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Twilight (Verse)
Twilight is a series of fantasy romance novels by Stephenie Meyer. The series consists of: The four main novels (Twilight, New Moon, Eclipse and Breaking Dawn) The spin-off novella The Short Second Life of Bree Tanner The spin-off encyclopedic reference book The Twilight Saga: The Official...
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Baldi
Baldi is the math teacher of Here School. Despite his calm and encouraging attitude at first, his true colors become clear once the player (unavoidably) gets a question wrong on one of his quizzes, sending him on a wrathful chase for the student across the schoolhouse to punish them by beating...
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Agent 47
Agent 47 also known as The Hitman is the protagonist of the Hitman games. He is a genetically engineered clone of Dr. Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer. 47 is the best assassin of the International Contract Agency (ICA). Tier: 9-B physically, higher with melee weapons, firearms and even higher with normal...
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Extraordinary Genius:
Photographic memory and superhuman working memory index/visual spatial ability
Extremely high learning ability (Noted by Dr. Ort-Meyer to master firearms extremely fast, can replicate a grandmaster level chess move with no prior experience)
Disciplined in several fields including foreign cultures, theology, music theory, spycraft, forensic science, hacking, toxicology, quantum mechanics (and by necessity mathematics and physics), general culture, and, of course, assassinations
Knows at least 18 languages
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Does this count as an intelligence feat:
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Would this qualify as Nigh Omniscience?
In one novel, Freddy Krueger shows that he has seemingly perfect knowledge of everyone in Springwood’s thoughts and psyches, and all the current happenings within the town, though this shouldn’t extend past the town due to the nature of his powers.
Also he knows everything that happens within the Dream World
In one novel, Freddy Krueger shows that he has seemingly perfect knowledge of everyone in Springwood’s thoughts and psyches, and all the current happenings within the town, though this shouldn’t extend past the town due to the nature of his powers.
Also he knows everything that happens within the Dream World
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John Kramer
John Kramer is a former civil engineer and cancer patient who after helplessly watching his wife be assaulted by a drug addict, which resulted in the death of his unborn son, decided to try and kill himself by crashing a car. However, he ended up surviving it, which caused him to gain an...
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He doesn't have any crazy inventions, but he taught himself medicine and surgery over the course of presumably months, which takes ordinary people years - which alone would make his learning ability superhuman. But he also taught himself chemistry, toxicology, strategy, philosophy, hacking, and several disciplines of engineering beyond what his background as a civil engineer would require.
His plans often require impossibly accurate predictions about the future, particularly in SAW IV.
So he should at minimum be "At least" genius since he has superhuman learning ability, but more reasonably extraordinary genius when you consider his vast span of crystallized intelligence and his superhuman foresight.
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I do not think that it is sufficient in itself to qualify, no.Genius?
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Twilight (Verse)
Twilight is a series of fantasy romance novels by Stephenie Meyer. The series consists of: The four main novels (Twilight, New Moon, Eclipse and Breaking Dawn) The spin-off novella The Short Second Life of Bree Tanner The spin-off encyclopedic reference book The Twilight Saga: The Official...
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Probably, yes.Baldi should be Extraordinary GeniusBaldi
Baldi is the math teacher of Here School. Despite his calm and encouraging attitude at first, his true colors become clear once the player (unavoidably) gets a question wrong on one of his quizzes, sending him on a wrathful chase for the student across the schoolhouse to punish them by beating...
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I think that "At least Genius, possibly Extraordinay Genius" seems more appropriate, since it is a borderline case.Agent 47
Agent 47 also known as The Hitman is the protagonist of the Hitman games. He is a genetically engineered clone of Dr. Otto Wolfgang Ort-Meyer. 47 is the best assassin of the International Contract Agency (ICA). Tier: 9-B physically, higher with melee weapons, firearms and even higher with normal...
Extraordinary Genius:
Photographic memory and superhuman working memory index/visual spatial ability
Extremely high learning ability (Noted by Dr. Ort-Meyer to master firearms extremely fast, can replicate a grandmaster level chess move with no prior experience)
Disciplined in several fields including foreign cultures, theology, music theory, spycraft, forensic science, hacking, toxicology, quantum mechanics (and by necessity mathematics and physics), general culture, and, of course, assassinations
Knows at least 18 languages
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I think that it just seems like quite advanced extrasensory awareness, not of remotely sufficient scale and versatility for nigh omniscience.
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"At least Genius, possibly Extraordinary Genius" seems fine, yes.John Kramer
John Kramer is a former civil engineer and cancer patient who after helplessly watching his wife be assaulted by a drug addict, which resulted in the death of his unborn son, decided to try and kill himself by crashing a car. However, he ended up surviving it, which caused him to gain an...
He doesn't have any crazy inventions, but he taught himself medicine and surgery over the course of presumably months, which takes ordinary people years - which alone would make his learning ability superhuman. But he also taught himself chemistry, toxicology, strategy, philosophy, hacking, and several disciplines of engineering beyond what his background as a civil engineer would require.
His plans often require impossibly accurate predictions about the future, particularly in SAW IV.
So he should at minimum be "At least" genius since he has superhuman learning ability, but more reasonably extraordinary genius when you consider his vast span of crystallized intelligence and his superhuman foresight.
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He's already Extraordinary Genius, no? I think he meant that he wanted to add those to his intelligence section (Might be wrong.)I think that "At least Genius, possibly Extraordinay Genius" seems more appropriate, since it is a borderline case.
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A plain Extraordinary Genius rating seems exaggerated. I think that some human geniuses have almost comparable accomplishments, and EG should start quite considerably above maximum real world human limits.
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thanksProbably, yes.
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The One You Shouldn't Have Killed
After coming to terms with his business partner murdering countless children, including both of their daughters, and being killed and reanimated within the Spring Bonnie suit, Henry Emily, co-owner of Fazbear Entertainment, finally set into motion a plan that would end William Afton and all of...
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Yes, agreed.Above Average fits betterThe One You Shouldn't Have Killed
After coming to terms with his business partner murdering countless children, including both of their daughters, and being killed and reanimated within the Spring Bonnie suit, Henry Emily, co-owner of Fazbear Entertainment, finally set into motion a plan that would end William Afton and all of...
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Seong Gi-hun
Seong Gi-hun is the main protagonist of Squid Game. He lives with his mother who works a lot. He secretly steals money to go and bet with a friend but is discovered and beaten by the gangsters whose money he stole. Later, at a subway station, he is approached by a salesman who wants to play...
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Great!"At least Genius, possibly Extraordinary Genius" seems fine, yes.
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Maybe "At least Gifted". I do not think that his feats seem to quite have been honed to genius level.He should be geniusSeong Gi-hun
Seong Gi-hun is the main protagonist of Squid Game. He lives with his mother who works a lot. He secretly steals money to go and bet with a friend but is discovered and beaten by the gangsters whose money he stole. Later, at a subway station, he is approached by a salesman who wants to play...
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Lavos
Lavos is the main antagonist of Chrono Trigger and its sequel, Chrono Cross. Less of a person with understandable goals and emotions and more of a force of nature, Lavos is a cosmic insectoid parasite of gargantuan proportions that crashlanded into the blue planet during the Prehistoric Ages...
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Can I also add the ability genius intelligence too?"At least Genius" seems fine.
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This definitely isn’t Genius. Gifted seems way more reasonable, especially given how his plan in the end failed anyway and more than likely wasn’t gonna work from the start.He should be geniusSeong Gi-hun
Seong Gi-hun is the main protagonist of Squid Game. He lives with his mother who works a lot. He secretly steals money to go and bet with a friend but is discovered and beaten by the gangsters whose money he stole. Later, at a subway station, he is approached by a salesman who wants to play...
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"At least Genius" seems fine.
Light Yagami
Light Yagami (夜神月, Yagami Raito), also known as "Kira," is the main protagonist of the Death Note series. A high-achieving student with a strong sense of justice, Light discovers the Death Note and, accompanied by the watchful Shinigami Ryuk, embarks on a mission to rid the world of evil by...
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Yotsuba deduction: Higuchi-Kira, working for Yotsuba co, was killing business rivals using accidents, which L and Light had no knowledge of. Light spotted the pattern after just a few deaths, noticing the coinciding but subtle rise of Yotsuba's stocks in line with with the businessmen deaths. This is absurdly impressive when you consider that there would be dozens of other companies to consider, which would muddle the data: some might rise coincidentally at the same time as Yotsuba, some might similarly benefit from the same deaths as Yotsuba co, and there's also other businessmen dying without Kira's intervention, which would further make it difficult. Even L (who is EG tier) didn't pick up on this. Making it more impressive is the fact that he had 0 prior experience with data analysis, but quickly surpassed the rest of the task force (accelerated development?)
His final plan involved reverse engineering Near's entire thinking and reasoning, and then baiting him into making a plan that he could counter; Near was raised at Wammy's House and even stated to have the same reasoning prowess as L.
WoG states that if he never found the notebook, Light would've become one of the "greatest police leaders in the world," working alongside L. They're also implied to be relative at times within the series.
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Corey IQ Upgrade
Corey Cunningham should be upgraded to At Least Above Average for intelligence for the following feats: • Saw Allyson come home and quickly created a framing plan on Laurie, he stabs his neck quickly as shes walking up to the door and Laurie quickly grabs the knife out of his neck. Allyson...
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You can just paste everything you’ve written in the CRT into this thread, instead of linking the CRT itself.Corey IQ Upgrade
Corey Cunningham should be upgraded to At Least Above Average for intelligence for the following feats: • Saw Allyson come home and quickly created a framing plan on Laurie, he stabs his neck quickly as shes walking up to the door and Laurie quickly grabs the knife out of his neck. Allyson...vsbattles.com
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Corey Cunningham should be upgraded to At Least Above Average for intelligence for the following feats:
• Saw Allyson come home and quickly created a framing plan on Laurie, he stabs his neck quickly as shes walking up to the door and Laurie quickly grabs the knife out of his neck. Allyson believes Laurie killed him, along with the other information Corey had been feeding her previously about how Laurie wants to kill him.
• Successfully deducted and predicted that Alysons ex boyfriend would start following him, to which he lures him to Micheals hideout where Corey and Micheal kill him.
• He purposely keys his bullies car to get them enraged and he drives off to the mechanic where he works, knowing that the bullies would follow. After luring them there, He first kills one kid, waiting off until the bullies see their dead friend, allowing him to create fear and panic between the kids, after they are running around scared and confused he stealthily and brutally kills each and every one of them, including his father.
• It’s at least narratively implied that he’s aware of Micheals influence on him, shown here. As well as supporting dialogue from Corey (Couldn’t find scans on those)
• He pops the bullies tires without being seen or caught, knowing they would come to his mechanic to fix it.
• Stole Micheal’s mask in order to frame Micheal for the killings he’s gonna commit and misdirect people to think Micheal did it instead of him
• Saw Allyson come home and quickly created a framing plan on Laurie, he stabs his neck quickly as shes walking up to the door and Laurie quickly grabs the knife out of his neck. Allyson believes Laurie killed him, along with the other information Corey had been feeding her previously about how Laurie wants to kill him.
• Successfully deducted and predicted that Alysons ex boyfriend would start following him, to which he lures him to Micheals hideout where Corey and Micheal kill him.
• He purposely keys his bullies car to get them enraged and he drives off to the mechanic where he works, knowing that the bullies would follow. After luring them there, He first kills one kid, waiting off until the bullies see their dead friend, allowing him to create fear and panic between the kids, after they are running around scared and confused he stealthily and brutally kills each and every one of them, including his father.
• It’s at least narratively implied that he’s aware of Micheals influence on him, shown here. As well as supporting dialogue from Corey (Couldn’t find scans on those)
• He pops the bullies tires without being seen or caught, knowing they would come to his mechanic to fix it.
• Stole Micheal’s mask in order to frame Micheal for the killings he’s gonna commit and misdirect people to think Micheal did it instead of him
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Lee Myung-gi
Lee Myung-gi (Player 333), portrayed by Im Si-wan in Squid Game Season 2, is a former cryptocurrency YouTuber who enters the deadly competition after his scam coin project collapses. Once a popular online figure, Myung-gi defrauded countless followers—including his ex-girlfriend Jun-hee—before...
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Beyond what's already written in his intelligence section, I think it's clear that he's suppose to be an clear 37th Squid Game expy of Cho Sang-Woo; both being the smart and calculating characters that use their intellect to make it to the end. Even his character tagline is just "Can you outsmart the game?".
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bumpI think MG Coin definitely shouldn't just be at Average and instead at Above Average or Gifted.Lee Myung-gi
Lee Myung-gi (Player 333), portrayed by Im Si-wan in Squid Game Season 2, is a former cryptocurrency YouTuber who enters the deadly competition after his scam coin project collapses. Once a popular online figure, Myung-gi defrauded countless followers—including his ex-girlfriend Jun-hee—before...
Beyond what's already written in his intelligence section, I think it's clear that he's suppose to be an clear 37th Squid Game expy of Cho Sang-Woo; both being the smart and calculating characters that use their intellect to make it to the end. Even his character tagline is just "Can you outsmart the game?".
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This isn't accepted yet, no? Why did you add it? (Sry if i missed it's agreement.After adding a bunch of feats for Light Yagami, I think he's due for a buff to "Extraordinary Genius" or "At most Extraordinary Genius," mainly for the following reasons:Light Yagami
Light Yagami (夜神月, Yagami Raito), also known as "Kira," is the main protagonist of the Death Note series. A high-achieving student with a strong sense of justice, Light discovers the Death Note and, accompanied by the watchful Shinigami Ryuk, embarks on a mission to rid the world of evil by...
Yotsuba deduction: Higuchi-Kira, working for Yotsuba co, was killing business rivals using accidents, which L and Light had no knowledge of. Light spotted the pattern after just a few deaths, noticing the coinciding but subtle rise of Yotsuba's stocks in line with with the businessmen deaths. This is absurdly impressive when you consider that there would be dozens of other companies to consider, which would muddle the data: some might rise coincidentally at the same time as Yotsuba, some might similarly benefit from the same deaths as Yotsuba co, and there's also other businessmen dying without Kira's intervention, which would further make it difficult. Even L (who is EG tier) didn't pick up on this. Making it more impressive is the fact that he had 0 prior experience with data analysis, but quickly surpassed the rest of the task force (accelerated development?)
His final plan involved reverse engineering Near's entire thinking and reasoning, and then baiting him into making a plan that he could counter; Near was raised at Wammy's House and even stated to have the same reasoning prowess as L.
WoG states that if he never found the notebook, Light would've become one of the "greatest police leaders in the world," working alongside L. They're also implied to be relative at times within the series.
)Also this ignores a few thing. L at that moment was depressed and wasn't actually doing much of a research. So Light finding it before L is kinda meaningless.
Just finding about Yotsuba wouldn't mean well as Light himself wanted Rem to choose someone like that, a person who would use it selfishly and would be found. Genius and even Gifted is more than enough for it.
Databook also states that Near has his own limitations for using his abilities. Even Light himself stated that L would definitely figure out Light's plan(reverse engineered Near's plan) and counter it, which Near could only do it thanks to Mello's sacrifice and Mikami's mistake.
Becoming one of the greatest police leaders is a great achievement, but wouldn't be more than Genius, if not Gifted imo.
None of the extra feats support EG as far as i see. Light's feat would be "Genius" or "at least Genius".
Also i think you also added feats that isn't Light's to his page. Beyond Birthday is heavily implied to be killed by a "Kira" but it can't be Light. It would be Misa as she's the one with the eyes, not an intelligence feat at all.
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Page with High Intelligence rating needing to be changed. Just off the justification, I believe gifted is warranted.
Another Page, no justification so would changing it to Average or Unknown be justified?
Another Page, no justification so would changing it to Average or Unknown be justified?
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Yes. That is fine.
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That makes sense to me.
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I suppose that "At least Genius, possibly Extraordinary Genius" likely seems fine then, given his less conclusive feats that for L.After adding a bunch of feats for Light Yagami, I think he's due for a buff to "Extraordinary Genius" or "At most Extraordinary Genius," mainly for the following reasons:Light Yagami
Light Yagami (夜神月, Yagami Raito), also known as "Kira," is the main protagonist of the Death Note series. A high-achieving student with a strong sense of justice, Light discovers the Death Note and, accompanied by the watchful Shinigami Ryuk, embarks on a mission to rid the world of evil by...
Yotsuba deduction: Higuchi-Kira, working for Yotsuba co, was killing business rivals using accidents, which L and Light had no knowledge of. Light spotted the pattern after just a few deaths, noticing the coinciding but subtle rise of Yotsuba's stocks in line with with the businessmen deaths. This is absurdly impressive when you consider that there would be dozens of other companies to consider, which would muddle the data: some might rise coincidentally at the same time as Yotsuba, some might similarly benefit from the same deaths as Yotsuba co, and there's also other businessmen dying without Kira's intervention, which would further make it difficult. Even L (who is EG tier) didn't pick up on this. Making it more impressive is the fact that he had 0 prior experience with data analysis, but quickly surpassed the rest of the task force (accelerated development?)
His final plan involved reverse engineering Near's entire thinking and reasoning, and then baiting him into making a plan that he could counter; Near was raised at Wammy's House and even stated to have the same reasoning prowess as L.
WoG states that if he never found the notebook, Light would've become one of the "greatest police leaders in the world," working alongside L. They're also implied to be relative at times within the series.
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That seems perfectly fine to apply.
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Good points. Never mind then.This isn't accepted yet, no? Why did you add it? (Sry if i missed it's agreement.
Also this ignores a few thing. L at that moment was depressed and wasn't actually doing much of a research. So Light finding it before L is kinda meaningless.
Just finding about Yotsuba wouldn't mean well as Light himself wanted Rem to choose someone like that, a person who would use it selfishly and would be found. Genius and even Gifted is more than enough for it.
Databook also states that Near has his own limitations for using his abilities. Even Light himself stated that L would definitely figure out Light's plan(reverse engineered Near's plan) and counter it, which Near could only do it thanks to Mello's sacrifice and Mikami's mistake.
Becoming one of the greatest police leaders is a great achievement, but wouldn't be more than Genius, if not Gifted imo.
None of the extra feats support EG as far as i see. Light's feat would be "Genius" or "at least Genius".
Also i think you also added feats that isn't Light's to his page. Beyond Birthday is heavily implied to be killed by a "Kira" but it can't be Light. It would be Misa as she's the one with the eyes, not an intelligence feat at all.
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Gifted seems reasonable. i applied it.I think MG Coin definitely shouldn't just be at Average and instead at Above Average or Gifted.Lee Myung-gi
Lee Myung-gi (Player 333), portrayed by Im Si-wan in Squid Game Season 2, is a former cryptocurrency YouTuber who enters the deadly competition after his scam coin project collapses. Once a popular online figure, Myung-gi defrauded countless followers—including his ex-girlfriend Jun-hee—before...
Beyond what's already written in his intelligence section, I think it's clear that he's suppose to be an clear 37th Squid Game expy of Cho Sang-Woo; both being the smart and calculating characters that use their intellect to make it to the end. Even his character tagline is just "Can you outsmart the game?".
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I handled it.
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