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Mirai Nikki Universal AP and speed downgrades (kinda)

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Does anyone remember this series nowadays?
The profiles verse profiles are outdated and I do have a later CRT planned covering abilities, but for now we'll discuss stats, since these have some major issues.

Speed:​

Likely Hypersonic (Dodged TNT sensory bombs).
On Yuno's profile. This is referring to this scene. For context, the diary holder Minene placed some sensory explosives around a school that'd go off if anyone got too close to them, and Yuno later just barrels through the school and managed to stay ahead of the resulting explosions.
It's clear this is just Yuno being ahead of the explosions already. There's no point where she actually reacts to and evades the explosions. So the "likely" rating should be scrapped entirely. The nigh omnipresent rating should also be removed because honestly this is just never shown in series. Gods can travel through time and to dimensions but they've never shown omnipresence. It also doesn't really make sense? If they can appear in multiple places simultaneously, then a god causing the destruction of their universe by leaving it behind when they travel to another universe would never happen if they could exist in multiple places at the same time. Moving on.

AP:​

Universe level+ (Can create universes from thin air. Created a universe from Deus' core compressed in the Scope of Dreams which didn't have her existence in it for Yukiteru).

This isn't wrong, but there's more context to how this is done, and that's via causality manipulation. The example here is at the very beginning of the manga, when Deus tells Yuki he's adjusting the Law of Cause and Effect. And when he tells Yuki he can't bring the dead back to life, he says he can't "twist a causality that already been decided, and that a god dying would mean a world (universe in this context) would lose its causality. When Yuno is deemed victor of the survival game in the 2nd World, Muru Muru tells her to "seize the Law of Cause and Effect." Even that dimension that Yuno sealed Yuki in that's mention on her profile is implied to be made via causality manipulation given Muru Muru says the principle of causality is fluctuating when Yuki begins to break out of it.

As a side note, but that realm we see Deus in is referred to as the Realm/Dimension of Cause and Effect multiple times. Relatively minor compared to the other examples but felt it worth mentioning.

Overall, all the hax showings are done via causality manipulation, which isn't a physical AP thing. A god is explicitly stated to be manipulating "the Law of Cause and Effect" multiple times to warp reality. The Universal+ rating in general is fine, but the cast definitely can't punch that hard. It also doesn't help that Yuki, who didn't have any god powers at this point, is physically still a match for Goddess Yuno.


TLDR:​

Remove the "likely hypersonic" and nigh omnipresent rating altogether.
Downgrade the Universal+ AP keys to the small building ratings for physicality, and have an additional rating saying "Universal+ with causality manipulation" or "Universal+ with the Law of Cause and Effect" added to those keys.

I also have issues with abilities but that can be covered in a different thread.

Would need all the profiles unlocked if even one of the proposals are accepted.

Agree with low 2-C Law of Cause and Effect, reverting physical AP back to building, and removing night omnipresence: @Vietthai96 @FinePoint

Disagree:
 
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it shouldn't be Low 2-C in the first place 🗿
How so? If it's about the "worlds" that gods sustain with their existences, then those are in fact universes if you're wondering. And Yuki and Yuno do recreate the 2nd World in the anime but still, that's just a hax thing and not AP. The universe sustaining is also just them sustaining causality, so...no physical AP even then. Hax range should be universal imo
 
How so? If it's about the "worlds" that gods sustain with their existences, then those are in fact universes if you're wondering. And Yuki and Yuno do recreate the 2nd World in the anime but still, that's just a hax thing and not AP. The universe sustaining is also just them sustaining causality, so...no physical AP even then. Hax range should be universal imo
For space-time shenanigans on that scale we just scale the range to Universal+. Infinite 3D range is High Universal.
 
For space-time shenanigans on that scale we just scale the range to Universal+. Infinite 3D range is High Universal.
Oh I thought he was saying he doesn't think the hax is universal in any capacity, lol. Wording put me off.
Well, thoughts on the proposals?
I'll also make an edit saying the Law of Cause and Effect should be Universal+
 
I thought no one else wanted to create a thread for this verse.
There's a LOT of weird things with the profiles so I kinda had to even if the series itself is...fine enough.
Like i said in the OP there's also some issues with abilities but that'll be a different topic. Currently, the profiles are showing their ages though and are very outdated. Not surprised ofc since the series is by all means dead and I don't think many remember it nowadays
 
This all seems logical.

I prefer "Universal+ with the Law of Cause and Effect".

Also, they should have their range changed accordingly with the same thing.
 
Agree

Off-topic a bit but my man, where is your new discord account? I was surprised you did deleted your account there kekw
 
Alright, I was on break for a while so haven't been commenting much. I'll try and go and get this applied. Wouldn't won't this thread to die since the verse is outdated

The thread is oke to me, also i prefer Low 2-C with Law of Cause and Effect like Finepoint
Gotcha 👍
 
Nigh omnipresent 😭 thanks for catching that

Btw, are you also familiar with the verse? There's some abilities I'd like to discuss elsewhere if so
Apologies mate, it's been 4-5 years since I watched the anime and for the next 15 days, minus small checks in the forum, I'm not that available.
But I don't mind assisting you after that timeframe if you still need help.
 
Alright, I was on break for a while so haven't been commenting much. I'll try and go and get this applied. Wouldn't won't this thread to die since the verse is outdated
So did you manage to apply it?
 
So did you manage to apply it?
Pages are still locked.
If you're still on, mind unlocking all them?
 
Pages are still locked.
If you're still on, mind unlocking all them?
Unfortunately, I cannot unlock wiki pages.

@LephyrTheRevanchist @Catzlaflame
 
Unfortunately, I cannot unlock wiki pages.

@LephyrTheRevanchist @Catzlaflame
None that I checked are closed

Pages are still locked.
If you're still on, mind unlocking all them?
If you see them closed is because you don't have an autoconfirmed account
 
Necro bump

This still needs to be applied.
 
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