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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

It's not negating heat in a sense. It's a barrier made out of projected Haki. Haki is not something that can be burned. It's an energy system. It's not a physical thing with matter that can be melted away. I've told you what you needed, I'm not sure what else you're looking for.
Does air pass through Haki ?
If so heat aura would get through.
 
That phrasing sounds like an NLF. A barrier isn't necessarily immune to heat just because it's not flammable.
Ok so would haki protect them from something that scales immensely higher than 2x their listed resistance ?
 
If the heat has shown capabilities of interacting with a spiritual energy system similar to Haki in a verse-equal scenario then sure, but Heat can not burn something that doesn't even have matter.
You don't need to burn something for heat to pass through it. Haki does allow one to resist heat, and stronger Haki can resist more heat as seen with Sanji in Wano but Haki doesn't negate heat completely.
 
You don't need to burn something for heat to pass through it. Haki does allow one to resist heat, and stronger Haki can resist more heat as seen with Sanji in Wano but Haki doesn't negate heat completely.
Regular Buso yes, not for Buso Emission though. Heat doesn't pass through its barrier.
 
Regular Buso yes, not for Buso Emission though. Heat doesn't pass through its barrier.
I don't agree. That's like saying no amount of projected energy could get through the barrier, so Haki barriers are invulnerable and have unlimited durability unless the energy beam user has shown interaction with spiritual stuff in their verse.
 
I don't agree. That's like saying no amount of projected energy could get through the barrier, so Haki barriers are invulnerable and have unlimited durability unless the energy beam user has shown interaction with spiritual stuff in their verse.
Well no not necessarily. My point is that heat specifically has shown that to be something that can't interact with projected Haki, as Luffy is quite literally extending himself so that he isn't what is touching it.

If the heat has enough power backing it, for example, it could break through and melt the person behind it. But high temperatures alone isn't a counter to projected Haki.
 
I'm not sure why you think that any ordinary heat can't interact with projected Haki at all. Yes, the heat isn't directly touching Luffy himself first, but Haki hasn't been shown to flat-out stop all levels of heat.

And it doesn't solve the issue that for passive heat in the area, the heat would just go around the barrier. Haki emission hasn't been shown to work like an omnidirectional forcefield all around the user.
 
I'm not sure why you think that any ordinary heat can't interact with projected Haki at all. Yes, the heat isn't directly touching Luffy himself first, but Haki hasn't been shown to flat-out stop all levels of heat.

And it doesn't solve the issue that for passive heat in the area, the heat would just go around the barrier. Haki emission hasn't been shown to work like an omnidirectional forcefield all around the user.
It has though?


Zoro also used Buso omnidirectionally to defend against King's massive explosion.

Luffy noted that Hao can be coated the same with that Buso Emission is, and we know that Hao coating can be used on the entire body.
 
I just thought of something: How come Yamato in base doesn't scale to Momo's 6-A calc even though he blocked an attack from Hybrid Kaido meant to kill Dragon Momo? He could even hurt Dragon Momo with a kanabo bonk to the head.
 
.... Zoro would low-mid diff Kizaru, especially if Zoro is serious trying to go for the kill and or is using KOH

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Zoro easily has the speed and power... The only problem he would have is if kizaru is just flying away and trying to tire out Zoro from afar... Which I don't think would matter in the end because of Zoro's ranged slashes
 
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Bro thinks Kizaru is Kaido...

Zoro already equally clashed with one of the elders and they are superior to Kizaru, stop with the bias
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You guys always downplay the strawhats in terms of how strong they actually are now currently in the verse.
 
I think that it depends on which Gorosei we are talking about. The spider and worm youkai would likely have been comparative fodder without their regeneration saving them from easily having their bodies destroyed, whereas Warcury (the gigantic firebreathing pig) seemed to be even stronger than Kaidou even without regeneration, and the skeleton horse and the "pterodactyl" seemed to be somewhere in-between. And Figarland Garling will probably be even stronger than Warcury after his power-up with giant youkai powers. 🙏
 
I would probably subjectively rate the Gorosei like this in terms of power: Figarland Garling (Likely second only to Imu and original Joyboy)>Warcury (Apparently stronger than Kaido, given that Nika form Luffy could not hurt him)>Nusjuru (Likely admiral level or above given his Pacifista feat)>Mars (Unknown)>Ju Peter (Was easily chopped in half by Dory and Brogy)>Saturn (Had his body effortlessly destroyed by Luffy and nearly destroyed by Kuma). 🙏
 
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Saturn is bigger than Kizaru
does not matter, it's still relative... Luffy is as big as saturn

If Saturn with his size can handle gear 5 and kizaru can't... That still proves he's superior, Still a fact... Doesn't matter the advantage (That's like saying giants aren't stronger than other normal human soldiers because they are big)

Zoro while being smaller could equally clash with one.
 
Warcury (Apparently stronger than Kaido, given that Nika form Luffy could not hurt him)
And both Dory and Brogy overpowered his attack
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It's only his durability that was strong, it never went against luffy using adv con haki so he isn't confirmed more durable than kaido

Ju Peter (Was easily chopped in half by Dory and Brogy)
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Easily overpowered gear 5 luffy from just sucking (😶‍🌫️I see you) (the disrespect from luffy here tho is actually insane 😅 never really noticed or paid that much attention, probably because I'm viewing them as "monsters" instead of this guy)

They just all have different main strengths but otherwise they are still all relative to each other in some way
 
Well, maybe you are right. For example, Saturn seemed to have powerful non-physical telepathic abilities that the others haven't demonstrated. 🙏
 
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