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Should add that Milim had trouble destroying that big tree which was protected by Veldanavas power.
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TenSura LN Major Misleading Revision - Part 3 (Revised)
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And now I believe we have reached the line where this conversation can potentially get -so very, very, VERY troublesome-.
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Can you please stop making unnecessary comments?
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Haven't gotten many of the ones I actually contributed to the conversation to responded towards, this is simply one. Relax.
Edit: P.S, it's called reading the vibes.
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Btw. Why don’t you just use the fact that Milim destroyed the universe? My friend who knows Japanese is translating vol 22.
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I swear to god, please tell me that friend is not Astral, and please make sure it's not mtl...
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Astral doesn’t know Japanese. Idk why you keep bringing him up. And no it isn’t mtl. Tho I will have to ask him to translate the part for milim since he has only translated prologue and chapter 1 since he is busy
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Just drop the kanji and let people get vsbw to translate it if they want.
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Even if there was an official translation of Volume 22, I don't think it's possible to downscaling from Veldanava, Ivaraj (Volume 22), Rimuru (Volume 21), Milim (Stampede), Feldway (True Form), Diablo (Volume 22).
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I don’t see what you are trying to say.
Rimuru scales to creation of the world tens of thousands of times>Milim can hurt him and was able to destroy the universe>guy fought a stronger Milim>velzard and rudra both fought guy>chloe is stated to be = to rudra and guy. And literally everyone downscales from Chloe.we still have feldway statement from vol 21 as well right?
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I mostly agree with the thread for the time being, however though I'm probably leaning towards Low 2-C more when Vol 21 and 22 are completely translated (Which would take months), since those two volumes contains apparently almost all of the justifications for Low 2-C (If I understand this properly).
Translating just the part where it mentions universe, etc, they could do yeah but I'm not fully convinced enough unless all the contexts are given because how verses use the term universe, galaxy, solar system, star system, stars and planets and more (worlds) are just too vague.
At that point, we'll just be debating whether galaxy (for example) actually refers to star system and it becomes an unending debate, but that's just my take on it since I've encountered similar cases back with the verse that I'm knowledgeable about.
Translating just the part where it mentions universe, etc, they could do yeah but I'm not fully convinced enough unless all the contexts are given because how verses use the term universe, galaxy, solar system, star system, stars and planets and more (worlds) are just too vague.
At that point, we'll just be debating whether galaxy (for example) actually refers to star system and it becomes an unending debate, but that's just my take on it since I've encountered similar cases back with the verse that I'm knowledgeable about.
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If volume 21 and 22 has moments and statements that prove Low-2-C, why not just translate those parts? I don't think the entire volume needs to be fan translated here, no?
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Will you translate it? There are like 3 scans only, but it is pretty long. Basically 2 pages. Tho I believe 2 were translated already
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Not that the entire volume needs to be translated here when we could wait even if it'll take months, if someone is willing enough to provide all the contexts and where they mention the term that supports Low 2-C as a whole. That'll work, assuming no one somehow manages to point out the inconsistencies like this term is actually that, or this term isn't actually like that but that's just a debate for later imo and mostly those things happening are just an assumption (for now).
I still lean to Low 2-C when Vol 21 and Vol 22 are translated especially all the mentions about "Universe" and see which one is usable and could be used for the justifications.
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I wouldn't mind, send it to translation thread though :d
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Alr. Time to waste my translation request for the next three days
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Post in thread 'Official Translation Requests Thread (New forum)'
https://vsbattles.com/threads/official-translation-requests-thread-new-forum.107531/post-7075915
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...Are you sure there is something that proves Low 2-C there?
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With other context yeah. Some of them were also just to prove the durability of the world tho
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Not sure how 3. and 4. does...
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3 & 4 were translated as a star system. So I was going to use that as evidence of the planet being able to take damage on that level easily. Meaning other feats that actually do that amount of damage have to scale above (those weren’t for tier 2
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I don't think this supports universal size at all. It could be multi solar at the very very best. (Though i don't even know the topic, so maybe it does help it :d)
I thought you sent the wrong lines :d
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What? Solar System level Planet???
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What? every planet in fiction?
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i think he mean using 3 & 4 to prove that planet in the verse have Solar System level
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Multi-Solar, actually.
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Not sure if that'd even work, nor i understand how it'd help for universal size... (not that my understanding matters lmao)
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Feel as if we're getting away from a bit of the main topic though with who exactly this thread is supposed to be about.
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the main topics done (which are about zolario and velgrynd as well as the proof for 2-C here since the former character is kind of the benchmark) and then move on from there about what to do
Code said they hadn't believed in Zolario being 2-C anymore due to things about ivaraj, so if anyone else agrees with that portion..
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:PrimeHydra64/Velgrynd_made_a_universe, I made a blog post about how velgrynd made a universe around the flagship. Both Slime Reader and YenPress translate it to alternate universe as well as it has been used in context to refer to other universes that being worlds.
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I'm so glad this doesn't just happen with HoYoverse lmao
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Doesn't this trace back to the comment Elde made earlier
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Depends since otherworld could mean subspace or an another universe but wouldn't affect the validity of the fact that she made a construction that is at the bare minimum low 2-c and I doubt that it is referring to subspace since it shows up late in the volume. Side Note: it also has its own laws
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I guess it's not usable even if we agree some floors has that much range size.
Besides the quarter skill had range to likely swallow up Solar system and Ramiris Dimension can hold that down but would have damaged many floors. Which surpassed Velgrynd DC.
So it's not logical to think every floor has same size.
I think you are mixing two different scenarios. It's not about whether characters can destroy a dimension or not. It's about whether, in this context, the said character actually destroyed the dimensions, which I don't see. You are trying to mix examples of characters shown destroying pocket dimensions with the idea that other characters should therefore be capable of destroying universe-sized dimensions.
Both Carrera and Velgrynd had the necessity to destroy dimensions, but why would Zorario do that? You need to explain. I already posted the scan where the Mystics were planning an invasion of other universes, not that they were trying to destroy them mindlessly. Especially since Zorario is not shown to be some crazy guy who goes around destroying dimensions for fun.
I guess the kanji is used for 3 different scenarios
- Subspace
- Universes/Worlds existing in Subspace
- Pocket dimension created by Velgrynd
I already posted the Yuuki statement. It states probably one world, One universe. Implying it can be either. Not all Worlds existing in Subspace should be universal sized.
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Then you have around planet+ level attack nuking that dimension. So no that doesn't mean they are universal sized just because kanji used is same.
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Are you planning to answer Feldway? I think it's the third thread where Feldway's arguments (being valid) are being ignored
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Code -did- bring up because Carrera is pretty much firing a black hole that it could get calced
Edit: In case of anybody who doesn't read into this, what I said means depending on the calc it could probably be a good determining measure on what it takes to destroy that said dimension.
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That part wasn’t for universal size. It was for the people yapping about solar system level for destroying a solar system, when the planet alone can easily tank attacks of that level.
Can you translate the scans tho
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