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Resident Evil Discussion Thread

Tbh I the only thing that could even possibly be considered Extraordinary Genius is Heisenberg building his entire factory by himself and creating extremely complex machinery and robots from scrap metal, even being able to reprogram living ones and stuff.

Even then, that's realistically mid-upper genius by our current rankings, and Miranda doesn't really have an avenue to scale to Heisenberg in intelligence.
 
I see lol I missed that part, that would be wild then💀💀😭

Most of our Geniuses on wiki are above irl genius by a wide margin anyways so that alone isn't like too crazy, heck there are people only gifted who have feats no irl person can pull off. Its all case by case

I'm not conviced at all because neither of justification you gave meant anything at all, I'm not saying its impossible or

Tbh I the only thing that could even possibly be considered Extraordinary Genius is Heisenberg building his entire factory by himself and creating extremely complex machinery and robots from scrap metal, even being able to reprogram living ones and stuff.

Even then, that's realistically mid-upper genius by our current rankings, and Miranda doesn't really have an avenue to scale to Heisenberg in intelligence.
Agreed this is as far as things can be pushed I'd say
 
Tbh I the only thing that could even possibly be considered Extraordinary Genius is Heisenberg building his entire factory by himself and creating extremely complex machinery and robots from scrap metal, even being able to reprogram living ones and stuff.
His ability gives him a huge advantage on this things and Heisenberg does not create robots with full bodies, all of his creations are cyborgs and many of them are flawed. Also, all these cyborgs are brain dead and their only commands are "attack/destroy".
Even then, that's realistically mid-upper genius by our current rankings, and Miranda doesn't really have an avenue to scale to Heisenberg in intelligence.
You're definitely overestimating Heisenberg here. Miranda is definitely much smarter than Heisenberg. In fact, Heisenberg is currently listed as Gifted and Miranda is listed as Genius, which is probably best, but I just thought I'd ask.
 
Alright I think we should talk about abilities that need to be added, removed or upgraded. Aside from the abilities characters would get from their equipment, what other abilities should be listed ?
 
His ability gives him a huge advantage on this things
Literally the only things powers could help him with is moving the scrap metal and putting things in place to build stuff; he still needs to know how to build all of the complex machinery, circuitry, architecture, etc to make the place and cyborgs run as smoothly as it does.

I mean, unless you think he's ******* Magneto, and is simultaneously controlling every single piece of metal in the entire factory to be in place and move exactly how he wants it to, which, quite frankly, might be an even better feat with how much brain power it would take to do all of that.
and Heisenberg does not create robots with full bodies all of his creations are cyborgs and many of them are flawed. Also, all these cyborgs are brain dead and their only commands are "attack/destroy".
Yeah, he uses human bodies as building off points. So? That's still so far beyond the current realm of technology and robotics that it's ridiculous, even with their "flaws". Just being able to program the body them to get up, walk on their own, and attack things he says to is already within the genius tier.

And again, he's doing all of this with rusted scrap metal from a junk yard in an isolated, third world mountain village. No person in all of human history could do what he does, with or without his powers.
You're definitely overestimating Heisenberg here. Miranda is definitely much smarter than Heisenberg.
Prove it. She has no feats of intelligence that would put her above him. At best, you could say she's relative due to her expertise and helping with the research on some of the virus' in the series, but even that is stretching it.
In fact, Heisenberg is currently listed as Gifted and Miranda is listed as Genius, which is probably best, but I just thought I'd ask.
Then the pages are wrong and should be amended.
 
Literally the only things powers could help him with is moving the scrap metal and putting things in place to build stuff; he still needs to know how to build all of the complex machinery, circuitry, architecture, etc to make the place and cyborgs run as smoothly as it does.

I mean, unless you think he's ******* Magneto, and is simultaneously controlling every single piece of metal in the entire factory to be in place and move exactly how he wants it to, which, quite frankly, might be an even better feat with how much brain power it would take to do all of that.
Heisenberg didn't build the entire factory from scratch, the labyrinth of the factory tells us that there was a factory there long ago. Also, when you enter the factory gate, you will see that there is a German Panzer in front of the factory. He found them ready somehow and used them to modify his cyborgs.
he uses human bodies as building off points.
Heisenberg was using corpses with Cadou, and Cadou already had the ability to create zombies on own.
Just being able to program the body them to get up, walk on their own, and attack things he says to is already within the genius tier.
Is there any proof that Heisenberg programmed them in such detail?
Prove it. She has no feats of intelligence that would put her above him. At best, you could say she's relative due to her expertise and helping with the research on some of the virus' in the series, but even that is stretching it.
Great! She created something like Cadou and you only mentioned her as helping to research some viruses.
 
Alright I think we should talk about abilities that need to be added, removed or upgraded. Aside from the abilities characters would get from their equipment, what other abilities should be listed ?

Common abilities to be added​

This applies to most of the characters, with only like 1 or 2 abilities being not being listed.
  • Explosion Manipulation
  • Fire Manipulation
  • Light Manipulation
  • Electricity Manipulation
  • Acid Manipulation
  • Poison Manipulation
  • Acrobatics

Common abilities to be removed

  • Stealth Mastery (Unless sneaking past Lickers or turning the lights off on Wesker counts as Stealth Mastery, I think this can be removed for most of the cast)
  • Statistics Amplification (This comes from Yellow Herbs but only Leon and Ada have canonically used them (Yellow Herbs first appeared in Resident Evil: Gaiden but that's not canon and even if it was it still only applies for Leon), Ethan can keep this but we need to change the reasoning to steroids and stabilizer)
  • Damage Reduction (This comes Blue Herbs but they don't show up past Code Veronica)

Specific abilities for specific characters​

  • Social Influencing - For Chris, Wesker and HUNK (Maybe)
  • Danmaku - For Chris and Claire (They're able use Gatling Guns... maybe it's a Redfield thing)
  • Analytical Prediction - For Chris (Via the RE5 Novelisation, they specifically mention how Chris has enhanced sense after years of fighting bioterrorism [Project Umbrella translation, Fandom translation, Original text can be found on the RE Fandom]) This could explain how Chris could “dodge” and counter Wesker’s attacks during QTE sections
  • Regeneration (High-Mid) - For Wesker (I still think his regen should get upgraded considering other B.O.Ws have Low-Mid regen, like the Regeneradors, and Wesker's physical abilites should scale above every B.O.W. This should be at least "Likely High-Mid")
  • Afterimage Creation - For Wesker and Verdugo
 
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Heisenberg didn't build the entire factory from scratch, the labyrinth of the factory tells us that there was a factory there long ago.
Fair, completely forgot about that part. Been a while since I've played 8. Though, that doesn't really mean that much since the building the factory was probably the least impressive part of his whole scheme.
Also, when you enter the factory gate, you will see that there is a German Panzer in front of the factory. He found them ready somehow and used them to modify his cyborgs.
So he used the metal from the scrapped tanks to make his cyborgs? Yeah, that doesn't make the feat any less intelligent, since none of the internals that allow the zombies to run and such use pieces from them; the only ones that do in any capacity are the aptly named panzers, which he welded the body plating of the tanks onto to support their defense and offense. Every other technology made by Heisenberg is made with scrap metal.
Heisenberg was using corpses with Cadou, and Cadou already had the ability to create zombies on own.
Also fair, thought that he didn't use the Cadou for some reason lol. But after looking into it, it seems like the Cadou didn't even do much of the work, only actually reviving them; Heisenberg was the one that replaced their hearts with the Cadou instead of just normal infection, built a reactor around that to power the body and created technology to electrically stimulate their muscles and simulate brainwaves in them.
Is there any proof that Heisenberg programmed them in such detail?
He has them outfitted with a device that stabilizes their physical movements by simulating brainwaves, allowing them to engage in combat and even be able to understand language and commands to a certain extent, as seen with Sturm. This is the kind of shit fleets of scientists and researchers have been trying to create and develop for decades now due to things like paralysis, Parkinson's, and nerve damage, and we collectively have barely managed to do a fraction of what Heisenberg has done with just rusted junk.
Great! She created something like Cadou and you only mentioned her as helping to research some viruses.
Creating the Cadou is impressive, but Miranda didn't just build them from the ground up in a lab or something; she exposed nematodes to The Mold so that they would have the same DNA altering abilities as it whenever someone was infected by them. And hell, if you really want to talk about failing and faulty creations like you mentioned earlier, the Cadou are scoring like, what, 7? 8 somewhat "successful" infections out of however many infected there are in the game? Because that was the purpose of the Cadou: to create a host body for her daughter. And even then, when she did find a host, it came from, not her Cadous, but from the infection caused by The Mold itself across the planet without her involvement.

As for why I mentioned the viruses, it's because that's a really solid ass feat, and probably qualifies her for Gifted, likely Genius by itself. The ones we see in the game are genetically modified strains that are crazy and far beyond any sort of man-made disease in real life.
 
I have not read the recent page of this thread but i heard FTL RE, whoever you are who mentioned this stop smoking crack thats all
 
I have not read the recent page of this thread but i heard FTL RE, whoever you are who mentioned this stop smoking crack thats all
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We've got wilder stuff on the site, it's worth a shot....
 
I'm gonna make a CRT, probably today, so just reiterate...

Attack potency upgrade/ support​

  • 0.222 Tons of TNT for character's physical AP (Pretty much applies to every character in RE6, may also apply to other characters like Jill and Claire)
  • 0.134 to 0.939 Tons of TNT for guns (0.134 for non-upgraded handguns, and other low calibre guns like SMGs, 0.939 for high calibre guns like magnums and sniper rifles as well as explosives like grenade launchers)
  • 4.12 Tons of TNT for Rocket Launchers and Wesker
  • 2.42 Megajoules for Ethan Winters and Jack Baker

Durability​

  • Character's durability should be rated as high as Building level, based on enemy AP.

Speed upgrade and downgrade​

  • Peak Human travel speed for every character (For outrunning zombie dogs, goes up to 27 mph)
  • Subsonic+ combat and reaction speed for Claire, Leon, Moira (I guess) and William Birkin and Mr X
  • Hypersonic combat and reaction speed for Jill, Nemesis, Chris and the rest of the characters in RE6
  • Hypersonic+ travel and combat speed for Wesker and Alexia Ashford (Maybe)
  • High Hypersonic+ reactions for Wesker and Alexia Ashford (Maybe)

Abilities​

  • Characters get abilities based on the weapons they have among other things.
  • Not every character should get Stealth Mastery, Statistics Amplification (Based on Yellow herbs) and Damage Reduction (Based on Blue herbs)

Other stuff

  • Heisenberg should be rated "Genius"
  • Proposing the idea that most characters (Like Chris, Leon, Claire) should get at least 2 keys to separate classic RE (Where their best feat is like stomping zombie skulls and destroying crates) and modern RE (Where characters are now just straight up fist fighting B.O.Ws)
  • New Game+ guns and one-time-use guns should be optional equipment (I think that would be cool and represents RE quite well)
 
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So what kind of Hax Mother Miranda will have due to fusing with the megamyce?
Depends, I’ve been looking into her getting some pretty decent stuff while inside the Megamycyte itself, like Existence Erasure, Information Manip, Power Nullification, etc.

Also potentially some mountain level stuff if we can scale her to her entire pocket dimension. But right now we should focus on fixing the verse to not be dogass, because right now it very much is (especially RE7 and RE: Village).
 
Depends, I’ve been looking into her getting some pretty decent stuff while inside the Megamycyte itself, like Existence Erasure, Information Manip, Power Nullification, etc.

Also potentially some mountain level stuff if we can scale her to her entire pocket dimension. But right now we should focus on fixing the verse to not be dogass, because right now it very much is (especially RE7 and RE: Village).
Agree lol
 
"Mountain Level" Chris Redfield when there is a locked door in his way
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Lol, sounds about right. But oddly enough, it probably wouldn’t create any scaling issues, as it’d be through creation and wouldn’t scale to her physicals (probably, idk I’m still researching).
 
Alright, it's up

 
Alright, it's up

Hey man its been a while but I saw you guys made a lot of progress on this thread. Do you guys think you’ll do and add the revised version of our old Mirandas village town level feat to the newly created RE revised blog with the extra evidence I supplied a couple pages back. Plus I can repaste the list of evidence to correct it in my next response if you’d like
 
Hey man its been a while but I saw you guys made a lot of progress on this thread. Do you guys think you’ll do and add the revised version of our old Mirandas village town level feat to the newly created RE revised blog with the extra evidence I supplied a couple pages back. Plus I can repaste the list of evidence to correct it in my next response if you’d like
I’ll probably make another CRT in the future when I play Shadow of Rose, I’ve only beat RE 7 & 8 once just for the love of the game so I want to play it a couple more times to find some scaling, from what I’ve heard the Megamycete might give cracked scaling for RE.
 
Feats to also consider for the future btw
Krauser ripping that Metal off the ground and chucking it to Ada (Could be LS)


Infinite Darkness Jason ripping off the platform (Easily an insane LS feat and can argue scales to Wesker via the strongest Statement and Infinite Darkness takes place before RE5)
 
How do CRTs work ?
CRT has gotta be approved by 2 or more staff usually depending on the content before being applied, right now I'm the only staff vote so we need 1 more approval before you can apply the crt.

The crt also has to be open for 2 days before it can applied if approved so you should be good there at least
 
I’ll probably make another CRT in the future when I play Shadow of Rose, I’ve only beat RE 7 & 8 once just for the love of the game so I want to play it a couple more times to find some scaling, from what I’ve heard the Megamycete might give cracked scaling for RE.
Sounds good, let me know at some point when you’ve set up the future CRT.
 
Started working on Alice from (Re movies) reworkhttps://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Renitr/Resident_Evil_movies_(Alice_rework)
 
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Given how over the top her stunts and fights are in the films, I am a bit surprised her stats are for the most part pretty modest.
Most likely, she will become even modest. The only feat that could give her a 9-A tier in base form was calculated and gave 9-B result. But she can have a pretty high AP with telekinesis, and thanks to one calculated feat, she can probably have Class M LS in base form
 
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to get some feedback on a potential reaction speed feat from Resident Evil 6, involving Leon S. Kennedy, and whether it could support a speed scaling upgrade.

The Feat:
During a scene in RE6, Leon is shown reacting to a flashbang grenade while it's already mid-detonation, turning his head and shutting his eyes fast enough to avoid being blinded. What makes this more interesting is that other trained characters present in the same scene—such as Chris Redfield and Helena Harper—are all visibly affected by the flash, while only Leon manages to react in time.

This implies his reaction speed is not only exceptional on its own, but possibly superior to other elite characters in the same universe.

Feat here:2:45
 
Hi everyone,
I'm looking to get some feedback on a potential reaction speed feat from Resident Evil 6, involving Leon S. Kennedy, and whether it could support a speed scaling upgrade.

The Feat:
During a scene in RE6, Leon is shown reacting to a flashbang grenade while it's already mid-detonation, turning his head and shutting his eyes fast enough to avoid being blinded. What makes this more interesting is that other trained characters present in the same scene—such as Chris Redfield and Helena Harper—are all visibly affected by the flash, while only Leon manages to react in time.

This implies his reaction speed is not only exceptional on its own, but possibly superior to other elite characters in the same universe.

Feat here:2:45

I disagree with this, it’s neat that Leon might have relativistic perception/ reactions but this seems like outlier especially when other characters can fight relatively on par with Leon without him just straight up dodging everything with his relativistic perception.
The only way I can see this being accepted is if we accept every other “light speed showings” in RE, which are minimal and very dubious anyways.
 
I disagree with this, it’s neat that Leon might have relativistic perception/ reactions but this seems like outlier especially when other characters can fight relatively on par with Leon without him just straight up dodging everything with his relativistic perception.
The only way I can see this being accepted is if we accept every other “light speed showings” in RE, which are minimal and very dubious anyways.
I get your point, but I think Krauser doing something similar in RE4 vanishing right as a flashbang goes off shows that Leon’s feat might not be an outlier after all. There’s at least some consistency in flashbang-related feats in the series.
 
I get your point, but I think Krauser doing something similar in RE4 vanishing right as a flashbang goes off shows that Leon’s feat might not be an outlier after all. There’s at least some consistency in flashbang-related feats in the series.
For every flashbang feat you have there's 10 others that are Subsonic~Hypersonic ranges, its still an outlier and non consistent even if they weren't dubious and kinda sketchy
 
Hi, I came across a new feat calc for the Satellite Laser “Shango” used by Chris in RE5. This calc was done by a friend of mine, and you can check it out here:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._the_Satellite_Laser_Shango_(Resident_Evil_5)

The calc gives a result of High 7-A (Large Mountain level+), but please note that this calculation has not yet been officially verified or reviewed.

Some context:

Uroboros Aheri takes 2–3 hits from this laser before dying.

Chris uses this weapon and fights final Wesker hand-to-hand.

Wesker is portrayed as superior to all BOWs, including Aheri.


If this calc is accepted, we might see potential upgrades not only for Chris, Sheva, and Wesker, but also for other key characters like Jill and Leon, who also face off against these high-level threats in the game. Specifically, we could see them upgraded to High 7-A or higher due to their involvement in these high-stakes battles.

I’m not sure whether this calc would be accepted or if the feat counts toward the characters’ actual stats, so I’d appreciate any input or feedback.

Thanks!
 
Yeah no there are too many problems here

1. There is no showing of equivalent destruction to the KE you calculated here which automatically makes the KE invalid, the explosion produced are only about 8-C~High 8-C

2. The bulbs that are hit by the laser are completely obliterated and she regens from her other remaining bits so she herself doesn't the scale

3. We definitely don't do someone firing a laser as a specifc heat calc either without further context as well the calc here isn't indicative of whats actually happening anyways as its firing a concentrated laser not a beam thats traveling down and not just something that ignites the atmosphere to the heat of blue flames


All and all this doesn't work at any level
 
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Leon in verse: "Raccoon city was wiped out... I'll never forget it.."

Leon in battleboarding: "High 7-A pistol here we go." 😈
 
Yeah no there are too many problems here

1. There is no showing of equivalent destruction to the KE you calculated here which automatically makes the KE invalid, the explosion produced are only about 8-C~High 8-C

2. The bulbs that are hit by the laser are completely obliterated and she regens from her other remaining bits so she herself doesn't the scale

3. We definitely don't do someone firing a laser as a specifc heat calc either without further context as well the calc here isn't indicative of whats actually happening anyways as its firing a concentrated laser not a beam thats traveling down and not just something that ignites the atmosphere to the heat of blue flames


All and all this doesn't work at any level
"So just to clarify — does this mean the feat itself is unquantifiable, or is it just that this specific method of calculation is invalid? I'm trying to understand if there's any way this feat could be accepted with a different approach."
 
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