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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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Nullflowerblush
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Never understood the logic. Moro realizes he cannot sense Merus's life energy, first considers Merus could have been suppressing his Ki, and then immediately deduces he is a "manner of deity" based solely off said information—not because Merus is specifically an Angel, but because he is simply a "type of god" (神のたぐい).
Moro is a mortal, and mortals explicitly cannot sense God Ki.
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Moro literally copied vegeta while in ssbe lol. He'd gain all his abilities, he can also gain things like angel ki through absorption, so this means he gained god ki. Despite all of this, he still couldn't perceive UI goku at all. Yet he could deduct that UI sign wasn't a mortal ability, that it had a divine nature to it. Moro sensed GSK's god power too.
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It would be good if Toyotaro gave the characters some kind of force field
Goku's Limited Space Survival
This topic is based on the "Episode Summary" on Kanzenshuu where it happened in episodes 10 to 14 of the DBS Anime. TOEI Animation used 3 to 4 different words to indicate the places where Goku and Beerus fought during the episode. For the first one, in episode 10 TOEI Animation uses the word...vsbattles.com
This thing about not being able to resist the vacuum really limits the fight choreography that Dragon Ball could have
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At no point in the Granorah saga did it feel like it was actually the strongest guys in the universe fighting
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Firstly, even after copying Vegeta, Piccolo, a mortal, could sense Moro's Ki. He did not become a god.
Secondly, Moro has hair. When he acquired Merus's Ultra Instinct technique, thus entering the Ultra Instinct state, his hair became white—like Goku's hair whenever he accesses the full Ultra Instinct state; evidently, being in the full Ultra Instinct state makes the hair white. When he copied Vegeta, however, his hair did not change.
Moro previously absorbed the energies of Goku and Vegeta in their Super Saiyan God (SS) forms, and both Gohan and Piccolo have sensed his Ki before. Simply absorbing their life energy does not grant Moro godly abilities, or the aura of a god, or even their God Ki.
Could be that, like with Merus, he deduced Ultra Instinct -Sign- was of divine nature because he could not sense Goku's Ki after he transformed.
see merus example i guess
I'd also like to bring up the fact that Vegeta bluffed about not having any transformation beyond God, and Moro believed him, which doesn't make any sense if he could sense God Ki because he'd 100% be able to sense he's concealing his true strength and wouldn't be surprised that he was concealing his true strength.
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Also, "god power" and similar terms have been used throughout the series numerous times and have either referred to one's combat ability, special techniques like Teleportation and Deconstruction(?), or strength, again, but the concept of god power and God Ki are, evidently, not the same; like, both Goku and Vegeta could sense Uub/Grand Supreme Kai's god power, even though they are mortals and cannot sense God Ki without being in their god forms.
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Low Class Saiyan vs The King of Courses (Dragon Ball vs Jujutsu Kaisen)
SON GOKU VS RYOMEN SUKUNA Red Ribbon Army Arc & 15/16 Fingers (Megumi's Body) keys were used. Base Goku scales to 4.63 Kilotons & Class 5. Great Ape scales to 46.3 Kilotons & Class 25. Sukuna scales to 1.32039 Kilotons, higher with Shrine, even higher with Malevolent Shrine, 487.05783 Kilotons...
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I think Toei Buu should gain Statistics Reduction and Goku & Vegeta should have their stats upgraded, as while inside Buu, they could only use 1/100th (less than 1/100th according to Cipher) of their power.
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It should be Conditional Statistics Reduction but otherwise that sounds good to me
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I don't think the conditional part is needed. Just put Statistics Reduction and add at the explanation part that whoever fights inside its body has their powers reduced to (less than) 1/100th.
All abilities have inherent conditions and limitations, that's why we add the explanation alongside the ability
All abilities have inherent conditions and limitations, that's why we add the explanation alongside the ability
StarShooter80
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It’s very conditional? The ability is useless if no one is in the same predicament as Goku and Vegeta. And no not all abilities are conditional
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Anyone that can be absorbed but can resist its body getting trapped by Buu will
Yeah, but lot of them are. For example, in DB, all Saiyan's Oozaru transformations are very conditional (conditional on the planet they are in, on the state of the Moon… specially those without the ability to create an artificial Moon like Goku or Gohan), Mafuba itself is very conditional as for sealing you need to have a container and a seal (which, btw, iirc Goku does not have even as optional equipment, rendering the ability useless), Piccolo's fusionism is conditional, as it only works with other Namekians, Fusion Dance is conditional, as it requires people to have similar height iirc to work, etc. Doesn't mean they have to have a "conditional" in front of them
I just find it completely unnecessary, and tbh I haven't seen it in any other profile since, to explain the exent and the applications of an ability, you just put an explanation.
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Yet they could still fight Ultimate Gohan, who dominated Buu... yet after he were unabsorbed Goku still said they were no match? Kind of weird
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StarShooter80
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Same anime that had Krillin lock in all of a sudden and start beating up Garlic Jr, Toei is just weird with power progression
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Not "Toei Wank"?
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This is Toei scaling we clown in this mfer you want scaling you can downplay take your sensitive ass back to the manga 
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This was something I noticed on the pages, but does DBZ/DBS Ki Manipulation not possess Reality Warping? Considering that we've seen characters break apart reality, construct matter on a mass scale and manipulate time and space with their sheer power (plus there's Hakai and the Toppo warping the WoV feat, as well as numerous abilities the Angels have), I thought that would probably be a given unless there's some extra guidelines for applying something like that to a power system.
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i mean... they still said Super Buu go weaker... yet they still say they can't beat him, but they took on Gohan who was > Buu... nothing here makes sense
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This is Toei scaling we clown in this mfer you want scaling you can downplay take your sensitive ass back to the manga
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We have Kid Buu as the strongest Buu in Toei
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yes... was talking about Super Buu tho
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Everyone above Gotenks and Super Buu should have space time manipulation for blasting apart space time barriers by screaming.
MeiouHades
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We just had a thread recently to decide exactly this.
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wait what?where?
MeiouHades
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Down the hall and to the left
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hahahahah how funny you are
MeiouHades
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No. I'm not.
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okay?
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DB Fans can't read
StarShooter80
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Quite the stellar DB addition
Basically Namek has 3 suns, and it’s shown to dwarf it in size, as a result I’ve made this calculation that has been approved. Votes Agree (4): @LephyrTheRevanchist Agrees with the thread here. @LordGriffin1000 , @Reiner04 (Likely), @DarkDragonMedeus (Same as Reiner) Neutral (0)...
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read? So that's what those symbols next to the pictures meant...
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We can't watch the show
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Nappa DxD (Nappa vs Grendel) (Dragon Ball vs Highschool DxD)
Story Scenario: Nappa makes a film about a manga called Highschool DxD and decides to write himself taking the place of Issei as the harem protagonist. It's about cursed as it sounds. This is Base Nappa vs Grendel. Speed is equalized and fight takes place in the Tournament of Power. Look...
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