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Low 1-A Slay the Princess

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Ultima was suppose to make this thread but I don't think he'll ever do it so I'll attempt to. Argument might not be complete since Ultima never really once gave me the full details.

So essentially what would be Low 1-A is that, the Shifting Mound and Long Quiet should encompass both Space and Time, being the irreducible shape of everything that all things are connected through, which governs form and substance. They are also unconditioned by what "is" and "is not", and what defines shape of everything. Material existence is also dependent on the perceptions of the Long Quiet (not quite R>F here so no 1-A).

The Princess and Long Quiet should be low 1-A for being unbound by material reality, existing as higher concepts which define and encompass everything, being unconditioned by what they define. They should also be unquantifiably high into baseline low 1-A as they perpetually surpass one another and grow stronger

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I'm... pretty certain the is and is not is also referencing how they transcend duality, considering the reference to beginning and end and her remarks that nothing restrains the her and her counterpart but each other. And that can scale a lot higher than Low 1-A depending on if that interpretation is accepted.

Otherwise, yeah Low 1-A makes perfect sense.
 
Yeah, i agree with Low 1-A here, since they are abstract concepts that define all physical materials of reality, and they encompasses space and time, mean they encompass all possible physical dimensions so Low 1-A is solid
 
The_2nd_Existential_Seed said:
I'm... pretty certain the is and is not is also referencing how they transcend duality, considering the reference to beginning and end and her remarks that nothing restrains the her and her counterpart but each other. And that can scale a lot higher than Low 1-A depending on if that interpretation is accepted.
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to be fair it still works as good supporting evidence since being unbound by duality can still easily lead to unbound by physical reality
 
Low 1-A was originally rejected hy Ultima because he viewed the evidence as contradicting due to the Narrator interacting with the Endless Cycle. If they no longer feel that way I'm not against the change.
 
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Low 1-A was originally rejected hy Ultima because he viewed the evidence as contradicting due to the Narrator interacting with the Endless Cycle. If they no longer feel that way I'm not against the change.
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that was before he played it and I kinda presented it terribly to him. Also weren't you some what involved enough with the discussion on discord to know he agreed with low 1-A
 
I am so confused on these outerversal ranges of power. Doesn't encompassing all of space and time or encompassing "everything" just scale you to the cosmology.
 
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I am so confused on these outerversal ranges of power. Doesn't encompassing all of space and time or encompassing "everything" just scale you to the cosmology.
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The idea behind this Low 1-A rating and the previous High 1-B proposal is that the two characters are the cosmology and constantly exceed each other in an infinite dance. So the idea is that even if the base reality is Low 1-C or 2-A, those two characters would be greater by an infinite amount.

Additionally their state of being is called Absolute or Ultimate Reality. A philosophical concept that hinges on true reality being undefinable by lesser terms and absolute in nature. So they would always be a higher level than whatever a mortal mind could ascribe to them.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
The idea behind this Low 1-A rating and the previous High 1-B proposal is that the two characters are the cosmology and constantly exceed each other in an infinite dance. So the idea is that even if the base reality is Low 1-C or 2-A, those two characters would be greater by an infinite amount.

Additionally their state of being is called Absolute or Ultimate Reality. A philosophical concept that hinges on true reality being undefinable by lesser terms and absolute in nature. So they would always be a higher level than whatever a mortal mind could ascribe to them.
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the main idea is mostly just that concepts which include space and time within themselves and are also what define and originate them while being independent of physical reality is low 1-A since the scope of the concept is greater than and is unbound by the space/time portion of the cosmology.

the absolute reality stuff is good support for low 1-A though I should've included that since it's basically their unrestricted nature.
 
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I don't see why this isn't straight up 1-A tbh, but regardless it's pretty clearly Low 1-A at least. Encompassing all shape, form, and substance. Beyond material existence, transdual, etc....

Yall should get more staff tho
 
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