About Umineko's NEP nature type 2

[Korf3ll]

Little CRT about Umineko's NEP classification.
On Umineko profiles like Featherine, it's indicated to be Nature type 2. Firstly, is there any scans to prove it ? Secondly the justification is more in line with NEP nature type 1 rather than type 2.

• Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2; Exists as an entity of nothingness at the core of her being, with her physical form being constructed and defined solely by her thoughts)

To be NEP Nature type 2 on vsbw, you need to be on a state outside the scope of existence/non-existence, here the description only states that FAA, her core being, exist in a nonexistent state and not that it exist outside the duality existence/nonexistence.
In binary term, if existence = 1 and non existence = 0, FAA should be on 0 state with this justification, so, there is proof to assume to be outside 0;1. (it's just an example).

So i propose to remove the NEP until the scans are provided, and to downgrade the NEP nature type 2 to nature type 1.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

I agree , that aside Umineko profiles seem outdated, with no scans and references.
Looking at the scan, it says she used to be an existence of nothingness. It says 'she used to,' which means she isn’t that anymore. There are other characters with NEP 2 for the same reason. So NEP should be removed entirely, since they’re no longer non-existent. If they gain things like individuality and a body that exists, they aren’t non-existence anymore.

 

[Ovy7]

that aside Umineko profiles seem outdated

They don't seem outdated, they ARE outdated. A revision for the profiles will come in the future.

 

[ExcelsisBerny]

Yeah. This thread is basically useless.