How the hell is he damaging a pseudo-invulnerable guy with quantum resistance or some shit?
How does his pesudo-invulnerability work? Everything that Haki bypasses is kinda contextual to the setting. I don't know what the consensus is regarding how it works in other series, but I think it comes down to the details of how the resistance works.
Armstrong's Invulnerability is basically his hardening being like 2 one-shots above his casual AP. And can neg macro-quantum cutting.
Zoro's Goken worked on Daz Bones.
Has Daz Bones tanked quantum-cutting blades with next to no damage and broke the laws of physics to snap one in two with his bare hands?
This has nothing to do with his ability to somehow avoid getting cut in half by Zoro's goken techniques. Armstrong has explicit physic manipulation and resistance to quantum manip so that's not answering how he's just not going to get cut.
Yeah, because that kind of shit does next to no damage.
No I do not. Goken is not related to Quantum hax so Armstrong's resistance to Quantum hax is not relevant. Armstrong has a durability rating and its not high enough to where Goken's durability negation would not work. Because of this, unless he genuinely has an answer such a sufficient durability amp or speed amp to dodge, I don't see him surviving long.
He becomes "invulnerable" to conventional AP as long as the nanomachines cover the body (black thing in the veins, think of it like a strong defense). He also is immune to blades that cut at the Planck scale. This is not his actual durability however, only his nanomachines' defense.
The durability rating is excluding the nanomachine defense. You need to be faster to outpace it. His durability amp is literally the nanomachines enhancing his base durability.
Zoro uses goken with his blitz level speed amps so I doubt this will be an issue.
He has no issue reacting to Blade Mode which does just that.
Let me rephrase then. He has blitz level amps relative to his base stats. Since base speeds are equalized between Zoro and Armstrong, a blitz level amp will definitely be very useful.
Raiden has a blitz level amp to his base stats. Since speed is equalized, he can also react to that.
So from what it seems, no amount of Zoro's cutting power will work here, its entirely down to whether haki can overcome this resistance.
It refers to what he used to cut Mr. 1's body (Although I'm not sure where the name Mighty Blade comes from)
Oh that's a fair point. I never considered that to be Haki, I had always interpreted that as a form of 'Voice of All Things'. If we are considering that phenomena to be an early use of Haki, then yes, I think it would be able to cut through Armstrong's defence.
What is this based on? This is Enies Lobby Zoro. He is very much capable of using it whenever he needs.
Still gotta prove it can get past his defense.
How often does Zoro use this ability in the time between Alabasta and Enies Lobby? He certainly isn't using it on every attack, and I have no reason to believe that he can use that ability any better/with faster activation than when he did in Alabasta. Would love to be proven wrong here with scans/evidence here if you have any.
He immediately trained to use it at will after his fight with Mr.1 in Alabasta.
Awesome, thanks for the evidence. Guess I just missed these details. In that case, yeah I think Zoro could overcome this resistance, but I'm unsure if that would allow him to win or just to make it a more even fight.He immediately trained to use it at will after his fight with Mr.1 in Alabasta.
By Skypiea he's shown to be able to use the power at will when he cut through Ohm's Iron Sword with his flying slashes.
And in Enies Lobby he used it at will whenever he needed to use it, albeit unsuccessfully. He attempted to use it against Kaku who seemingly had prior knowledge and avoided taking the attack directly instead countering with an air slash. And the limit of Zoro's ability at the time was shown when he failed to cut through Enies Lobby's underground Passage (This was shown again against Kuma in Thriller Bark)|
But regardless by this point he's shown to be able to use it at will with any of his attacks (flying slash attacks included) and willl use it as many times as he needs when he realizes the durability of his opponent requires it.
Does he have any idea what nanomachines son are?
I certainly don't. Could you explain this? I'm still not certain who wins this
Basically, going off by what I’ve seen in-game, they are an ultimate defense by hardening the bonds between atoms and molecules (and even go quantum level) against physical trauma, basically making sure his body doesn’t break apart when energy is exerted on him that should either damage him or kill him, probably, which would explain why he’s able to completely shrug off high-frequency blades (and snap one) and survive attacks that would be lethal to him. Although not making him invincible, it makes him incredibly resilient to most conventional AP and such types of physical durability negation, that’s why it’s “Pseudo-Invulnerability”, you need superior speed to bypass it (see what Sam and Raiden did)
So the issue here is the discussion of whether Haki, which has duraneg, would be effective here. Everything I've heard so far seems to point towards Haki being effective against this, but I'm still not convinced that, even if Zoro can cut through the nanomachines, he could beat Armstrong.
This is interesting though. Would it be reasonable for Zoro to notice this and wait for Armstrong to attack to create an opening?
He can also regenerate, at least High Low and possibly Mid-level if he scales to Vamp.
Armstrong's style is more of catching the opponent off-guard at first, giving them a taste then force them to go on edge, so it is unlikely unless he can survive a prolonged fight against Armstrong's offense or even get past his counter-attacking defense. He is smart and knows how to use his abilities. He may or may not also break his blade for fun. However, does not mistake it as being dumb. He knows how to counterattack and hold at bay even skilled fighters like Raiden.
Thats how I feel about it too, but other people in this thread seem to think he can use it more frequently.
My friend has watched One Piece and the way he described me Haki doesn't seem very spammable
