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In this thread I would like to consider the scaling of the mid and high tier of verse.
I will split the thread into two parts - AP and Speed.
I would also like to add an Abilities item, which will expand the abilities of the verse.
I will start with the more general ones and move on to the more specific ones.
I will split the thread into two parts - AP and Speed.
Currently only 2 characters scale to 7-C, while the rest are within 8-A.
However, when compiling the scaling, I did not take into account the cross-scaling through the Dragon.
I suppose I will start with the feat of 7-C itself. It was performed by the sub-Dragon, which is just a massive kakuja of Kaneki, who ate many Oggai and their kakuhou. This is still his power, backed up by the right amount of "fuel".
In order to fully form the Dragon, Kaneki needs to absorb the core, which was in Furuta. After that, the Dragon became even larger and stronger, which began to lead to the destruction of the 24th district, as we can see on this page.
Kaneki is one of the main cores of the Dragon and when it was extracted, most of the Dragon simply began to disintegrate, because Kaneki was the main source of its energy. This is why we scale it above the 7-C value.
As we can see, individual tentacles of the Dragon are capable of causing damage to Kaneki, which scales them above 7-C.
In Chapter 148, we learn that Suzuya actively fought the Dragon, being in an extremely uncomfortable position and survived this fight.
Thus, he scales to 7-C, which then entails the scaling of such characters as: Arima, Eto, Takizawa, Amon.
Also, the revision will affect Eto's 8-A feat, which was performed when she was weakened by RC depressants and received only 1 lunchbox with meat to restore her strength. As we know in Cochlea, ghouls are pumped full of RC depressants to suppress their power, keep them isolated, and destroy them when necessary. This feat was accomplished by a weakened Eto, but what does that give us?
Eto as a teenager should at least scale to this, because at that point she was already considered one of the main threats to the CCG and one of the strongest ghouls. Thus, she gets the key from 8-A to 7-C.
Yoshimura should at least scale to her teenage version, because he was able to fully replace her while pretending that he was the One-Eyed Owl all this time.
Following this, the investigators in Arata who are capable of engaging him in a prolonged fight and those who scale to them should scale to Yoshimura.
However, when compiling the scaling, I did not take into account the cross-scaling through the Dragon.
I suppose I will start with the feat of 7-C itself. It was performed by the sub-Dragon, which is just a massive kakuja of Kaneki, who ate many Oggai and their kakuhou. This is still his power, backed up by the right amount of "fuel".
In order to fully form the Dragon, Kaneki needs to absorb the core, which was in Furuta. After that, the Dragon became even larger and stronger, which began to lead to the destruction of the 24th district, as we can see on this page.
Kaneki is one of the main cores of the Dragon and when it was extracted, most of the Dragon simply began to disintegrate, because Kaneki was the main source of its energy. This is why we scale it above the 7-C value.
As we can see, individual tentacles of the Dragon are capable of causing damage to Kaneki, which scales them above 7-C.
In Chapter 148, we learn that Suzuya actively fought the Dragon, being in an extremely uncomfortable position and survived this fight.
Thus, he scales to 7-C, which then entails the scaling of such characters as: Arima, Eto, Takizawa, Amon.
Also, the revision will affect Eto's 8-A feat, which was performed when she was weakened by RC depressants and received only 1 lunchbox with meat to restore her strength. As we know in Cochlea, ghouls are pumped full of RC depressants to suppress their power, keep them isolated, and destroy them when necessary. This feat was accomplished by a weakened Eto, but what does that give us?
Eto as a teenager should at least scale to this, because at that point she was already considered one of the main threats to the CCG and one of the strongest ghouls. Thus, she gets the key from 8-A to 7-C.
Yoshimura should at least scale to her teenage version, because he was able to fully replace her while pretending that he was the One-Eyed Owl all this time.
Following this, the investigators in Arata who are capable of engaging him in a prolonged fight and those who scale to them should scale to Yoshimura.
Now let's talk about speed.
We have a few new calculations that greatly increase the speed rating of the verse.
To start with, the main speed calculation where the twins outran the bullets has been upgraded from Supersonic+ to Hypersonic+. This will scale to the low tiers because the feat was accomplished by ghouls who can't even release their kagune.
We also have the Yomo calculation, which gives a Massively Hypersonic result. This will scale to the mid tiers.
Massively Hypersonic+ calculation will only scale to the strongest members of the verse. The following characters will receive the upgrade: Post Cochlea-Kaneki, Furuta, Arima, Arata Suzuya, Takizawa and Amon.
We have a few new calculations that greatly increase the speed rating of the verse.
To start with, the main speed calculation where the twins outran the bullets has been upgraded from Supersonic+ to Hypersonic+. This will scale to the low tiers because the feat was accomplished by ghouls who can't even release their kagune.
We also have the Yomo calculation, which gives a Massively Hypersonic result. This will scale to the mid tiers.
Massively Hypersonic+ calculation will only scale to the strongest members of the verse. The following characters will receive the upgrade: Post Cochlea-Kaneki, Furuta, Arima, Arata Suzuya, Takizawa and Amon.
I would also like to add an Abilities item, which will expand the abilities of the verse.
I will start with the more general ones and move on to the more specific ones.
• One-eyed ghouls should scale up to Amon, who regenerates his head and torn chest. Their regeneration should be raised to mid, because they are also one-eyed ghouls like Amon.
• All investigators should get "Regeneration Negation" as stated in Amon's profile, based on the physiology of ghouls whose kagune secretes poison, which weakens the regeneration of ghouls.
• Particularly strong ghouls should get limited resistance to Regeneration Negation through Food Absorption, because as we can see - just one piece of flesh is enough for them to recover and go on to battle. One-eyed ghouls and kakuja should get direct resistance to regeneration negation, because they are able to instantly regenerate from attacks from kagune and quinque, even when they are especially poisonous to specific individuals. In Kaneki's case, we see that despite the fact that the quinque ripped out his kakuhou, which is the source of his energy, and that the wound was inflicted by the bikaku-kagune, which is toxic to him, just a couple of pieces of flesh were enough to overcome this and completely heal.
• Ghouls should gain Resistance to Poisons scaling up to Kaneki's BoS, who was able to overcome the effects of paralyzing gas by activating his kakugan. The effect was not completely removed due to Kaneki being injured by a quinque, which is poisonous to normal ghouls, and not eating meat at the time.
• Ghouls should gain limited resistance to Analytical Forecasting through their kagune, which is controlled by their mental commands and through the body's electrical impulses. Thus, kagune can easily change its shape and trajectory at the will of the user.
• The strongest Special Class investigators should gain superhuman accuracy, scaling up to Ui, Suzuya, and Mutsuki. Ui is able to kill an opponent standing behind him without even turning around. Suzuya is able to make precise throws at a target in free fall, taking into account the speed of its movement and calculating where the projectile will hit. Mutsuki is able to deflect multiple Kagune projectiles flying at her at high speeds with her knife throws. This should apply to characters like - Kaneki, Suzuya, Arima, Furuta.
• Arima gains increased Analytical Forecasting, being able to completely read the movements of Kaneki's chaotic attacks, as well as block the attacks of 3 experienced fighters at once without looking and doing it with one hand. This should scale to Arima himself, as well as Kaneki and Suzuya, who have reached his level.
• Suzuya gains Limited Attack Reflection, being able to deflect a volley of dozens of Kagune projectiles, deflecting them to the sides. This should also scale to Kaneki and Arima.
• Kaneki's Biological Resistance should be increased to a genetic level, because the ROS poison is capable of turning humans into ghouls, which are a different kind of creature. Kaneki himself is still genetically human after all, despite his half-ghoul physiology.
• Kaneki should gain Fear Manipulation. Mid and high tiers should gain resistance to Fear Manipulation, being able to fight Kaneki and Arima.
• Kaneki gains resistance to Biological Deconstruction via resistance to RC suppressant. RC suppressant disrupts the integrity of RC cells, causing the kagune to disintegrate. After the events of Cochlea, Kaneki's body is partially composed of kagune, however his kagune limbs do not disintegrate despite having absorbed the RC suppressor. Later we see that his entire body is now composed of kagune, giving him a wider resistance.
• Kaneki also gains limited Absorption Resistance by surviving in the body of a Dragon, which absorbs RC cells and any bodies that enter it.
• Arima gains Information Analysis, being able to foresee 645 ways to kill Kaneki in a short period of time, even though Kaneki has new abilities that he has yet to demonstrate. It also scales many times higher than Kaneki, who can analyze all the techniques of his opponents.
• Shachi and his superior characters gain resistance to Information and Analysis and Analytical Forecasting. Shachi is able to completely override Kaneki's analysis and forecasting.
• Post-Dragon Kaneki gains Power Mimicry by being able to copy the kagune of his loved ones, despite the fact that the type of kagune depends on genetics. Due to the fact that Kagune's abilities depend on turning, he should probably gain Electrical Manipulation, Force Fields,Duplication, and Pyrokinesis, which has been demonstrated by other ghouls in the series that he has encountered before.
• Ghouls should also gain resistance to Biological Manipulation,because they are able to resist ROS for a long time, which causes hypersecretion of RC cells, the formation of malignant tumors, severe pain, memory loss, bluntness of senses and paralysis. However, at elevated concentrations of ROS, kagune ghouls begin to destabilize.
• All investigators should get "Regeneration Negation" as stated in Amon's profile, based on the physiology of ghouls whose kagune secretes poison, which weakens the regeneration of ghouls.
• Particularly strong ghouls should get limited resistance to Regeneration Negation through Food Absorption, because as we can see - just one piece of flesh is enough for them to recover and go on to battle. One-eyed ghouls and kakuja should get direct resistance to regeneration negation, because they are able to instantly regenerate from attacks from kagune and quinque, even when they are especially poisonous to specific individuals. In Kaneki's case, we see that despite the fact that the quinque ripped out his kakuhou, which is the source of his energy, and that the wound was inflicted by the bikaku-kagune, which is toxic to him, just a couple of pieces of flesh were enough to overcome this and completely heal.
• Ghouls should gain Resistance to Poisons scaling up to Kaneki's BoS, who was able to overcome the effects of paralyzing gas by activating his kakugan. The effect was not completely removed due to Kaneki being injured by a quinque, which is poisonous to normal ghouls, and not eating meat at the time.
• Ghouls should gain limited resistance to Analytical Forecasting through their kagune, which is controlled by their mental commands and through the body's electrical impulses. Thus, kagune can easily change its shape and trajectory at the will of the user.
• The strongest Special Class investigators should gain superhuman accuracy, scaling up to Ui, Suzuya, and Mutsuki. Ui is able to kill an opponent standing behind him without even turning around. Suzuya is able to make precise throws at a target in free fall, taking into account the speed of its movement and calculating where the projectile will hit. Mutsuki is able to deflect multiple Kagune projectiles flying at her at high speeds with her knife throws. This should apply to characters like - Kaneki, Suzuya, Arima, Furuta.
• Arima gains increased Analytical Forecasting, being able to completely read the movements of Kaneki's chaotic attacks, as well as block the attacks of 3 experienced fighters at once without looking and doing it with one hand. This should scale to Arima himself, as well as Kaneki and Suzuya, who have reached his level.
• Suzuya gains Limited Attack Reflection, being able to deflect a volley of dozens of Kagune projectiles, deflecting them to the sides. This should also scale to Kaneki and Arima.
• Kaneki's Biological Resistance should be increased to a genetic level, because the ROS poison is capable of turning humans into ghouls, which are a different kind of creature. Kaneki himself is still genetically human after all, despite his half-ghoul physiology.
• Kaneki should gain Fear Manipulation. Mid and high tiers should gain resistance to Fear Manipulation, being able to fight Kaneki and Arima.
• Kaneki gains resistance to Biological Deconstruction via resistance to RC suppressant. RC suppressant disrupts the integrity of RC cells, causing the kagune to disintegrate. After the events of Cochlea, Kaneki's body is partially composed of kagune, however his kagune limbs do not disintegrate despite having absorbed the RC suppressor. Later we see that his entire body is now composed of kagune, giving him a wider resistance.
• Kaneki also gains limited Absorption Resistance by surviving in the body of a Dragon, which absorbs RC cells and any bodies that enter it.
• Arima gains Information Analysis, being able to foresee 645 ways to kill Kaneki in a short period of time, even though Kaneki has new abilities that he has yet to demonstrate. It also scales many times higher than Kaneki, who can analyze all the techniques of his opponents.
• Shachi and his superior characters gain resistance to Information and Analysis and Analytical Forecasting. Shachi is able to completely override Kaneki's analysis and forecasting.
• Post-Dragon Kaneki gains Power Mimicry by being able to copy the kagune of his loved ones, despite the fact that the type of kagune depends on genetics. Due to the fact that Kagune's abilities depend on turning, he should probably gain Electrical Manipulation, Force Fields,Duplication, and Pyrokinesis, which has been demonstrated by other ghouls in the series that he has encountered before.
• Ghouls should also gain resistance to Biological Manipulation,because they are able to resist ROS for a long time, which causes hypersecretion of RC cells, the formation of malignant tumors, severe pain, memory loss, bluntness of senses and paralysis. However, at elevated concentrations of ROS, kagune ghouls begin to destabilize.
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