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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

So I was
In the midst of my
Slumber

And then was informed that
There was a whole V-Jump that covered more GT Stuff. For instance, the 10x Kamehameha is actually a jump of dozens of times and is implied to potentially use the Kaioken. More evidence that it's own "distinct" version of SSJ, separate from 1-3. Generally interesting stuff. I'm not doing a CRT on it, I just find it neat.
 
There was a whole V-Jump that covered more GT Stuff. For instance, the 10x Kamehameha is actually a jump of dozens of times and is implied to potentially use the Kaioken. More evidence that it's own "distinct" version of SSJ, separate from 1-3. Generally interesting stuff. I'm not doing a CRT on it, I just find it neat.
V-Jump it's made by third party peoples and wasn't (and still isn't) entirely revised by Toei, and they have said stuff wrong in the past. So I would take what they say with a grain of salt. I'd rather stick with Toei guides, chonzeshuu, etc
 
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They could do this for the Canon Ssj4 Daima Goku for his Times 10 Kamehameha Wave.
Quick question. Regarding yesterday, Toriyama said that he wrote BOG movie with the manga in mind, but he never explicitly said is manga exclusive, no?. Becouse I see lot of minsterpretating his statement. This time I'm trying to cook a well made CRT with the help of other Toei fans from this site.
 
Quick question. Regarding yesterday, Toriyama said that he wrote BOG movie with the manga in mind, but he never explicitly said is manga exclusive, no?. Becouse I see lot of minsterpretating his statement. This time I'm trying to cook a well made CRT with the help of other Toei fans from this site.
17年ぶりの劇場版「ドラゴンボールZ神と神 』は、原作者・鳥山明が正式参加し、原作517話〜518話までの空白期間の出来事を描いた、いわば正史。最新技術で甦った「DB」としても大いに注目を集めた。
"The first theatrical film in 17 years, Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, features the official participation of the original author Akira Toriyama and depicts the events which take place during the blank period between Chapters 517 and 518 of the original story, making it an official story. It also attracted a great deal of attention as the DB franchise was brought back to life using latest technology."

(Dragon Ball Chōzenshū 2: Animation Guide Part 1)
パラレルワールド的設定も多かったこれまでの劇場版と違い、原作者・鳥山明が「連載に続きがあったらと想定して考えてみた」と制作に深く関わり、 『Z』編の魔人ブウ戦終結から原作ラストまでの“空白の10年間”に起きたエピソードを描く、正統なオリジナルストーリーとなっている。
"Unlike previous theatrical film releases, which typically explored parallel world-like settings, [Battle of Gods] is an official original story. Akira Toriyama, the original author, said "I tried thinking up an original story, imagining it as though [the manga's] serialization had continued" and was deeply involved in the film's production, and the film depicts events taking place during the 10-year gap between the end of the Majin Buu Saga and the end of the original manga."

(DVD & Blu-ray Vision, April 2013)
クリリンからピッコロ、べジータなどお馴染みの魅力的なキャラクターが総出演し、子供たちも親世代も、原作ファンもアニメファンも納得の、スピンオフでも番外編でもない、ドラゴンボール正史のストーリーが誕生します。
"Such well-known and charming characters as Krillin, Piccolo, and Vegeta will all make an appearance. A new story in the official history of Dragon Ball is born, neither a spin-off nor a side-story, one that can be enjoyed by both children and parents, manga fans and anime fans."

(Toei Animation's Press Release for the upcoming film, July 17, 2012)
The word 正史 (seishi) is Shueisha's word for "canon".
 
Thanks.

Yeah, nowhere it's stated in this scans that the movie is only manga exclusive. Seems to be both manga and Z Anime canon. And obviously now the Super manga and Anime have their own versions of BOG. So BOG is no longer "canon" to the main continuity in the strictest sense.

Also, in the last scan says that it's situated "between the animated Z series and GT".

Besides, how da heck did people interpret Toriyama saying it's only manga canon?. I wonder, why do powerscalers are in the need of taking the slighest statement of an author, extrapoling it to inmense layers of complexity from what he actually said?. Why do people feel the need to apply the Occam's razor fallacy?.
 
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Btw is DBH cosmology considered outer? I know this wiki treats R>F as an outer jump due to irrelevant size
The problem is that you tried to upgrade DBS to Outerversal lol, canon Dragon Ball is nowhere close to that, and never will.
Dragon Ball Heroes has more ground to reach Outerversal levels, but even them can't reach it as of now.
If you ever try to upgrade Dragon Ball in the Tier 1 ranks, please focus only on Xenoverse/Heroes.

Why many Dragon Ball fans act as if Super is the only thing that exists in the franchise? It's annoying af
 
DBH only gets low 1-C because of DBS and you say that bro 🤣
It's undeniable Heroes does have a ground for higher scaling into Low 1-C.

While I don't personally disagree with Low 1-C DBS Zeno (I agree with him being Low 1-C)...Many people do find it shaky.

Just saying. There are arguments to be made for Heroes being above Low 1-C
 
It's undeniable Heroes does have a ground for higher scaling into Low 1-C.
I agree with that even though i don't like DBH because it's awful
While I don't personally disagree with Low 1-C DBS Zeno (I agree with him being Low 1-C)...Many people do find it shaky.
Zeno low low 1-C It's very interesting
Just saying. There are arguments to be made for Heroes being above Low 1-C
6D
 
I sincerely apologize if this has already been answered sufficiently or if this qualifies as derailing (I haven't been on here in years lmao), but why is DBS's universe not regarded as Infinite yet?

I'm sure it's probably a misunderstanding on my end, but are threads like this still not considered conclusive enough by the wiki's standards? I saw someone point out the counter-arguments for it on here, but the thread's I've seen generally seem to have more people supporting it than against it.

(Sorry again if this is an ignorant question lol)
 
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I sincerely apologize if this has already been answered sufficiently or if this qualifies as derailing (I'm relatively new around here), but why is DBS's universe not regarded as Infinite yet?

I'm sure it's probably a misunderstanding on my end, but are threads like this still not considered conclusive enough by the wiki's standards? I saw someone point out the counter-arguments for it on here, but the thread's I've seen generally seem to have more people supporting it than against it.

(Sorry again if this is an ignorant question lol)
Its because of bulma stating the universe has an edge, even though she has no actual knowledge of the true scope of the universe, which she is called out on. Bulma isn't even the smartest person on earth either.
 
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