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Li Qiye must obtain 3rd place at least
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Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki
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looking at the profile the justification doesnt even seem to qualify for nonduality/transduality standards1st of course, transdual 2, aca 5, CM1 and a ton of other haxes.............
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well, shit, anyway i just following what abilities the profile have, so......................
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Nah. Still below Yang QI, even if Yang CM1 makes no sense. Li jobs to Yang data manip anyways.1st of course, transdual 2, aca 5, CM1 and a ton of other haxes.............
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Thats going to change soon...
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terrible things happened
we found out recently that most of the translations are wrong
so the Low 1-C rating and all the other stuff had to go
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Probably 2nd or 3rd place
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He get 2nd place, What a Beautiful Series and Blazblue get pushed down to 3th plave, he has Aca 5 which mean he can interact with M and Edison, he has more hax layers than them so he probably beat them and plot hax which M and Edison do not resist, BB can't interact with him due to Aca 5, and their resistance layers is useless due to li qiye has plot hax which BB do not have. Tbf, i probably think he can share 1st place with Yang Qi, but idk Yang Qi hax and resistance layers and does both have passive or not
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Iirc, their NEP didn't have nonexistent plot, so Li qiye can still plot hax them, unless his plot hax is non-combat applicable, but from what i read on his profile, it isn't look like it
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That is just for physical interaction, you need NPI feat, yeah, but you can still hax the aspect that NEP character do not lack, that why Aspects existing for
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They do just start with cracking, so like, unless he starts with the plot manip (he won't) he does just get hit with cracking and killed
Edit: He also just doesn't get past the Princess or the Long Quiet due to their own NEP and Transduality, with the long quiet just EE'ing him on a level he can't come back from and doesn't have feats of resistance for
Edit: He also just doesn't get past the Princess or the Long Quiet due to their own NEP and Transduality, with the long quiet just EE'ing him on a level he can't come back from and doesn't have feats of resistance for
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Princess and Long Quiet transdual do not cover plot, so Li Qiye can plot hax them. We didn't assume transduality cover every haxes that not present in the verse so......
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Will Li Qiye recover his transdual?
And the primordial chaos doesn't qualify for Nep 2?
And the primordial chaos doesn't qualify for Nep 2?
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I mean.. Can Li Qiye's Acausality type 5 save him from that?
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You need proof plot hax can affect transdual beings since they operate on an entirely different logic. So the plot hax would have to operate on same logic as well.
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It's a shame Greeza's the only one usable for this listi'll put this guy below DBH or below VHD
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Ehh I Disagree, I don't think Plot hax needs to operate differently. I'm pretty sure if the said character's Transdual nature doesn't cover plot, it could still be get affected by a plot hax.
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its more like transduality and plot work on entirely different "wavelengths" than each other and for one to actually interact the other there needs to be proof there is interaction that takes place on that "wavelength".
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The nonduality and transduality page explicitly state this;
It needs a specification that the said character needs statement of having sort of immunity to said haxes if stated otherwise.
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No it's not. It's saying that nonduality has to be made clear it comes with a form of immunity (not to any specific hax) or that abilities which have been clearly shown to enforce dualities upon a nondual being would bypass the ability.
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Characters existing in a nondual state regarding all dual systems within an entire level of reality
It says this tho. Entire level of reality of one verse might not be the same as the entire level of reality of the other verse
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And it'd be a NLF to assume things like plot's scope encompasses stuff that exists outside of classical logic. Meanwhile it wouldn't be a NLF to assume transduality is unaffected by normal plot manip because it exists on basically an entirely different "wavelength", but you can still interact with it via plot thats been shown to encompass beings on that level. It's much like how we aren't gonna automatically assume concepts or information fall under plot and vice versa.
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Also the page just says this.
Not all hax within their level of reality, but all hax that dont have this level of nonduality. Not a NLF either since they can still be affected by hax, but only when they have feats on that level.
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What does that line exectly mean then? Pretty sure we currently treat transduality as not being immune to plot if plot manipulation is not part of the verse. Anyway someone should make a thread to clarify this.
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I could just ask DT and see if he replies.
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Ask him to comment on the thread
Nonduality/Transduality question
This question really needs clarification. Let's say a character has nonduality/transduality type 2 or 3 that gives him immunity but his verse doesn't have plot manipulation as a power. Can someone with plot manipulation interact with his nonduality/transduality?
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If we're talking about transduality type 3 then yea I'll agree with you, but from what many people told me here for other types it's not quite the case.
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The only thing really different about type 3 is that it scales to 5 logic states. Transduality 2 still scales to more logic states than typical which means if you acknowledge that type 3 can give blanket immunities to stuff that dont scale to same logic states then so should type 2.
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Another broken chinaman is coming
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Wang Wei
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Another broken chinaman is coming
Wang Wei
Wang Wei (王偉Wáng Wěi?) is the main protagonist of the novel Journey of the Fate Destroying Emperor. He was originally from earth, but after a space crack swallowed him, he wandered in what seemed like nothingness as a soul, devouring others, for many eons. Eventually, he reincarnated into the...
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Wut?
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im saying i'll address this comment in this thread
bruh, why debate here? Isn't this thread supposed to be for the strongest 5D characters? Why?
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DBH should win, since Bugs doesn't have an answer to History EE at all, and I'm pretty sure DBH layered Passive info type 2 hax delete just bypasses his resistances, also having a passive power null, and passive stat and stamina reduction (that passively reduces someone stamina close to 0, unable to fight or do anything). So ye
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Probably not, since DBH Arale exist as well. Her Plot hax is more layered than Bugs bunny and it is passive + Plus stamina reduction just reduces his stamina to 0 and it comes with a paralysis (stun) (basically unable to initiate any movement or activation of ability) I severely doubt he can use such abilities when he is unable to do anything + the said plot hax needs to have evidence that he can save him from such EE ability but from what I've seen it doesn't have sufficient presented evidence unfortunately that indeed he can save him from such.. it's a similar notion to any other metaphysical aspects (a.i.e we don't assume Plot hax can affect Conceptual Ae by default or because someone has Regeneration from Conceptual level doesn't automatically mean you can Regen from a info type 2 erasure etc..) , and iirc i'm pretty sure his Regen doesn't cover history EE.. + ~~Time power and Universe tree respectively can erase the whole multiverse, including the Dr. Slump characters who have narrative hax shenanigans, gosh I might summon Micah here but this is true~~ So yea he's done.. Also UT CC Goku has High Godly Regen negation as well which covers Info type 2 which would negate that (I'm pretty sure DBF/DBH Arale has one as well)
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DB win due to the sheer amounts of character they have.
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