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Mantras fully scale too, probably even more with high damaging ones like eclipse kickOur AP rating came from our melee attacks why do u not think we gotta fight up close? The Mantras are just there to create more mixups
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A roblox player goes vampire hunting - The player(Deepwoken) vs Dio brando(jjba)
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Yeah but he has a massive ap advantage.
dio can't just mindlessly touch him and end the match because his limbs would just get chopped up
Delusionaltx2
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Again dio can't just touch him as easily as you think with the ap gapOur AP rating came from our melee attacks why do u not think we gotta fight up close? The Mantras are just there to create more mixups
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Idk his dura, but i don't think it'd be enough for a one shot, and there's the regen and lifting strength too
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His ap is still enough to cut dios limbs off if he gets close which wouldn't need a one shot difference to pull off.
8.985 (without amps) vs 4 tons
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Should have specified more stuff tbh, i can very well imagine john deepwoken using his float like a butterfly move if he was a bladeharper
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They're going to use all of their dodge moves with this one
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If you guys are still not convinced this is fair I can make john deep have prior knowledge on dios flashfreezing ability.
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Bump
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Yea, that'd make the fight more fair
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only supposed to bump 12 hours or so since last interaction
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If the player decides to try and cut Dio, why couldn't Dio just freeze them through their weaponry, since he literally does just that against Jonathan?
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Because Jonathan is not only weaker than the player in ap but he's 5x weaker than dio himself.
Not to mention dio is supposedly trying to grab the player here to abuse his freezing which would mean he wouldn't have his guard up the same way he did when fighting johnathan
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That. doesn't answer my question? Dio is using hax here, he's ignoring durability how much weaker he is doesn't really apply here.
If Dio can get in contact with any of the player's weapons, he can freeze them through that
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Dios hax relies on him physically holding whatever he is freezing. He can do this against Jonathan because he's physically stronger than him so therefore johnathan can't just immediately cut his limbs off even with hamon. The player is physically above both of them in ap which means they can slice through him like butter.
Forgot but can dio even freeze inorganic matter? Last I checked he relies on draining the moisture from something to do this which would not be present in some that happens to not need water to function.
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Restraining someone uses lifting strength, which Dio has an advantage in
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Added prior knowledge for dios flash freezing
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From what I've remembered yea.
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call me crazy but doesn't jonathan literally cleave through DIO's arm and cut him in half like butter?
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nah the depths atmosphere is all of the above, i mean lionfishes swim despite normal monsters jump around and dig
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Ok I was about to check the manga for where dio explains the ability but then realized that they should have it on his profile. In anycase Dio vaporizes the water in whatever he's making contact with which gets rid of the heat freezing it instantly.
Not only does this tie into what I said earlier about how inorganic matter not having moisture would make it impossible for this ability to work but I'd also like to add that throughout the entire time dio was able to use this technique (his 3rd fight with johnathan near the end of part one) he's never shown freezing inorganic matter that's devoid of heat (isn't being infused with hamon) which means he should be unable to freeze the players weapons.
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While you can make an argument for him doing this with dios arm (which is debatable due to the fact he grunts when doing this)  He visably struggles to do so with the rest of dios body.
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Yeah but being honest...you don't really need it.
Dio has to freeze them directly in which his limbs would get sliced off immediately upon doing so.
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Any part of his body can flash freeze someone, so if they lobbed off one limb, Dio could just use...
any of his other body parts to do it? Like i don't get how cutting off his limbs will stop him from flash freezing as if Jonathan literally didn't do exactly that and Dio still managed.
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You lop Dio's arm off it's back in less than a second, that shit don't work here lmfao
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cool, in the same vein the player can attack more than once...
johnathan again was struggling to do so and only cut like a single arm along with cutting dios uppersection in half.
again with the ap gap the player can cut dio way easier than johnathan can. If dio brings an arm then the players cuts it off. Dio brings a knee? same thing....
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Well i'm seeing that you equalized speed, so theres physically no way they could be fast enough to cut off several of Dio's limbs before Dio touches them once with any of the other remaining limbs since they'd be moving at the exact same pace.
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Should also note that if speed isn't equalized Dio is over 1000x faster than Deepfuckin's fastest attack lol
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Dio Vsthreads never change.
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1. Since speed is equalized dio would be preparing the next limb at the same time the player would be able to attack (since we've established they would be able to cut through dios body with no problem at all along with the fact dio is already launching an attack at the same time in this scenerio)
2. The player can amp their speed through their talents/abilities.
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Cool, that's why speed is equalized
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how exactly does the fight not go any way else but this? Dio has frozen people who are comparable in speed to him. the player isn't going to hurt dio from cutting his limbs off, the second one limb is gone he'll immediately retaliate.
and lets say theoretically they do react and cut off another limb, they have no idea dio can regenerate, dio likely retracts the previous limb and takes them at surprise.
There is not a situation under the sun the deepwoken player somehow is fast enough to not get hit by any of the above.
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Because your summary of the fight starts to have flaws at the assumption they wouldn't be able to guess which limb dio will hit them with when it literally comes down to "cut anything that's about to make contact with/ is close to me)
Also dio isn't muzan...he doesn't regenerate entire limbs that quickly in fact we see he prefers reattaching them in oppose to fully regenerating them. I'm not saying he can't but what I am saying is that the time it takes for him to regen while fast isn't that fast.
In those matchups dio usually isn't being forced to continueously lunge at the enemy in order to TRY and freeze them. Also they can both amp their speed and get debilitate dios.
yes they will
with what? another limb? what happens when they see dio can still regenerate and proceeds to use omni directional damaku?
Once again dios regen is not that fast but lets say this scenerio this somehow isn't a factor. They has other moves like prediction which just cancels out and reflects the attack.
ur completely the following...
- Their potential speed amps
- Their potential speed nerfs (that they can apply to dio)
- literally other abilities they have and are alluded too within their profile
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Hey did you know Dio has High-Mid regeneration that's combat applicable to the point of working in less than a minute? You can blow him to bloody pieces 100 times and he can just straight up not care because Deepwoken lacks any and all means of actually killing him, and touching him with anything connected to your body is lethal.
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