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All in all, do you all agree then that WoD, through that "all possible/conceivable layers" of 1-A(+). And then the Meta-extension High 1-A smurf hax, is the most powerful in "1-A"?
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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier
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There's Lord of the Rings who are just straight up having Tier 0 resistances, but idrk if there are those who are 1-A in that verse in the first place because these Tier 0 resistances stuff includes everyone that's within Ea
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They can only have up to High 1-A+ (Type 2) stuff without being a Tier 0, that's the whole point.
And even then... that's just for their soul. They have nothing else against WoD
And even then... that's just for their soul. They have nothing else against WoD
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Nah, souls are inviolable under a law made by Eru themselves (even to Eru), but it doesn't stop them from losing to WoD, so
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Why is Skirk a better option since she doesn't have Ley Lines Manip or Archon Physiology?
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Casual Omnipotence Paradox, but even then thats for a CRT and who knows how that'll function in the tiering system with Tier 0 rules.
But yeah either way. WoD beyond clears. And genuinely should be No. 1
Do you agree @Setsuna_tenma?
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Is that not just the rules of the verse?
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Most of her abyssal power are passive with active leyline manip (iirc she has that too), plus archons leyline manip stuff isnt combat applicable, tho if you have better reason to put mavuika there im fine with it
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Well I know that Leylines is for High Level Abyssal Energy, but Skirk's profile doesn't really specify what level she's at so I just assumed she had the basics and nothing else. I'm not against Skirk being the 5-B Rep in Genshin, I'm just curious as to why Mavuika's Archon Stuff, Ley Lines Manip and Type 2 Info isn't combat applicable?
I just say this as someone whose not really a verse supporter, just from an outsiders perspective, Mavuika looks to have the more impressive profile?
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Remove Shallow Vernal from Low 1-C, she got upgraded to 1-C.
Also if I am not mistaken, characters from A Wild Last Boss Appeared should be 4th at 1-A, idk about 3rd, guess it depends on if they can kill Hypnos and Yog before they use their ritual or ascend, though Hypnos has type 5 acausality, so idk, #4 is fine for now.
Also if I am not mistaken, characters from A Wild Last Boss Appeared should be 4th at 1-A, idk about 3rd, guess it depends on if they can kill Hypnos and Yog before they use their ritual or ascend, though Hypnos has type 5 acausality, so idk, #4 is fine for now.
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I think 3rd is fine, they should blitz the hell out of those guys from what I see. Their hax especially are not doing anything..and hypnos slowly ascends? Them being a higher R>F should make the acaus 5 not matter much unless it's smurf I would guess?
But ignoring that if he even does reach high 1-A he'll go insane? Idk, I think them as third is fine. Alovenus like can exist in the same space and the opponent just dies
But ignoring that if he even does reach high 1-A he'll go insane? Idk, I think them as third is fine. Alovenus like can exist in the same space and the opponent just dies
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If I recall correctly, isn't most of Cthulhu Mythos and cosmology getting revised rn? With it being heavily nerfed
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Well, hypnos does look outdated for this system so maybe that's the case. Maybe should be removed, similar to Goddess of manifold (but she is getting buffed instead)
Makes a wild last boss being 3rd even more solid I guess
Makes a wild last boss being 3rd even more solid I guess
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Yang Kai (Martial Peak) deserves to take the 1-A spot over the Ergen verse, as both share a similar baseline, but the Ergen verse lacks any clear interaction with NEP2 or AC5 concepts.
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He can't actually do anything to the characters at said level given they resist everything he has with more than enough layers, so no
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Do any Ergen characters have Transduality (Type 2). Cus if not, they literally can not do anything.
- Transduality (Type 2), Nonexistent Physiology(Nature Type 2, Aspects 1, 2, 3 & 5 [Myriad Grand Dao]; Yang Kai absorbed Mu's Space-Time River, which is a condensation of all Grand Daos. Mu's Space-Time River is akin to the Universe Furnace's transcendence over all things, which would include the Grand Dao of Yin and Yang. The Grand Dao of Yin and the Grand Dao of Yang can be expressed as a single Grand Dao, just as much as it could be two separate Grand Daos. The Grand Dao of Yin and Yang divides into the Five Elements, which then gives rise to the Myraid Grand Daos. Cultivators use the Daos of Yin and Yang and the Five Elements as the foundation of their Dao Seal to promote to the Open Heaven Realm. The Mytiad Drand Dao are concepts that are source of everything in the World. Yang Kai's Space-Time River has evolved into a Chaos River and absorbed the Chaos River into his own body, merging with it.)
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If it's about WoD then yeah, 4th step cultivators have type 2 transduality and 5th step people transcend them
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Oh no no, not about WoD. Cus umm… do I need to explain?
I mean Yang Kai vs Ergenverse
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Ah, yeah no they can't interact with Yang Kai (for now) due to the NEP and Aca, they both just stare at each other without being able to do anything, though I don't know if the rule we have about stonewalls would apply to Kai or not considering that if he didn't have that he would die, but shrug, them sharing the spot would be fine
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Then yeah if they are completely inconned, then sharing the exact same spot is fine.
Assuming they are completely equal in Layers of 1-A right?
Like Example: both are 10 Layers above Baseline 1-A
Assuming they are completely equal in Layers of 1-A right?
Like Example: both are 10 Layers above Baseline 1-A
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Both are currently 1 layer above 1-A
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Really wish more verses put Stats Values or even Scaling Chains of where people scale, to prevent confusion/unawareness.
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I could argue it, I won't, and it doesn't matter anyways, Ergen can't interact with Yang Kai, Yang Kai can't hax Ergen, its an incon through and through
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Is Nyarlathotep baseline 1-A?
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She has 1 layer I think
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Dang, a lot of 1-A (1 Layer)
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Baseline
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Change.org petition for putting Statistics Values for how characters scale in 1-A plz...
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Put Transendence at 13th place in 1-A.
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I feel like "Characters from DC Comics" should be put rather high on 1-A, probably top 4 or even 3
Considering they exist in the "Sixth Dimension" which is accepted as 1-A+. Specifically as "Uncountably Infinite Qualitative Layers above 1-A", so above normal 1-A+ which is just "Countably Infinite...". I think this applies too to Marvel Comics.
You can ask all this to the boi GoofyToddler, who has revised both Marvel and DC Comics Cosmology.
Considering they exist in the "Sixth Dimension" which is accepted as 1-A+. Specifically as "Uncountably Infinite Qualitative Layers above 1-A", so above normal 1-A+ which is just "Countably Infinite...". I think this applies too to Marvel Comics.
You can ask all this to the boi GoofyToddler, who has revised both Marvel and DC Comics Cosmology.
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Idk how much yog is into 1A+. Or if they can kill hypnos quick enough, probably can if they exist at 1-A+. Idk what the characters have tho. If they are also outdated idk how much what I said even matters for 4th.
As for 3rd, they are beyond uncountable infinite layers
As for 3rd, they are beyond uncountable infinite layers
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Unf the Cthulhu pages are absolutely outdated as hell.
But considering that the verse is being revised and being nerfed, with the Outer Gods being "Unquantifiable Qualitative Layers" into 1-A. I do think 4th is Super safe, "Characters from both DC and Marvel Comics"
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But considering that the verse is being revised and being nerfed, with the Outer Gods being "Unquantifiable Qualitative Layers" into 1-A. I do think 4th is Super safe, "Characters from both DC and Marvel Comics"
Lovecraft Revision (Why Not And I Can’t Trust Anyone Else)
Yeah, this verse is cool and all but the tiering is outdated. Sadly, my original thread was not compatible because it contains more than “20 Images” which I didn't have such a problem with the Unsong thread. Instead, I had to use that draft as a blog...
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I see, looks like outergods 1A, yog being tier 0 or something along those lines. No idea where that leaves hypnos, but I'm sure he's affected by the changes somehow
But 4th may be fine
But 4th may be fine
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Hypnos is farrr below the Outer Gods. Honestly, Yog and Azathoth might be regular High 1-A as crazy as that is to say. But Hypnos and Umr a Tawil (Yog in 1-A) will just be replaced in the List for "Outer Gods" by then... If only Mods can at least cast their votes.
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