Zeldris vs Jigen (Speed Equalized)

[karo_senpaii]

lol i’ve red It back, he got killed cuz it’s natural flames.

Jigen would in fact not be able to absorb any elemental attack from NNT.

One is occular the other isn’t

Doesn’t matter for the Jigen jutsu

Jigen must be close to bfr and the source of his chakra is his hand’s Kama.

Zel nulls it

1. Usually when people say they've read it they usually have not. The only think karma can't absorb is stuff already existing naturally. Anything infused with chakra or magic in the case is up for grabs. What you're comparing is not even remotely the same. Heck it's not even Comparable to nature energy which jigen can still absorb fine.

2. Not only is it irrelevant if one is ocular but jigen primary bfr is ocular and it's a void where time is stopped. The moment zeldris gets there it's over. He's ridiculously slower and can't sense jigen, he's getting cooked.

3.since when can god null power systems?

either way this is a mismatch

 

[Makai641001]

1. Usually when people say they've read it they usually have not.

I did

The only think karma can't absorb is stuff already existing naturally.

Provoking the apparition of a pre existing natural phenomenon should work then

Anything infused with chakra or magic in the case is up for grabs.

Here magic in NNT is just there to make the natural elements appear, They are still natural tho

What you're comparing is not even remotely the same. Heck it's not even Comparable to nature energy which jigen can still absorb fine.

If you say so

2. Not only is it irrelevant if one is ocular but jigen primary bfr is ocular and it's a void where time is stopped.

BFR (Sent Naruto to another dimension)

Dimensional Storage, Limited Time Stop & Summoning (With Daikokuten he can send things he has shrunk to a dimension where time doesn't flow, and instantly bring them back. He has a stock of things, such as tables, food and drinks)

Sukunahikona is a dōjutsu of Isshiki Ōtsutsuki's unspecified right eye. It allows him to instantaneously shrink himself or any inorganic matter within his gaze and return it to its original size at will. Because the change in size happens too fast for the human eye to see, it is often mistaken for teleportation. Daikokuten can store these objects within a timeless dimension, allowing them to maintain their condition. While inhabiting Jigen’s body, this technique customarily required hand gestures to shrink foreign matter, but in his original form, Isshiki can achieve the effect just by looking at desired objects.

The moment zeldris gets there it's over. He's ridiculously slower

If speed’s unequalized yeah he’s slower but the OP Still has equalled speed

and can't sense jigen, he's getting cooked.

With full react he should be fine lol

3.since when can god null power systems?

God basically nulls any magic that targets Zel both systems are equalized It would be nulled

either way this is a mismatch

Yeah let’s ask to close this

 

[karo_senpaii]

I did

Provoking the apparition of a pre existing natural phenomenon should work then

Here magic in NNT is just there to make the natural elements appear, They are still natural tho

If you say so


BFR (Sent Naruto to another dimension)

Dimensional Storage, Limited Time Stop & Summoning (With Daikokuten he can send things he has shrunk to a dimension where time doesn't flow, and instantly bring them back. He has a stock of things, such as tables, food and drinks)




If speed’s unequalized yeah he’s slower but the OP Still has equalled speed

With full react he should be fine lol

God basically nulls any magic that targets Zel both systems are equalized It would be nulled

Yeah let’s ask to close this

Since we both agree this should be closed I won't argue further but about daikokuten I would have said I don't blame you that maybe the profile is just not well worded as both daikokuten and sukunahikona are just ocular abilities of his eye "kokugan" but seeing as you said you watched the fight well it just seems strange you won't know that or you just watched a YouTube clip?

 

[Makai641001]

Since we both agree this should be closed I won't argue further but about daikokuten I would have said I don't blame you that maybe the profile is just not well worded as both daikokuten and sukunahikona are just ocular abilities of his eye "kokugan" but seeing as you said you watched the fight well it just seems strange you won't know that or you just watched a YouTube clip?

When i said i re red the scene i was talking about the Kashin koji fire scene

I thought the bfr was from his kama seal since he always use his palm before a bfr

I also thought the time stopped dimension was only for inanimate objects

But Yeah let’s close this i doubt this Will be interesting With the current MFTL meta and i don’t think It will last at all