have commented, so we're in the same place as before.
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
True, but in that case, life force would count as a Type 3 Concept, or souls, since characters usually die when those are extracted.

Not saying they can't be conceptual, but there needs to be something else aside from that, some kind of other evidence..
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To be fair, I think a "soul" is indeed extremely similar in idea to a Type 3 Concept.

The main difference I can think of is that a soul is often considered also something real inside the body, just intangible, whereas a Type 3 Concept is presumably not present at all in the traditional sense.

That said, that also sort of feels like what's going on here, since it could be stolen from someone in particular and then held in someone else.

I think there's a case to be made either way, personally. It's kind of vague.

Would you be willing to compromise for a "Possibly" in that case?
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
I don't know, I'm just really not seeing it.

It feels like something that would be removed the moment it's brought up in the future, if the only reasoning is that people die when their Yuan Qi is stolen.
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Alright. Since this is ultimately subjective, I suppose we will need to wait for more input then.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
I don't know, I'm just really not seeing it.

It feels like something that would be removed the moment it's brought up in the future, if the only reasoning is that people die when their Yuan Qi is stolen.
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FinePoint said:
Alright. Since this is ultimately subjective, I suppose we will need to wait for more input then.
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We create another thread for cm type if your interested can you check this
https://vsbattles.com/threads/cm-for-zhuo-fan-third-time-lol.181682/
 
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