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Satoru Gojo (The Honored One) Vs Makima (The Control Devil) (Jujutsu Kaisen Vs Chainsaw Man) [49-37-7]

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FinePoint said:
Didn't they use it despite serious brain damage before?
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Only a mild brain damage in a small area of the right prefrontal cortex. If it hits just at the wrong spot, Gojo will die regardless. His brain healing feat only come from his own controlled destruction of his own brain, and as I said, a small part of it.
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
Only a mild brain damage in a small area of the right prefrontal cortex. If it hits just at the wrong spot, Gojo will die regardless. His brain healing feat only come from his own controlled destruction of his own brain, and as I said, a small part of it.
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Considering its bleeding from the entire front section, middle section all the way to the back, the damage clearly isnt limited to the area you're stating.
 
Jaynic1 said:
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Considering its bleeding from the entire front section, middle section all the way to the back, the damage clearly isnt limited to the area you're stating.
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It has no reason to bleeds that much (like physically not possible) because Gojo was just destroying the area in the right prefrontal cortex. Even if it is, it doesn't matter if the hit area is the 39% safe zone of the brain that causes only a mild inconvenience.

Either a visual inconsistencies for dramatic effect, or Gojo got lucky with that 39% chance.
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
Only a mild brain damage in a small area of the right prefrontal cortex. If it hits just at the wrong spot, Gojo will die regardless. His brain healing feat only come from his own controlled destruction of his own brain, and as I said, a small part of it.
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The right prefrontal cortex is not a small area of the brain dawg. It's like, damn near 1/5 of the brain.
Acertainbcplayer said:
It has no reason to bleeds that much (like physically not possible) because Gojo was just destroying the area in the right prefrontal cortex. Even if it is, it doesn't matter if the hit area is the 39% safe zone of the brain that causes only a mild inconvenience.

Either a visual inconsistencies for dramatic effect, or Gojo got lucky with that 39% chance.
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Orrrr the visual is just valid and means he suffered a lot of brain damage. Idk why you are quick to dismiss it as an inconsistency or dramatic effect when the whole point of the visual is to showcase the damage his brain is suffering as a result. He's literally destroying a giant chunk of his brain and regenerating it. It bleeding a lot is to be expected. The author doesn't know how much a real brain bleeds, so he put as much seems reasonable for such a serious injury.
 
LaserPrecision said:
The right prefrontal cortex is not a small area of the brain dawg. It's like, damn near 1/5 of the brain.

Orrrr the visual is just valid and means he suffered a lot of brain damage. Idk why you are quick to dismiss it as an inconsistency or dramatic effect when the whole point of the visual is to showcase the damage his brain is suffering as a result. He's literally destroying a giant chunk of his brain and regenerating it. It bleeding a lot is to be expected. The author doesn't know how much a real brain bleeds, so he put as much seems reasonable for such a serious injury.
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Giant chunk? Then why the brain looks fine to me? Sukuna said that it's "around" the right prefrontal cortex, NOT the right prefrontal cortex itself (which is only like 5-10% only too dawg), that part serves many functions so Gojo might be lucky that it didn't damaged any important part.

Gojo is still a dang human, what y'all think he is? A monster? He'll die over a bad hit in his brain regardless of how many harmless part of it he healed.
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
It has no reason to bleeds that much (like physically not possible) because Gojo was just destroying the area in the right prefrontal cortex. Even if it is, it doesn't matter if the hit area is the 39% safe zone of the brain that causes only a mild inconvenience.

Either a visual inconsistencies for dramatic effect, or Gojo got lucky with that 39% chance.
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Its not like gojo was doing precise brain surgery, like kuskabe said the brain is an unknown especially so when it comes to cursed techniques. So he didnt know the exact extent he needed to damage. Its also fact that gojo damaged more than the right prefrontal cortex, we literally have an image of his brain bleeding from more areas than that.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
No wait I checked. Ebihara never voted gojo. Where did you get 23 votes too
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Aww, an additional person voted Makima though.
Shadowslaya! said:
Makima FRA. Gojo barely has a chance of winning this.
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Never mind! we got an additional vote, now we actually just need 1 more vote to start incon grace.
LaserPrecision said:
The problem is it doesn't take several seconds for EVERY person to die she uses it on. Some instantly die on the spot. Some take a few seconds. Also are they incapacitated or killed? You were just saying that it killed every person she used it on, but now it's incapacitated?

Same thing as before. Some of the people in the anime clip die instantly as blood bursts from their eyes and nose.

This doesn't really tell me how it's superior when Darkness Devil's reaction to it was less violent than the reaction of people affected by her stares.

I stated numerous times. Him destroying an entire chunk of his brain to regenerate it to recover his technique. He can fight with an entire chunk of his brain destroyed. Hakari remained conscious through his brain being actively blown up after literal lightning traveled through it. A hemorrhage I'm doubtful with affect Gojo in any meaningful way.
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I used both terms harmoniously because they were practically left for dead once placed in herniation, assuming we're doing this from a medical standpoint instead of a visual or fictional one.

They don’t die instantly. They take a few seconds to look shocked before they drop dead by a fictional standpoint, incapacitated by a real world medical standpoint.

The best way I can put it is: Makima aims, and blood jets simultaneously from all eight mouths lining the Darkness Devil’s torso, leaving him incapable of fighting back for a few seconds while slumped over in a pool of blood. Keep in mind, all the other Primal Fears have been able to fight with their bodies being ripped apart. The Darkness Devil didn’t even get to fight back, he was just staggered. Compare that with the stare: one cranial artery bursts, a bit of red blood dribbles out and the human keels over. Less thrashing =/= less damage, the devil just doesn’t feel pain like a human.

When Gojo burns out his own brain to reset the 0.2 second RCT* loop, he singes a piece of the prefrontal cortex which is a region he can afford to lose for half a heartbeat and then immediately knits it back with RCT. There's no arteries rupture, intracranial pressure never spikes and his brain stem, thalamus and Circle of Willis stay untouched. That’s nothing like a deep midline arterial blowout, which floods every cistern of the skull in milliseconds.

If the "bio stare" in this case either ruptures the internal carotid or basilar artery or raises intracranial pressure to herniation levels and chemically shuts down the medulla. Then breathing stops and cardiac reflexes flatline. Without blood flow and oxygen, Gojo’s neurons go electrically silent in about 6 -10 seconds, well before any RCT can fire up.

Hakari's regen could’ve simply prevented too much damage from being done. He still had normal cranial perfusion and intact brainstem reflexes as well as jackpot cranking out limitless CE for 4 mins.
 
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Acertainbcplayer said:
Giant chunk? Then why the brain looks fine to me? Sukuna said that it's "around" the right prefrontal cortex, NOT the right prefrontal cortex itself (which is only like 5-10% only too dawg), that part serves many functions so Gojo might be lucky that it didn't damaged any important part.

Gojo is still a dang human, what y'all think he is? A monster? He'll die over a bad hit in his brain regardless of how many harmless part of it he healed.
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Note that this is the state of his brain AFTER he heals the damage with rct 5 times, there isnt a depiction of gojo's brain after he destroyed sections of it but before healing the damage.
 
Acertainbcplayer said:
Giant chunk? Then why the brain looks fine to me? Sukuna said that it's "around" the right prefrontal cortex, NOT the right prefrontal cortex itself (which is only like 5-10% only too dawg), that part serves many functions so Gojo might be lucky that it didn't damaged any important part.

Gojo is still a dang human, what y'all think he is? A monster? He'll die over a bad hit in his brain regardless of how many harmless part of it he healed.
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The brain is completely drenched in blood to the point it isn't even visible. If that looks fine to you, I don't want to know what a ****** up brain looks like.

Don't try to appeal to common sense. This is a fictional story. Sure he's a regular human. That doesn't matter when he's shown to continue fighting while his brain is bleeding like a broken faucet and you have characters also staying conscious while their brain is blowing up inside their head.
 
LaserPrecision said:
The brain is completely drenched in blood to the point it isn't even visible. If that looks fine to you, I don't want to know what a ****** up brain looks like.

Don't try to appeal to common sense. This is a fictional story. Sure he's a regular human. That doesn't matter when he's shown to continue fighting while his brain is bleeding like a broken faucet and you have characters also staying conscious while their brain is blowing up inside their head.
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Headcanon dawg
 
LaserPrecision said:
I mean unless you can prove a different biology or larger biology inherently makes someone less receptive to her bio hax (Which honestly seems like it'd be the opposite to me since Darkness Devil prolly has several brains to inflict damage to), I don't see why this point matters. You've said the "point" is superior to the stare, but have yet to really elaborate why. The only feat it has is affecting Darkness Devil less than her stare affected humans. Though the point is, if Darkness Devil can survive it but merely go down for a few seconds, than Gojo who's shown to fight through worse brain injuries without any hindrance to fighting, then Gojo's not going to be falling to his knees as a result of it. Let alone knock him out.
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It's superior because with a literal pinch of the Darkness Devil's power, Santa Claus can insta-regen having her brain turned into sawdust while in darkness.

Makima fought the Darkness Devil in the dark where it's constantly regenerating, and despite that she caused lasting damage for a period of time.

To put it another way, Makima staggered a being that has no problem restoring its whole body after turning itself into a puddle.
 
ElajRuengies said:
It's superior because with a literal pinch of the Darkness Devil's power, Santa Claus can insta-regen having her brain turned into sawdust while in darkness.

Makima fought the Darkness Devil in the dark where it's constantly regenerating, and despite that she caused lasting damage for a period of time.

To put it another way, Makima staggered a being that has no problem restoring its whole body after turning itself into a puddle.
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I completely forgot the Darkness Devil enhances his regen in the darkness as well. So basically, near instant regen, with enhanced regen on top of that, plus invulnerability. Stuff has levels.
 
GunshyFever said:
I used both terms harmoniously because they were practically left for dead once placed in herniation, assuming we're doing this from a medical standpoint instead of a visual or fictional one.

They don’t die instantly. They take a few seconds to look shocked before they drop dead by a fictional standpoint, incapacitated by a real world medical standpoint.
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In the anime clip you literally sent, several of the people die instantly as jets of blood sprayed out of their nose and eyes. Some of them dripped blood from their nose, noticed it, and then died.
GunshyFever said:
The best way I can put it is: Makima aims, and blood jets simultaneously from all eight mouths lining the Darkness Devil’s torso, leaving him incapable of fighting back for a few seconds while slumped over in a pool of blood. Keep in mind, all the other Primal Fears have been able to fight with their bodies being ripped apart. The Darkness Devil didn’t even get to fight back, he was just staggered. Compare that with the stare: one cranial artery bursts, a bit of red blood dribbles out and the human keels over. Less thrashing =/= less damage, the devil just doesn’t feel pain like a human.
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Primal Fears being able to fight effectively with their bodies being ripped apart =/= can fight well with their brain taking damage tbf.
GunshyFever said:
When Gojo burns out his own brain to reset the 0.2 second Limitless loop, he singes a piece of the prefrontal cortex which is a region he can afford to lose for half a heartbeat and then immediately knits it back with RCT. There's no arteries rupture, intracranial pressure never spikes and his brain stem, thalamus and Circle of Willis stay untouched. That’s nothing like a deep midline arterial blowout, which floods every cistern of the skull in milliseconds.

If the hit either ruptures the internal carotid or basilar artery or raises intracranial pressure to herniation levels and chemically shuts down the medulla. Then breathing stops and cardiac reflexes flatline. Without blood flow and oxygen, Gojo’s neurons go electrically silent in about 6 -10 seconds, well before any RCT can fire up.

Hakari's regen could’ve simply prevented too much damage from being done. He still had normal cranial perfusion and intact brainstem reflexes as well as jackpot cranking out limitless CE for 4 mins.
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Gojo's brain literally leaks blood like a broken faucet from all over. Not just the prefrontal cortex.

If RCT can heal Gojo from millions of slashes per second, healing within milliseconds is childsplay. I don't know what else to say here except that this is effectively all the time in the world for Gojo to heal. Especially when he can RCT while unconscious and dying.

Well now it seems like you're backpedaling after agreeing this was a far more severe injury than what Makima inflicts. But I don't really want to address that again. It's quite clear it starts blowing up his brain, but he stops it with RCT and by blowing Kashimo's CE out of his nose. Which also spurts out a lot of blood.
ElajRuengies said:
It's superior because with a literal pinch of the Darkness Devil's power, Santa Claus can insta-regen having her brain turned into sawdust while in darkness.

Makima fought the Darkness Devil in the dark where it's constantly regenerating, and despite that she caused lasting damage for a period of time.

To put it another way, Makima staggered a being that has no problem restoring its whole body after turning itself into a puddle.
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Then shouldn't see have limited regeneration negation?
 
Why are we talking Bio Hax as if Makima wouldn't combust the second Gojo uses Infinite Void?
 
LaserPrecision said:
In the anime clip you literally sent, several of the people die instantly as jets of blood sprayed out of their nose and eyes. Some of them dripped blood from their nose, noticed it, and then died.

Primal Fears being able to fight effectively with their bodies being ripped apart =/= can fight well with their brain taking damage tbf.

Gojo's brain literally leaks blood like a broken faucet from all over. Not just the prefrontal cortex.

If RCT can heal Gojo from millions of slashes per second, healing within milliseconds is childsplay. I don't know what else to say here except that this is effectively all the time in the world for Gojo to heal. Especially when he can RCT while unconscious and dying.

Well now it seems like you're backpedaling after agreeing this was a far more severe injury than what Makima inflicts. But I don't really want to address that again. It's quite clear it starts blowing up his brain, but he stops it with RCT and by blowing Kashimo's CE out of his nose. Which also spurts out a lot of blood.

Then shouldn't see have limited regeneration negation?
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Broken faucet huh? Then watch this! (Wait I'm bouta type them out)
 
LaserPrecision said:
Then shouldn't see have limited regeneration negation?
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Then this entire thread would get removed in a matter of days after being added when that CRT is complete.

I could make it right now, but I'd need you guys to help me get it accepted, right now, or hope some angel brings use to incon grace to by time.

Will respond to your other point's in a moment, my food just came.
 
At some point the pages just become so much that there's a level of anonymity to it. Like who fr is going to be reading through all 25 pages to come to their own verdict?
 
GunshyFever said:
Then this entire thread would get removed in a matter of days after being added when that CRT is complete.

I could make it right now, but I'd need you guys to help me get it accepted, right now, or hope some angel brings use to incon grace to by time.

Will respond to your other point's in a moment, my food just came.
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Why would it get removed
 
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