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NEP Minds by default update when?
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Lego Monkie Kid Verse Fixing
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metaphysics hax its so gg for vsbw 
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Are yall mocking me or...metaphysics hax its so gg for vsbw
Also, don't derail the thread
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I just think its funny to claim minds are unbound by dimensionality
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It's just the current state of vsbw rn, no one can really say anything about the thread when everything pretty much is confusing
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just the vsbw system turning into nerdy stuff that requires you to have direct talk with plato himself to understand shit.
Wont comment after this (probably) but yeah everything else is fine and for the mind hax ill leave it for hax experts
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If Sun Wukong’s mind is tied to his power, it would make both his power and mind 4D. Him resisting the concentrated mind hax of the Scroll of memory further supports the mechanism of his smurf capacity.
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Oh well mbIt's just the current state of vsbw rn, no one can really say anything about the thread when everything pretty much is confusing
alright
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Yes, 3D = 20D Mind. Sounds very logical
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Minds aren't physical. They don't have dimensions. It isn't hard to understand. If you need more proof read this
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So a 3D being can mind hax a 8D being according to you?
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The only reason he wouldn't be able to is the range, that's it.
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How does it make sense for lower dimensional beings to be able to affect higher dimensional ones?
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If they have the range to affect them then sure. Also I don't think you checked the link, which includes official wiki policy.
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Durability (and physical stats) get upscaled depending on the dimensionality. Minds, and other fundamental aspect, doesn't.
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Because they are Non-Physical? If so, why can't I apply this logic to any Non-physical beings?
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Wait so, how does Honkai Star Rail characters qualify having 12D mind smurf resist? (Unless I miss something about the verse)
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cosmo page.
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Because they are aspects (and "things") that are independent of dimensions. However, they aren't independent of quality (hence why you can have smurf concept manipulation or smurf X manipulation).
Ghost technically (unless stated otherwise) aren't bound by dimensions, either. They could technically possess anyone under 1-A (given the range/no resistance) for example.
Folly.
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ill panch the next person who brings up hsr in threads that have ******* 0 relevance to it, either argue whats proposed here, or argue fjcking hax standards or derail this into oblivion
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Are you saying this because honkai characters having 12D mind smurf is false?
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Isn't the whole counter argument based on the fact the Mind Hax has 4D range? Where is it shown to begin with?
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Old standards ig. I don't know, I'd need to have the context and frankly, I don't want to have anything to do with Hoyoverse stuff.
However, that could very well be range and work fine.
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I didn't follow the OP, just checked what MGQwanker explained about smurf hax and agreed with it. Point is, you can't have smurf potency for mind manip unless it's 1-A, could be fine with range tho.
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Oh I was planning to do something with Bleach bout it but I'll wait till the mind dimensional thing is solved
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Even if the Mind hax had 4D Range, it would legit still stay as smurf?
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If Wukong's mind affect reality in a 4D range, then I don't see why the proposal is bad
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I don't know how one would index it on a profile, frankly, but if the character is 3D and can "affect a range that is beyond his own" ig that falls into smurf? Idk.
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I mean 3D characters with resistance would still resist it. It would just be smurf in range and not in mind hax right?
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Yeah, any amount of resistance > smurf range.
So it just means he has a sligthly bigger range.
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It’d be Smurf range but it wouldn’t bypass resistances.
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There doesn’t even seem to be any Smurf range either since they’re affecting very obviously 3-D people
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Has this been addressed?
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Never knew the multiverse was 3D
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Where did you get the idea that they’re only 3D?
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If Wukong's 4D powers are tied to his mind, then its should be normally impossible for him, as a 3D being to affect a 4D being
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Doesn't work like this, but he would probably get a resistance tho, yeah.
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It’s not really a smurf thing either. I mean it’s quite literally impossible to have a 4-D Smurf potency mind. The “concentration” thing here is also pretty weak since it has to specifically be concentrating your power to bypass resistances. Its just a supposedly 4-D dude using his power on some 3-D guys and not him concentrating his power to bypass resistances.
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Where the proof he isn't concentrating his powers?
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So you're postulating Wukong's mind as something physical, right?
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