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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

So where does the stuff with the verse tier stand?
Well, definitely multiversal AP. Infinite multi, ehhhh haven't seen sufficient evidence for that

Ignoring any tier 1 args rn.

Speed, I'm ngl I do have issues with the rela rating, though I heard that'll be addressed later.
Neutral on infinite speed
 
Not possible, highest power tier rimuru can get realistically is 2-A
Unless fuse makes rimuru connected to the All One somehow and expands on the dreamlike omnipotence statement. I don't think he will do that but he likes to pull stuff like that
 
Why? What caused the massive downgrade since as far I understand, all of the stuff for Tier 1 had been accepted?
The timeline thing
Unless fuse makes rimuru connected to the All One somehow and expands on the dreamlike omnipotence statement. I don't think he will do that but he likes to pull stuff like that
Fuse isn't a dead beat author, "likes to pull" believe me he has never done so
 
The timeline thing

Fuse isn't a dead beat author, "likes to pull" believe me he has never done so
Twilight Valentine is the main culprit here. he came out of nowhere with a pseudo-true dragon body and acted as the manas to Velzard along with his title of God Killer with a skill that surpasses the sin series and the virtue series and that was meant to be an anti-Veldanava Skill that makes a psuedo-hell that eventually turns souls into nothing.
 
Twilight Valentine is the main culprit here. he came out of nowhere with a pseudo-true dragon body and acted as the manas to Velzard along with his title of God Killer with a skill that surpasses the sin series and the virtue series and that was meant to be an anti-Veldanava Skill that makes a psuedo-hell that eventually turns souls into nothing.
Pretty sure it was played through since volume 12
 
Unless fuse makes rimuru connected to the All One somehow and expands on the dreamlike omnipotence statement. I don't think he will do that but he likes to pull stuff like that
As long as it makes sense within the context of the series, I think stuff like that is fine.
The timeline thing

Fuse isn't a dead beat author, "likes to pull" believe me he has never done so
The timeline stuff was so convoluted that I'm pretty sure I missed...more than a few things.
 
Either ways the verse needs a massive revamp, updated abilities with the OTL, ones that need to be removed, etc
 
@CodeCCLL Could we get 2-C based on Ramiris Labyrinth? With each floor being a dimension or universe. Theres also a statement about her Labyrinth having infinite floors, and the kanji seems to check out at first glance. (Obviously, it needs to be translated tho). But we might be able to get 2-A out of it, at least if the hypertimeline doesn't work out.
 
@CodeCCLL Could we get 2-C based on Ramiris Labyrinth? With each floor being a dimension or universe. Theres also a statement about her Labyrinth having infinite floors, and the kanji seems to check out at first glance. (Obviously, it needs to be translated tho). But we might be able to get 2-A out of it, at least if the hypertimeline doesn't work out.
We can't use anything beyond Volume 20, tho there's mention that a dimension contains different worlds and yeah, ramiris labyrinth was mentioned to be a dimension that Veldora cant destroy in volume 16 OTL
 

WN gonna downgrade to 2C/low2-C
See, as what I said tier 5A tensura is not out of reach
 

WN gonna downgrade to 2C/low2-C
See, as what I said tier 5A tensura is not out of reach
You should calm down yourself, because they made the thread doesn't necessarily mean it'll pass, if it does pass, doesn't mean we can't bring it back, tbh i don't care about WN, so i would find time to rework LN
 
Was kinda always supposed to be that way.
It'll be hilarious if LN Rimuru turned out to always be stronger than his WN counterpart
the LN is the original afterall, there's no OTL for the WN which is why its hard to defend it, whilst the LN does have an OTL, so i can work with that and boost profiles, recorrecting astral mistakes, all blinded added abilities and upgrade them too, soon, tho, soon, i need all the supporters available to help too
 
Quick thought before I go to work; Existence Points are weird lol. Fuse describes them as not mattering in the grand scheme of things and at times you can even beat someone who has a value dozens of times higher than your own, though there's also statements where that power gap is just impossible to overcome.
Reminds me of DBZ power levels (which also stopped mattering after Frieza saga)
 
Quick thought before I go to work; Existence Points are weird lol. Fuse describes them as not mattering in the grand scheme of things and at times you can even beat someone who has a value dozens of times higher than your own, though there's also statements where that power gap is just impossible to overcome.
Reminds me of DBZ power levels (which also stopped mattering after Frieza saga)
In fact they are quite important, if you don’t have EP with battle IQ and computational power you will get crushed a bit like Diablo is ≈ to Feldway in combat skill but they got like an overwhelming difference in energy until Diablo started using turn null as stated in volume 22.

EP does determine your strength but not how you use it, therefore it doesn’t determine the issue of a fight.

But the greater the difference the more insurmountable the fight is for the lower one, especially when one doesn’t have special move that can overcome the absurd power gap (clhoe time leap, rimuru turn null, Guy and Diablo magic manipulation skills)

Should be noted that the more EP you get the more power boosts you gain but the progression isn’t linear, 2 million EP being reach divinity (SLF with will on ultimate level) but they aren’t just 10 times stronger than 200k EP the difference is like heavens and earth.

One will manipulate magicules and the other will manipulate Spiritron (the substance that form magicules) the finality of the confrontation is like unique skill vs ultimate skill.
 
I think you can delete every single page of Tensura because it's trash. then you lock all of the deleted pages from being created and they will never never never never ever come back for all eternity
 
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