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MCU Phase 5 General Discussion Thread

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Lonkitt said:
Kang's ass doesn't outscale everything in the universe 😭😭😭
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Yes he does the guy was literally so powerful He Who remains was stated to fear the kang from antman it literally took the entire council of kangs jumping him together to banish him to the quantum realm


Lonkitt said:
Bro got cooked up by Ant-Man and Kang's best tech (supposedly) peaks at 2-A. Kang is a Potential Man at best
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he got cooked because he had none of his good tech lol also are you forgetting kang was originally going to be the next big villain before doom took his place

Also for starters what in the normal universe even has that power lol the statement is the most powerful in the universe not the most powerful in the entire mcu
 
darkphantom9805 said:
Yes he does the guy was literally so powerful He Who remains was stated to fear the kang from antman it literally took the entire council of kangs jumping him together to banish him to the quantum realm
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I don't think you watched Ant-Man 3, man. He throws a tantrum because Ant-Man and his squad of 9-As are cooking him up. This is the guy who "outscales everything in that universe"? Seems to me like the Council of Kangs just sucked

darkphantom9805 said:
he got cooked because he had none of his good tech lol also are you forgetting kang was originally going to be the next big villain before doom took his place
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He was. And those plans got scrapped so now Kang's just a one time villain who was absolutely ass. And if you're gonna argue he's still powerful because of some scrapped scripts for future films, those can't be applied since those aren't canon as they were never used

This man doesn't scale above everything in the verse LMAO
 
Lonkitt said:
I don't think you watched Ant-Man 3, man. He throws a tantrum because Ant-Man and his squad of 9-As are cooking him up. This is the guy who "outscales everything in that universe"? Seems to me like the Council of Kangs just sucked
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I did watch antman the entire plot point was he was to powerful so they had to banish him into a realm with essentially 0 tech and a broken time chair literally the plot of the film he’s missing his tech and he only managed to get his suit back before his chair was broken again

The council of kangs didn’t suck kang variants almost destroyed the entire multiverse during their war HeWhoRemains who literally creates things like the loom which deletes the entire multiverse but 1 timeline creates the TVA etc also feared the kang from antman hes just that strong get over it

Lonkitt said:
He was. And those plans got scrapped so now Kang's just a one time villain who was absolutely ass. And if you're gonna argue he's still powerful because of some scrapped scripts for future films, those can't be applied since those aren't canon as they were never used
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that’s not quite how it works it wasn’t scrapped their story doesn’t just get deleted we still know from Loki what threat they were they literally had a war that would’ve destroyed the entire multiverse everything and everyone and they aren’t scrapped either per the end of Loki they are still out there
Lonkitt said:
This man doesn't scale above everything in the verse LMAO
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Do you even know what your talking about the statement is strongest in the universe not strongest in the entire cosmology lol like are you having another conversation nobody said kang was the strongest in the entire verse

The only people above kangs tho would Loki ultrons infinity Wanda and watchers
 
darkphantom9805 said:
I did watch antman the entire plot point was he was to powerful so they had to banish him into a realm with essentially 0 tech and a broken time chair literally the plot of the film he’s missing his tech and he only managed to get his suit back before his chair was broken again
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Yeah man he was so powerful that he didn't use his insta-kill hax on the 9-A cast that were kicking him in a corner 😭

darkphantom9805 said:
The council of kangs didn’t suck kang variant almost destroyed the entire multiverse during their war HeWhoRemains who literally creates things like the look which delete the entire multiverse but 1 timeline creates the TVA etc also feared the kang from antman
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Characters in the MCU who can destroy the multiverse? Yeah, he can join the club, because that shit isn't all that impressive anymore. Kang peaks at 2-A while the heaviest hitters are standing in Tier 1. Kang's just some guy who manages to get his hands on Tier 2 tech occasionally, but is a shitty ass opponent outside of that

darkphantom9805 said:
that’s not quite how it works it wasn’t scrapped their story doesn’t just get deleted we still know from Loki what threat they were they literally had a war that would’ve destroyed the entire multiverse everything and everyone and they aren’t scrapped either per the end of Loki they are still out there
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Anything from Loki wasn't scrapped, but any future plans for Kang have been scrapped. He's got nothing new to glaze himself with LMAO

darkphantom9805 said:
Do you even know what your talking about the statement is strongest in the universe not strongest in the entire cosmology lol like are you having another conversation nobody said kang was the strongest in the entire verse

The only people above kangs tho would Loki ultrons infinity Wanda and watchers
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Yeah, I know you said strongest in that SPECIFIC universe, thats why I quoted you above saying "everything in that universe". Like earlier when I said:

I don't think you watched Ant-Man 3, man. He throws a tantrum because Ant-Man and his squad of 9-As are cooking him up. This is the guy who "outscales everything in that universe"? Seems to me like the Council of Kangs just sucked
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Read what I say next time

Even then, he doesn't outscale everything in the Sacred Timeline, because this shit still exists. You said "everything in that universe", meaning we're not just talking about characters here, we're talking about items and weapons too

Kang ain't getting past the Completed Infinity Gauntlet

Put the fries in the bag, Kang
 
Lonkitt said:
Yeah man he was so powerful that he didn't use his insta-kill hax on the 9-A cast that were kicking him in a corner 😭
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Lol


Lonkitt said:
Characters in the MCU who can destroy the multiverse? Yeah, he can join the club, because that shit isn't all that impressive anymore. Kang peaks at 2-A while the heaviest hitters are standing in Tier 1. Kang's just some guy who manages to get his hands on Tier 2 tech occasionally, but is a shitty ass opponent outside of that
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Literally only the characters I named are capable of that and none of them exist inside the universe lol


Lonkitt said:
Anything from Loki wasn't scrapped, but any future plans for Kang have been scrapped. He's got nothing new to glaze himself with LMAO
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I’m not using those future plans lol everything I’ve stated was said in antman or Loki


Lonkitt said:
Yeah, I know you said strongest in that SPECIFIC universe, thats why I quoted you above saying "everything in that universe". Read what I say next time

Even then, he doesn't outscale everything in the Sacred Timeline, because this shit still exists. You said "everything in that universe", meaning we're not just talking about characters here, we're talking about items and weapons too
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Is this a joke ? The infinity gauntlet was fried from universe level power yet somehow it scales above kang ? HeWhoRemains literally offered the gauntlet like it was candy no it doesn’t outscale them

Also did you even think before replying the gauntlet doesn’t exist when the statement was made Shang chi comes after endgame meaning the stones are destroyed and gone by then meaning statement still applies sorry but try again
 
How MCU Kang looks trying to hurt anyone in the MCU that scales above Ant-Man (he doesn't have his vague-ass Avengers killing technology)

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darkphantom9805 said:
Literally only the characters I named are capable of that and none of them exist inside the universe lol
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Not really the point here

darkphantom9805 said:
Is this a joke ? The infinity gauntlet was fried from universe level power yet somehow it scales above kang ? HeWhoRemains literally offered the gauntlet like it was candy no it doesn’t outscale them

Also did you even think before replying the gauntlet doesn’t exist when the statement was made Shang chi comes after endgame meaning the stones are destroyed and gone by then meaning statement still applies sorry but try again
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So how come Kang's not Tier 1 on the wiki LMAO

Unless you wanna argue Kang's at best 2-A tech scales above the combined power of the six Infinity Stones, you might wanna make a revision thread if you can somehow prove Kang's tech > the peak of the Infinity Stones. Like, are you not reading the page I linked here?

up to Low Complex Multiverse level with the six Infinity Stones (The Watcher, who has seen everything that has ever happened, ever will happen, ever could happen, or is happening at the totality of the Multiverse across all time and space, and is also stated to be "all-seeing, all-knowing and omnipresent" and that has literally seen it all, claimed that even him cannot imagine the horrors that might follow if Infinity Ultron is unleashed upon the Multiverse, considering him a threat to all the universes and the Multiverse in its entirety with its boundaries being irrelevant to him, making Ultron a bigger threat than the likes of Alioth, Kang and Dormammu). Can negate durability with many abilities
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Btw, the Ten Rings being the strongest in the universe line wasn't even in the film. It was trailer exclusive, which negates its applicability regardless
 
Lonkitt said:
Not really the point here
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I mean you act like everyone and their grandma can do it when only a very small handful are capable of such destruction


Lonkitt said:
So how come Kang's not Tier 1 on the wiki LMAO
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because nobody has changed it? this info didn’t come out the time his profile was made nor that he scales above hewhoremains


Lonkitt said:
Unless you wanna argue Kang's at best 2-A tech scales above the combined power of the six Infinity Stones, you might wanna make a revision thread if you can somehow prove Kang's tech > the peak of the Infinity Stones. Like, are you not reading the page I linked here?
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For starters the gauntlet can’t use its power there’s a reason Ultron didn’t get fried performing his feats and the gauntlet did from 1 universe

2nd Thanos can’t use the stones to their peak literally the only people capable of that was Ultron and Wanda not Thanos lol

And yes I see your page that thread is just flat out wrong Thanos profile doesn’t even have that tier and the scaling to the stones is trying to scale to Ultron there’s no evidence the gauntlet nor Ultron scales to each other especially when they are a different set of stones and Ultron himself stated every stone is unique this is proven by the finale where another Ultron was fodderized by the eminence who was equal to uatu who lost to Ultron

Either way the stones don’t exist when the statement was made


Lonkitt said:
Btw, the Ten Rings being the strongest in the universe line wasn't even in the film. It was trailer exclusive, which negates its applicable regardless
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Cool but them being the strongest is still possible because they are kang tech did you write the film do you know how powerful they are ? No you didn’t do like I said nothing disproves they could be that strong
 
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MCU Namor upgrade

So why does namor only scale to vibranium with his weapon? when in the movie he damages Jabari wood with a single strike from his fist Jabari wood is stated multiple times to be as Powerful as vibranium and can go toe to toe with it and have the exact same properties As vibranium the literal...
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All I'm saying is my first thought when seeing a new Spider-Man title is "holy shit we're actually getting MCU Spider-Man 4" and not "can't wait for high level feats" 😭
 
Lonkitt said:
All I'm saying is my first thought when seeing a new Spider-Man title is "holy shit we're actually getting MCU Spider-Man 4" and not "can't wait for high level feats" 😭
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that’s only what I posted here lol on other sites my first thought about it was what do y’all think the film was going to be about
 
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Kang glazers attempting to explain why he could totally solo the MCU's villain roster, despite how he jobbed to Ant-Man and got banished by his other fodder variants
 
Ok so I don't know if you've seen it somewhere else but according to an article from a french journal about the upcoming Avengers movie, the Doctor Doom played by RDJ will NOT be a Stark variant. The Russo explained there's a reason why both characters have the same face and that's going to be a pivotal part of the story and, even more, they stated that in-universe, Tony's death had something to do with Doom's presence and the subject will be brought up in the story
 
darkphantom9805 said:
Technically this is wrong HeWhoRemains who is weaker then the kangs can create barriers which nullify the stones they are literally paper weights by the TvA or no
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They're paper weights when taken individually and out of combat. we don't really know that well how the TVA works with weaponry against top tier hitters. They've sent powerful variants to the Void but aside from their staff, which necessitates to actually land a hit, we don't see how they would deal with a IU level threat in direct combat.
 
ArkhamDC06 said:
They're paper weights when taken individually and out of combat. we don't really know that well how the TVA works with weaponry against top tier hitters. They've sent powerful variants to the Void but aside from their staff, which necessitates to actually land a hit, we don't see how they would deal with a IU level threat in direct combat.
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What does that even mean obviously they are out of combat because they are seen as paper weight fodder the stones are implied by HeWhoRemains to not be that strong he literally offered to give Loki the infinity gauntlet the stones like it was candy like why wouldn’t any kang variant ever just go grab a set of stones ? There’s a reason they all use their own tech and not infinity stones
 
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darkphantom9805 said:
What does that even mean obviously they are out of combat because they are seen as paper weight fodder the stones are implied by HeWhoRemains to not be that strong he literally offered to give Loki the infinity gauntlet the stones like it was candy like why wouldn’t any kang variant ever just go grab a set of stones ? There’s a reason they all use their own tech and not infinity stones
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By out of combat, I meant that they're like that after the timelines have been dealt with. We don't know if those Stones were taken in direct combat for example

Regardless, it doesn't matter, Kang is not the supreme player in the MCU anyway and he never will because he won't return after Major's behavior
 
Raincutter said:
Depends on if its another multiverse story or street tier story.
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Not really. NWH was a "multiverse story" technically, and all it did was support the Tier 8 scaling for Spider-Man and the Super Soldiers

D&W was also a "multiverse story", and that didn't do anything crazy feat wise
 
So i was looking through some statments and find this:



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Its unrivaled by anything in the realms it says aswell is any of these statments usable to scale thor who was able to shatter the ship or any other character?
 
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