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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

Celestial_Pegasus said:
What are the passives?
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They have a passive domain around them that allows; Vector Manip (Stops Projectiles), Death Manip (Hundred Meters of her), Law Manip & Physics Manip & Matter Manip (Laws of Physics and Matter), Illusion Creation & Subjective Reality (Interfere with Reality or turn their Dreams into Reality), also she's a Conceptual Virus if she uses her Transformation (Corroding and Controlling Living Beings).

Also, just looking at her will cause Pain Manipulation (Soul Ezploding levels of Pain and thousands of Different Tortures), Soul Manipulation (Your Soul is pulled towards them), Biological Manipulation (your eyes explode, you bleed everywhere, and your body gets warped), Transmutation, and possession (you change fundamentally, becoming part of her, and being possessed if she dies).

Also, she's just... really Immortal.
 
Setsuna_tenma said:
No they have 4d stuff not tier 1 stuff. Tier 1 stuff for 10B starts above them with molecule man 1A hax.
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Alright thank you.

In that case nominating this girl for 6th place in 10-C, and 5th place in 10-B (At bare minimum be tied with Lily). She has everything Monika has and far more with NEP of All Natures and Aspects akin to characters like IX and Alva. Text and Plot Manip, and a boatload of passives. She also has this guy do her fighting for her in case things get physical.
 
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Setsuna_tenma said:
No they have 4d stuff not tier 1 stuff. Tier 1 stuff for 10B starts above them with molecule man 1A hax.
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Actually Griffin had Tier Low 1-C stuff

AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Alright thank you.

In that case nominating this girl for 6th place in 10-C, and 5th place in 10-B (At bare minimum be tied with Lily). She has everything Monika has and far more with NEP of All Natures and Aspects akin to characters like IX and Alva. Text and Plot Manip, and a boatload of passives. She also has this guy do her fighting for her in case things get physical.
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But the AE and Nep save her from him be able to interact with her.... that until I finished give everyone and even a simple insect the ability to force existence into nonexistence by looking lol and Anyone with higher D Manipulation will be able to interact with concepts
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
Actually Griffin had Tier Low 1-C stuff


But the AE and Nep save her from him be able to interact with her.... that until I finished give everyone and even a simple insect the ability to force existence into nonexistence by looking lol and Anyone with higher D Manipulation will be able to interact with concepts
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Are you talking about Monika or Lily? Yuel and Caius can interact with and affect AE1 and all natures of NEP.
 
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AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Are you talking about Monika or Lily? Yuel and Caius can interact with and affect AE1 and all natures of NEP.
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Griffin, who is below Monika and Lily cant interact with both, however, in the very moment Doctor Who get update, he will be able to do do it so well is with Yuel, with his hax since he can affect Time Lords' biodata (which is all aspect of Nep give it is part of the primordial void known as Time Vortex)
 
Oliver_de_jesus said:
Griffin, who is below Monika and Lily cant interact with both, however, in the very moment Doctor Who get update, he will be able to do do it so well is with Yuel, with his hax since he can affect Time Lords' biodata (which is all aspect of Nep give it is part of the primordial void known as Time Vortex)
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Ah ok, I misunderstood. Well just request Griffin to move up after he gets the update to interact with Type 2 NEP. Though...is that all he's gonna get because he seems to have...almost no resistances.
 
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It's a shame but Vampire Hunter D lost his 8-C, High 6-C, High 6-B and 6-A keys, he should be removed from those positions

He, however, gained a 3-C key and I'm sure he has a chance at the Top 15
 
Any strong passives, and their potency?

Additionally, any good resistances to Concept destruction and soul + mind destruction, or just pure atomic stuff?
 
In Low 5-B, Saiki should have been higher than Both Ruphas and Taurus. Especially Taurus. He has to make physical contact to utilise his ability. I don't even know why he's there in the first place. Ruphas Low 5-B key doesn't have anything to compete with Saiki at all.
 
Rikimarox2 said:
Any strong passives, and their potency?
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All his aura passives are at conceptual level as they work down to the fount of life (4D), full vampire form adds layers of resistance bypassing

His regular attacks also have that passive concept hax that negates high godly regen and EEs you, multiple layers of negation through transformations and techniques
Rikimarox2 said:
Additionally, any good resistances to Concept destruction and soul + mind destruction, or just pure atomic stuff?
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All resisted afaik, D's soul is non-existent and mind in VHD is linked to the soul, although good NPI could affect it
 
Honkai has been nerfed from 1-A+ to 1-B (as in baseline 12D), so they should get lowered on the 3-C and High 1-C lists
 
I'd like to discuss Bill Cipher (and maybe later Time Baby) for both the Top 5-B and 3-C.

For the latter there's this fight with Yhwach, given he did already beat Spongebob.

For 5-B instead I don't know.

EDIT: It has been closed as Bill stomps due to 1-B (13D) smurfery. Because of this, he should be at 3rd place in 3-C, as Hoyoverse smurfs are 11/12D, and 4th place in 5-B for same reason.

Though given that Bill himself is Immeasurable^2, could he share a spot with Marvel Characters while specifying that it's only at Unequal speed (unless Marvel characters also have such speed)?
 
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Characters from Punishing Gray Raven for a spot in 2-A below Anos (unless they are smurfs that I'm not aware of), the reps being Lee and the Hetero Tower. They can also be thrown in Low 6-B for a free spot too.

Smash Bros should be removed from Low 6-B (It was supposed to be Mario Bros but they got upgraded to High 6-A so...). Replace them with characters from Danny Phantom

Since Kain doesn't have a Low 6-B key (For some reason) replace him with Emperor Mateus and just rename the Low 6-B section to Characters from Final Fantasy

Also why is the The Player from Wizard not higher on the 2-A list? Since their hax is Low 1-C to 1-A, I'm pretty sure that would put them in 3rd or 4th.
 
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AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Also why is the The Player from Wizard not higher on the 2-A list? Since their hax is Low 1-C to 1-A, I'm pretty sure that would put them in 3rd or 4th.
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Bump (Don't know if Dragon Tailsman has 1-A stuff but if not The Player from Wizard would be at least 4th in 2-A)

Due to the whole Tensura controversies going on, they lost their 5-D smurf shenanigans with most of the top tiers being 2-C and the God Tiers being 2-A. As such Ramiris should drop down to 6th place in 10-C. Tensura characters could probably take a spot in 2-C at 6th place, and Veldanava can have a spot in 2-A in 9th above Punishing Gray Raven.

To make 2-A even more stacked with competition characters from Magic The Gathering in last behind Pokemon

Lastly characters from Guilty Gear for 1st place in Low 4-C since I don't think anyone on that list is a Tier 1 smurf
 
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AlphaOmegaV1 said:
Bump (Don't know if Dragon Tailsman has 1-A stuff but if not The Player from Wizard would be at least 4th in 2-A due to Low 1-C ~ 1-A smurf)

Due to the whole Tensura controversies going on, they lost their 5-D smurf shenanigans with most of the top tiers being 2-C and the God Tiers being 2-A. As such Ramiris should drop down to 6th place in 10-C. Tensura characters could probably take a spot in 2-C at 6th place, and Veldanava can have a spot in 2-A in 9th above Punishing Gray Raven.

To make 2-A even more stacked with competition characters from Magic The Gathering in last behind Pokemon

Lastly characters from Guilty Gear for 1st place in Low 4-C since I don't think anyone on that list is a Tier 1 smurf
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Bump
 
Suimei incon Kelly for Low 7-C, but won speed unequalized, so idk how that works, at the very least they should share the #1 spot.

Characters from Isekai Mahou will be the spot below Kelly.
 
Coming back to up the spots of Wang Wei. Dude got his passive upgraded a bit, with Soul/Concept (type 3)/Mind crush, as well as body shenanigans, and death inducement. He also got his Non-Duality Upgraded (Only last 2 keys) to Type 3, but it's selective, so eh.

So, a few questions. Why is Xuan Fang in 2-C above Castlevania characters? Don't they just, meme on him via Plot Manip? And Oryx is there. Regardless, Wang Wei can be above Darkseid, as iirc, they are outdated(?) with the supporter agreeing with this as well iirc. As for Epic Battle Fantasy, I don't think ND3 would help? Although the plot stuff is just really, eh. The concept type 1 of the verse is sketchy, and I'm honestly not sure how the player could even win against WW if they are not actively manipulating the plot to kill him instead of just controlling the characters. Though I'll wait for supporters.

As for 3-A, what is Gu's shenanigans? If they are 3-D and the same as Chen Qi, I think Wang Wei could just, passively kill him via layers?

For 5-B, I think I asked this before, but how come Kang is above Skarbrand, considering Warhammer's "le funny 1-A resistances to everyone"?

For 4-C, does Dante have 4-D shenanigans? If not, I think WW comfortably takes his spot. Otherwise, rip.
 
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