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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Bleach - Footwonders
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Finally something other than Timbs and Yeezys...Bleach - Footwonders
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Askin minor revision
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Askin_Nakk_Le_Vaar In Askin's profile his Gift Bereich has sealing since it's inescapable. But it mentions people with dimensional travel can enter or exit which is incorrect. Urahara agrees with inescapable part and explicitely mentions he needed to open a...
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Can anyone check this thread? Someone made a match against Askin which I dont know the character Askin is fighting against
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Askin Nakk Le Vaar (Bleach) vs Kai (Ninjago) [0-7-0] (GRACE ENDED)
Fake Green Ninja and Fake Aizen gets into a beef and decides to fight Rules: Pilots-Season 16 key is used for Kai and has access to his golden Katana Base Askin is used Speed is equalized Fight takes place in Chen's Island Jungle Starting Distance: 5m SBA for the rest Askin: Kai...
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Zaraki got upgraded, but do you guys think he could have done something against Yhwach?
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Would get killed nonetheless even more hopeless than Ichigo.Zaraki got upgraded, but do you guys think he could have done something against Yhwach?
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None of the captain in tybw surpassed yamamoto.Zaraki got upgraded, but do you guys think he could have done something against Yhwach?
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What's your argument for Yamamoto > Zaraki?
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I don't see him above adult toshiro. Yamamoto > adult toshiro.
Cfyow also has statement implying yamamoto still being strongest post war.
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What's the argument for Yamamoto > adult Toshiro?
Also the CFYOW statement is in relation to people who are Tokinada and Shunsui level. In fact, Zaraki in CFYOW is just fighting transcendent people lol.
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TYBW Ayon now one-taps all the Espada at once lol
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4-A and Mach 100 look crazy
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TYBW Anime Cour 3 [Shunsui Edition]
This sandbox contains Shunsui's Cour 3 for his Thousand Year Blood War key specifically. You'll also notice that Robert and Byakuya are in this sandbox. I'm not proposing anything new for them, but Robert gets his scaling from Shunsui, and Byakuya gets scaling from Robert, so they would be...
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I'm of the opinion that Zaraki didn’t become massively stronger, just stronger, and considering there's not a single statement placing Yamamoto above Zaraki after he unlocked his Shikai and Bankai, scaling Yamamoto above him becomes entirely a matter of personal choice.
However, in CFYOW, we find a plethora of statements that place Zaraki well above him. Additionally, the narrative of the "Top 5 Threats" even ranks Zaraki highest in terms of combat strength. Given this, I see no reason to consider Zaraki weaker than Yamamoto. In fact, if we’re aiming for the most likely interpretation, Zaraki has more consistent proof supporting his placement above.
That said, if someone can present evidence that clearly scales Yamamoto above Zaraki after he unlocked his Shikai and Bankai, I’m open to revising my stance
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That can be an argument. Considering she knew the extent of yamamoto's power being in the same plane of power.
But that also raises question about if she is stronger than yamamoto being the kenpachi
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Naw Unohana is just not stronger than Yamamoto, we got more statements implying Yamamoto > Unohana through Aizen considering Yama more of a threat, Yama believing he's stronger than her, and the databook agreeing.
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Ayon
Ayon (アヨン, Ayon) is a Chimera-like Hollow created by the Quimera Parca ability, made from left arms of Tier Harribel's fraccion. Tier: At least 6-B | 5-C, possibly 4-A Key: Arrancar Arc | Thousand Year Blood War Name: Ayon Origin: Bleach Gender: Unknown Age: Unknown Classification: Hollow Powers...
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This makes sense
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Typo on my part, it’s supposed to be PetaFoeJust checked the numbers, and I'm pretty sure Ayon's supposed to be 126.6 PetaFoe, not ExaFoe. If he was, he'd be around 7-100X stronger then Yamamoto, depending on which form lolAyon
Ayon (アヨン, Ayon) is a Chimera-like Hollow created by the Quimera Parca ability, made from left arms of Tier Harribel's fraccion. Tier: At least 6-B | 5-C, possibly 4-A Key: Arrancar Arc | Thousand Year Blood War Name: Ayon Origin: Bleach Gender: Unknown Age: Unknown Classification: Hollow Powers...
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I don't think there's that much difference between Yamamoto, Unohana, and Aizen. Unohana openly admitted inferiority to Kid Zaraki, who had already begun suppressing himself, and that was Zaraki wielding a nameless sword. It’s honestly absurd. I doubt either Yamamoto or Aizen were anywhere near that powerful as children using unnamed blades.
Then Zaraki grew into an adult, adding the power he had suppressed since childhood, and obtained a true Zanpakutō with a name on top of that. Personally, I agree with Narita, Zaraki is straight-up superior to Yamamoto.
Some might find it odd that Toshiro is also portrayed as being that strong, but I think it aligns with Kubo's plan, he has good chance to be future head of the Gotei 13. He was already fighting a Top 3 Espada as a kid. Compare that to other outstanding Shinigami like Shunsui, at Toshiro’s age, they probably wouldn’t have been able to take on even an Espada’s Fracción since Shunsui or Byakuya, at Toshiro age were still in academy, let alone fight one of the top Espada.
Then Zaraki grew into an adult, adding the power he had suppressed since childhood, and obtained a true Zanpakutō with a name on top of that. Personally, I agree with Narita, Zaraki is straight-up superior to Yamamoto.
Some might find it odd that Toshiro is also portrayed as being that strong, but I think it aligns with Kubo's plan, he has good chance to be future head of the Gotei 13. He was already fighting a Top 3 Espada as a kid. Compare that to other outstanding Shinigami like Shunsui, at Toshiro’s age, they probably wouldn’t have been able to take on even an Espada’s Fracción since Shunsui or Byakuya, at Toshiro age were still in academy, let alone fight one of the top Espada.
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Toshiro's feat in tybw is better than zaraki. Zaraki has it. Just couldn’t utilize that power until cfyow. Hence he should be below yamamoto in tybw key.
My point is yamamoto has direct statement about his destruction capability.
Him being stronger than gremmy can be just a solid supportive evidence. And yeah we have seen dimension getting destroyed by thermal eruption.
So I just want yamamoto's case to be reevaluated separately.
I'm just not well versed in this kinda calc to specific how they are treated, like where would it scale or would flat out scale to 3A (destruction of a dimension big as soul society)
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I personally think Yama is stronger considering he’s pretty much a walking cataclysmic event. I’m honestly shocked he is even allowed to use it. I can’t really visualize him losing to any of the other captains besides probably adult Toshiro assuming he isn’t just completely negged like before. But that’s just my personal opinion.
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I wouldn't trust the Bleach wiki for shit involving canon
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He can just end battle very quick.
And the interpretation may be if he uses it for too long it might get out of control and destroy everything.
He is best at controling reatsu. So may be that's why he is allowed. Like it won't threaten everybody immediately.
Anyway do you think this qualifies for straight 3A or it needs some calc?
Cause I dunno if I can touch this when SZ are sitting at 4A and god tiers at 3B.
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Btw that OPM crt got Saitama accepted to not only have NPI for souls, but also gives him soul manipulation resists
OPM Phoenix space, Spirit world and Spirits
I think Saitama's Soul Manipulation will also cover Resistance to Soul Manipulation, considering that Phoenix Man, who has Soul Manipulation, doesn't dare to do anything to Saitama. That's because he's scared of Saitama who's "too mysterious" and had an intense "pressure". Being scared of dying...
Would this allow Saitama to resist soul crush now?
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There is still some disagreement, so hold off for now.Btw that OPM crt got Saitama accepted to not only have NPI for souls, but also gives him soul manipulation resists
OPM Phoenix space, Spirit world and Spirits
I think Saitama's Soul Manipulation will also cover Resistance to Soul Manipulation, considering that Phoenix Man, who has Soul Manipulation, doesn't dare to do anything to Saitama. That's because he's scared of Saitama who's "too mysterious" and had an intense "pressure". Being scared of dying...
Would this allow Saitama to resist soul crush now?
Granted, I don't think it would let him resist Spirual Pressure anyway since it's a very different type of soul manipulation from this.
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Well at least quincy matches are more likely to be possible
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