Dark Tower: High 1-A Content Revision

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

Yes, which is why I mentioned it and why I still don't feel like its enough.

The definition I mentioned aligns well with the current tier system's High 1-A+ explanation.

The apex of this tier, represented also by a "+" modifier in their Attack Potency section (High Outerverse level+), corresponds to characters whose power encompasses meta-qualities, meta-meta-qualities, and any and all conceivable extensions of this process, being on a which in which their power influences the space of all logically possible worlds ("Logical space," where the laws governing it are the three laws of thought), being characters who either have the ability to actualize arbitrarily large worlds, or embody the framework of such worlds itself.

That said, characters who embody the framework of all possible worlds properly speaking may be rightly considered more powerful than those that can simply create arbitrarily big possible worlds while nevertheless existing in one.

It is possible to say that Gan is the cosmological pinnacle and that every possible life and experience (which, in a broader sense, also includes a combination of all logically possible worlds as explained through the three laws of thought on the cosmology page) is a manifestation of him. He is clearly superior to beings like Pennywise and Maturin, and even the highest cosmological structures likely exist within his mind.

 

[Qawsedf234]

The definition I mentioned aligns well with the current tier system's High 1-A+ explanation.

You can feel that way, but I don't see it personally. You'll just have to list me as disagreeing with High 1-A+ as a rating.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

You can feel that way, but I don't see it personally. You'll just have to list me as disagreeing with High 1-A+ as a rating.

In your terms, "I don't feel it," but I think this is correct. Because I have stated that it aligns perfectly with the definition of High 1-A+, yet you haven't provided any evidence or a valid argument for why you don't accept it—aside from the fact that Gan was born from Prim and the Final Other encompasses everything, which I have already addressed. However, if you still accept High 1-A instead of High 1-A+ without presenting an argument, simply liking this response will suffice instead of writing more. This way, you will have withdrawn from the discussion for now and stated your final stance as High 1-A.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

In your terms, "I don't feel it," but I think this is correct. Because I have stated that it aligns perfectly with the definition of High 1-A+, yet you haven't provided any evidence or a valid argument for why you don't accept it—aside from the fact that Gan was born from Prim and the Final Other encompasses everything, which I have already addressed. However, if you still accept High 1-A instead of High 1-A+ without presenting an argument, simply liking this response will suffice instead of writing more. This way, you will have withdrawn from the discussion for now and stated your final stance as High 1-A.

You're saying a lot of nonsense. He simply fully disagrees with the thread itself. He is simply proposing what aspects scale to where(which doesn't match your OP in the slightest). So he's not “somewhat agreeing” so stop it with this ridiculous notion of yours. I, myself, already represented so many arguments and I disagree as a whole yet I don't see myself in the disagree section. You're acting in bad faith here about what Qaws is saying which is “he disagrees.” So fix your OP.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

You're saying a lot of nonsense. He simply fully disagrees with the thread itself. He is simply proposing what aspects scale to where(which doesn't match your OP in the slightest). So he's not “somewhat agreeing” so stop it with this ridiculous notion of yours. I, myself, already represented so many arguments and I disagree as a whole yet I don't see myself in the disagree section. You're acting in bad faith here about what Qaws is saying which is “he disagrees.” So fix your OP.

Stop evaluating the topic from your own perspective. I started this discussion to address any lingering questions people might have or to clarify the parts where they disagree with me—unless they provide a convincing argument or explicitly state that they don’t want to discuss it further. If I’m not going to do that, then why would I step into such a heated debate? That’s my sole intention; I have no desire to pressure anyone.

On the other hand, Qawsedf234 has the ability to express themselves, whereas you do not have the authority to speak or defend anyone on their behalf. As I’ve said before, please only reflect your own thoughts and do not speak for others.

Right now, I need to sleep—I lost my job. Maybe we can continue discussing this in a friendly manner later. However, while you argue that a High 1-A+ structure represents the cosmological pinnacle, this definition aligns perfectly with the macroverse. Yet, you claim it would add an extra layer and have provided no anti-feat to support that argument.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Stop evaluating the topic from your own perspective. I started this discussion to address any lingering questions people might have or to clarify the parts where they disagree with me—unless they provide a convincing argument or explicitly state that they don’t want to discuss it further. If I’m not going to do that, then why would I step into such a heated debate? That’s my sole intention; I have no desire to pressure anyone.

You obviously contingent on your own perspective of an argument. So I highly doubt not agreeing would be seen as “convincing” to you when that's really not something for you to decide. If someone “disagrees” then they disagree.

On the other hand, Qawsedf234 has the ability to express themselves, whereas you do not have the authority to speak or defend anyone on their behalf. As I’ve said before, please only reflect your own thoughts and do not speak for others.

Qaws agreed to: 1-A+ for the Tower, High 1-A for things outside of it, and High 1-A for Gan which is not matced by you saying the Tower is infinite layers into High 1-A, infinite layers for things in the Marcoverse, and High 1-A+ for Gan.

This is not speaking for Qaws. He simply did not agree with your ratings. Which in other words means he didn't agree with your proposal which is a disagreement in the most conventional sense.

Right now, I need to sleep—I lost my job. Maybe we can continue discussing this in a friendly manner later. However, while you argue that a High 1-A+ structure represents the cosmological pinnacle, this definition aligns perfectly with the macroverse. Yet, you claim it would add an extra layer and have provided no anti-feat to support that argument.

I didn't say anything along the lines since “possible worlds” aren't cosmological or hierarchical things within a framework in which they are the established framework itself. Since 0 isn't existent then High 1-A+ are going to exists purely as their own function which isn't matched by anything you've provided so far which you only used said quotes because they name-drop possible worlds.

 

[KYL9494]

Explanation
Good day. A few months ago, we opened a content revision for Dark Tower, but we ended it due to missing details and, frankly, a lack of interest. Recently, I created a new page called Dark Tower Cosmology, and as you can see, the content looks quite comprehensive. Now, all we need is for a few admins to review this content revision.

Agree: @Monsters_fight @Rutæhh @LordVader30 @Protector_Hunk @Radman69 @RigelBR7 @Duragoji123 @Kairach

Somewhat Agree: @Qawsedf234 (High 1-A)

Disagree:
(Those who do not participate must state their reasons.)

i think there is some fake panel like the one that say "the axle of all possible world , logically possible world" i never seen this one i think its a fake

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

You obviously contingent on your own perspective of an argument. So I highly doubt not agreeing would be seen as “convincing” to you when that's really not something for you to decide.

No, what I meant was to evaluate it within a broader context, but anyway, it no longer matters.

Qaws agreed to: 1-A+ for the Tower, High 1-A for things outside of it, and High 1-A for Gan which is not matces by you saying the Tower is infinite layers into High 1-A, infinite layers for things in the Marcoverse, and High 1-A+ for Gan.

Yes, that's why I added it to the "Somewhat Agree" section, since it's relative; didn't you notice? On the other hand, you mentioned "infinite layers for things in the Macroverse," what did you mean by that? Are you suggesting that there is a separate hierarchy at work in the Macroverse?

He simply did not agree with your ratings. Which in other words means he didn't agree with your proposal which is a disagreement in the most conventional sense.

This is true, but right now, you're saying that I’m putting Qaws in a difficult position, or to put it more clearly, acting with bad intentions, which is wrong. As I said before, my goal is not to put anyone in a difficult situation, but to clear up any doubts or, if they disagree with me, to have a friendly discussion on the matter. I absolutely do not intend to force anyone to accept something, but I do have the right to correct misunderstood parts of content revision.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Yes, that's why I added it to the "Somewhat Agree" section, since it's relative; didn't you notice? On the other hand, you mentioned "infinite layers for things in the Macroverse," what did you mean by that? Are you suggesting that there is a separate hierarchy at work in the Macroverse?

Those things are not relative. You didn't put the ratings as that and he didn't agree to the initial rating, that's a disagreement.

As for your Macroverse point, I meant to say that you proposed High 1-A+:

As a result, the tier of both supreme divine beings is High 1-A+ (Type 1) In the light of the data we have, the fact that Pennywise is integrated with his own infinity in a darkness called the Macroverse shows that he may cover a large part of the possible worlds. While Maturin carries all the physical worlds and the Tower on his back by himself, the fact that Pennywise is Maturin's brother and a Demon Elemental who is his opposite reveals that the only watching Turtle and the only eating It, both representing good and evil, are the two cosmic forces that provide power in the deep dark rooms of the Macroverse. Even if Maturin is not qualitatively superior to Pennywise, it is stated that he is a power that eclipses his power, which indicates that both should be included in the same echelon.

Something that Qaws didn't agree to.

This is true, but right now, you're saying that I’m putting Qaws in a difficult position, or to put it more clearly, acting with bad intentions, which is wrong. As I said before, my goal is not to put anyone in a difficult situation, but to clear up any doubts or, if they disagree with me, to have a friendly discussion on the matter. I absolutely do not intend to force anyone to accept something, but I do have the right to correct misunderstood parts of content revision.

No, I was more in the line that you're lying about someone's stance.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

i think there is some fake panel like the one that say "the axle of all possible world , logically possible world" i never seen this one i think its a fake

It's not a fake panel, but this is likely due to the fact that book or PDF translations often come from different or very similar publishing houses. (I'm speaking based on the PDF I read). However, the reason I give the universe High 1-A+ isn't because of that part; even if there is a translation error from either you or me, the reason for assigning the High 1-A+ tier comes from identity, meaning the formation of fixed laws, and as Los said, it comes from consistent worlds.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

Those things are not relative. You didn't put the ratings as that and he didn't agree to the initial rating, that's a disagreement.

Well, actually, I find High 1-A+ to be logical, while they suggest that High 1-A would be the correct proposition. I meant "relative" when I said that.

As a result, the tier of both supreme divine beings is High 1-A+ (Type 1) In the light of the data we have, the fact that Pennywise is integrated with his own infinity in a darkness called the Macroverse shows that he may cover a large part of the possible worlds. While Maturin carries all the physical worlds and the Tower on his back by himself, the fact that Pennywise is Maturin's brother and a Demon Elemental who is his opposite reveals that the only watching Turtle and the only eating It, both representing good and evil, are the two cosmic forces that provide power in the deep dark rooms of the Macroverse. Even if Maturin is not qualitatively superior to Pennywise, it is stated that he is a power that eclipses his power, which indicates that both should be included in the same echelon.

Do you think the "deep rooms" I'm referring to are some kind of hierarchy?

No, I was more in the line that you're lying about someone's stance.

Like what?

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Like what?

You're lying about an administrator vote.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

You're lying about an administrator vote.

Actually, no. This morning, Qaws mentioned that he only participated in the High 1-A section and that he shouldn't be in the section for those who accept the High 1-A+ tier. In this case, I created a special category to specify the part he participated in.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

Actually, no. This morning, Qaws mentioned that he only participated in the High 1-A section and that he shouldn't be in the section for those who accept the High 1-A+ tier. In this case, I created a special category to specify the part he participated in.

No? He isn't “somewhat agreeing” nor can you lie in this obvious way. He literally disagreed and proposed his own ratings I can literally call the others and they'll say you can't fraud reasoning. People have been reported over this.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

No? He isn't “somewhat agreeing” nor can you lie in this obvious way. He literally disagreed and proposed his own ratings I can literally call the others and they'll say you can't fraud reasoning. People have been reported over this.

No, he downgraded everything that was "1A+" according to his own opinion to High 1-B+ or Low 1-A, while keeping the Tower at 1A+. Lastly, he considered cosmological peak structures as High 1-A. That’s why I noted in parentheses that I agreed with him on the High 1-A part (but not on the infinitely layered High 1-A). Also, you cannot call someone a liar or a fraud—know your place.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

No, he downgraded everything that was "1A+" according to his own opinion to High 1-B+ or Low 1-A, while keeping the Tower at 1A+. Lastly, he considered cosmological peak structures as High 1-A. That’s why I noted in parentheses that I agreed with him on the High 1-A part (but not on the infinitely layered High 1-A). Also, you cannot call someone a liar or a fraud—know your place.

Last point but in his own words:

You can feel that way, but I don't see it personally. You'll just have to list me as disagreeing with High 1-A+ as a rating.

I'm calling the mods to overview it since you want to be hard-headed and unaccepting of disagreements when they are not your judgment calls to make.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

I'm calling the mods to overview it since you want to be hard-headed and unaccepting of disagreements when they are not your judgment calls to make.

As you can see, he says that he wants to be seen as someone who does not agree with High 1-A+. I simply placed him in a special category by noting only the parts he agreed with. On the other hand, as I have stated many times before—but since you insist, I have to clarify it again—I am not harassing or putting anyone in a difficult position. All I am doing is eliminating question marks and asking why those who disagree (either because they haven't provided a reason or because there are aspects I can respond to) do not agree. Other than that, you are free to do whatever you want.

 

[Apotheosis69]

@Jason_Voorhees1986 A CRT can Not have a "Somewhat Agree", as that'll just create a lot of convolutions and confusions about different stances. There has to be a Hard Line in the sand.

Based on what Qawsed has stated, you'll have to put him in Disagreed (For High 1-A) that is.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

@Jason_Voorhees1986 A CRT can Not have a "Somewhat Agree", as that'll just create a lot of convolutions and confusions about different stances.

Based on what Qawsed has stated, you'll have to put him in Disagreed (For High 1-A+) that is.

The disagreement isn't on the tier itself, it’s the proposal itself. Qaws take on High 1-A is baseline and one layer while the OP suggests otherwise. The two parties didn't even come to a consensus or decision they just don't agree with each other views. Thus, it's a disagreement entirely.

 

[Apotheosis69]

@AbaddonTheDisappointment @Abstractions @ActuallySpaceMan42 @Andytrenom @ByAsura @Catzlaflame @Crabwhale @CrimsonStarFallen @Damage3245 @DarkDragonMedeus @Deagonx @DemonGodMitchAubin @Dereck03 @DontTalkDT @Duedate8898 @Elizhaa @Elizio33 @Emirp sumitpo @Everything12 @FinePoint @Firestorm808 @GrathOfLux @GyroNutz @JustSomeWeirdo @KingTempest @LordGriffin1000 @LordTracer @LephyrTheRevanchist @Maverick_Zero_X @Nierre @Planck69 @RatherClueless @SamanPatou @Starter_Pack @Sir_Ovens @Theglassman12 @UchihaSlayer96 @Ultima_Reality @Wokistan

Your stances here would be most beneficial.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

@Jason_Voorhees1986 A CRT can Not have a "Somewhat Agree", as that'll just create a lot of convolutions and confusions about different stances. There has to be a Hard Line in the sand.

Based on what Qawsed has stated, you'll have to put him in Disagreed (For High 1-A) that is.

Actually, this situation can be interpreted in extended perspectives, as it aligns with certain aspects of CRT, such as hierarchical structures and planes, while not fully adhering to High 1-A+. In other words, it agrees with 90% of the revision but does not align with the final point of this content. Anyway, I will give it a try.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Actually, this situation can be interpreted in extended perspectives, as it aligns with certain aspects of CRT, such as hierarchical structures and planes, while not fully adhering to High 1-A+. In other words, it agrees with 90% of the revision but does not align with the final point of this content. Anyway, I will give it a try.

Even if it aligns with most of the CRT, it has to be a unanimous agreement on all statements to be fully agreed.

Now you can Change/fix your CRT for it to be more accurate/aligning to their perspectives for it to be an Agreement.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

Even if it aligns with most of the CRT, it has to be a unanimous agreement on all statements to be fully agreed.

Now you can Change/fix your CRT for it to be more accurate/aligning to their perspectives for it to be an Agreement.

I just did this a moment ago. No problem.
However, it’s not such a bad idea for an admin who believes that a large portion of the content revision is correct to be placed in a category like "Somewhat Agree." This is because it reinforces the idea that a significant part of the content revision has been substantially approved—in other words, that it is considered correct. However, since the main topic of the content revision is not High 1-A, I will agree with you on this without any disagreement.

 

[Antvasima]

The disagreement isn't on the tier itself, it’s the proposal itself. Qaws take on High 1-A is baseline and one layer while the OP suggests otherwise. The two parties didn't even come to a consensus or decision they just don't agree with each other views. Thus, it's a disagreement entirely.

Okay. The summary of his decisions seems to need to be adjusted then.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

Okay. The summary of his decisions seems to need to be adjusted then.

How do the results look so far? I'm not talking about content revision, but about those who participated and those who didn't.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know, what do Qawsedf234, VeryGoofyToddler2, and our other staff members think that we should do here, and why?

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

I do not know, what do Qawsedf234, VeryGoofyToddler2, and our other staff members think that we should do here, and why?

There's been a total of three administrators that have put their opinions on the matter. DarkDragons wants a summary, Firestorm hasn't put his official position, and Qawsed disagrees with the tier proposal.

We could wait for what DarkDragon and Firestorm have to think or we can try to comprise an agreement on certain tiers. Ultima had said he wanted to do the revision himself so perhaps he would be the best person to ask.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know, what do Qawsedf234, VeryGoofyToddler2, and our other staff members think that we should do here, and why?

There's been a total of three administrators that have put their opinions on the matter. DarkDragons wants a summary, Firestorm hasn't put his official position, and Qawsed disagrees with the tier proposal.

We could wait for what DarkDragon and Firestorm have to think or we can try to comprise an agreement on certain tiers. Ultima had said he wanted to do the revision himself so perhaps he would be the best person to ask.

Is somebody willing to provide a summary please, so I can call for the administrators in question afterwards?

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

Is somebody willing to provide a summary please, so I can call for the administrators in question afterwards?

It would probably be quite difficult to do this comprehensively because I could copy and resend the "results" sections written on the cosmology page, but if a decision is to be made, it's important that they read the panels on the cosmology page. This way, they will understand the intended explanations much better. I can briefly explain here which structure surpasses which, but if I go into too much detail (since there are so many panels), it would no longer be a summary and would essentially become a second page for the cosmology section. Nevertheless, I will do my best.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

Is somebody willing to provide a summary please, so I can call for the administrators in question afterwards?

Here is the summary. You can inform someone about this brief summary

Universes:

It's not over until now, but I'll touch on it again later. In the light of the data we currently have, it sounds good to say that the levels of a single macrocosm universe will give a result of 1-A+. Because there is a CONSISTENT universe hierarchy of a kind that is extremely rare for its kind. As a result, we have inaccessible levels whose levels of universes are far beyond the understanding of even ontologically higher beings, and high levels of reality that see each other as mirages, macrocosm worlds clustered together as the “infinity of infinity”. The most crucial point here is that the mirage analogy has some kind of conceptual or fiction-reality superiority. The fact that mirages are imaginary, so to speak, illusion-like things, and the fact that the level where Ralph is located is described as REAL LIFE compared to other levels, really confirms the existence of a 1-A+ hierarchy here. If we were to consider only the context in which they appear to be "mirages," it would be a weak context. However, when Ralph leaves the town of Derry, which he knows as real life, and rises to higher levels, he instantly interprets his current state as "Now, This Is Real Life." In short, we have a large number of 1-A+ macrocosm hierarchies.

Dark Tower:

After all, the Dark Tower is an infinitely layered High 1-A structure in its own right. Because it transcends the multiverse to the fullest and follows an ordered hierarchy within itself, which also considers each other as fiction. Under normal circumstances, this would only add an extra infinite layer to tier 1-A+, since the multiverse rises in hierarchies with fiction-reality transcendence, but since the region where the Dark Tower is located is defined as beyond the laws of the multiverse and reality, it means that this Tower is a meta-structure managed by a completely different algorithm. In Bessa, there will be a scale to this tier in the same way. As a result, the Dark Tower is an infinitely layered High 1-A structure with a single meta qualitative superiority.

Beams, Beam Guardians and Demon Elementals:

Even though the Beams share the same plane as the Dark Tower, they must rise one layer above the Dark Tower, since the protective Beam Guardians exist on a plane that even the Ka, a power that encompasses even the Dark Tower, will never reach, and they are the same kind of beings with the same characteristics as like Maturin. As a result, they will gain an extra layer against the infinitely layered High 1-A structure. (Infinite Layered Meta Superiority and an extra layer)

Sea of Prim:

In the light of these data, it is clearly revealed that the Prim Sea is actually the archetype of all cosmological structures up to now. As it turns out, Prim's action of revealing everything I mentioned earlier makes it a gigantic structure on the same scale as the Guardians, the highest cosmological peak at the moment. (Infinite Layered Meta Superiority and an extra layer)

All Possible Worlds:

It contains all possible identical, stable identities known to be consistent and all possible manifestations of life and experience. These possibilities also include stories written in real life and are said to be infinite. In a way, All Possible Worlds = All Possible Stories. Although they are all brought to life by the raw magic of the Prim Sea, which devours nothingness, the being that creates these worlds is Dark Tower/Gan, the avatar of the god Gan.

Todash Darkness - Deadlights and Maturin:

As a result, the tier of both supreme divine beings is High 1-A+ (Type 1) Because even the Prim Sea, which is the source of all possible worlds that are logically consistent and identical, is just a drop encompassed within the Macroverse. This means that Todash is the cosmological pinnacle that contains all possible worlds, with no exceptions or adherence to any hierarchical plane. In the light of the data we have, the fact that Pennywise is integrated with his own infinity in a darkness called the Macroverse shows that he may cover a large part of the possible worlds. While Maturin carries all the physical worlds and the Tower on his back by himself, the fact that Pennywise is Maturin's brother and a Demon Elemental who is his opposite reveals that the only watching Turtle and the only eating It, both representing good and evil, are the two cosmic forces that provide power in the deep dark rooms of the Macroverse. Even if Maturin is not qualitatively superior to Pennywise, it is stated that he is a power that eclipses his power, which indicates that both should be included in the same echelon.

Final Other and Final Void:

God Gan is definitely worthy of the High 1-A+ (Type 2) tier. Although he shares the same ultimate void as Pennywise and Maturin in another space within the Macroverse, Gan is clearly the Divine Creator of the cosmology and is far superior to entities like Pennywise and Maturin. All possible worlds are merely manifestations of God Gan and originate from his pen. Ka, the divine essence of existence, is the fundamental source of life and soul for every living being. No writer can be Gan. No painter, no sculptor, no music producer can be Gan. All writers (including the authors of real-life works such as Marvel Comics or Red Death) are prophets of Gan. Gan is the ultimate source of the fictional stories that writers carefully craft through their imagination, and all stories come to life through this Divine Creator.

 

[Qawsedf234]

On the other hand, Qawsedf234 has the ability to express themselves, whereas you do not have the authority to speak or defend anyone on their behalf. As I’ve said before, please only reflect your own thoughts and do not speak for others.

Goofy is right. I disagree with this thread and offered my own ratings of where I stand. I absolutely do not agree with the thread as is.

 

[Udlmaster]

there can't be more than one STRUCTURE or PLACE High 1A+ (at most 2 if there are really noteworthy contexts) But as far as I understand, more than one character can be High 1-A+ because the position and power of these characters on these structures are very important. It's clear that there are multiple High 1-A+ entities in the updated World of Darkness profiles.

The Wyld, Weaver, Wyrm and Gaia are all equal manifestations of the greater reality that is the Supernal.

When they're manifest into reality they are part of the Cosmic Cycle.

They themselves alone aren't Type 2, only the Supernal is, something which is beyond naming and intellection.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

Bump

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

I am fine with Qawsedf234's suggested tiers here.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler2]

That's two administrators disagreement against the OP proposal unless the OP wants to change based on what is suggested here.

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

That's two administrators disagreement against the OP proposal unless the OP wants to change based on what is suggested here.

After Ultima reviews this content, I might change some things about it. For now, I'm letting most things flow naturally.

 

[Antvasima]

@Firestorm808 @DarkDragonMedeus @Ultima_Reality

What do you think about this? Qawsedf234 disagrees.

Dark Tower: High 1-A Content Revision

Yes, which is why I mentioned it and why I still don't feel like its enough. The definition I mentioned aligns well with the current tier system's High 1-A+ explanation. The apex of this tier, represented also by a "+" modifier in their Attack Potency section (High Outerverse level+)...

vsbattles.com

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

Bump

 

[Jason_Voorhees1986]

Bump