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[Buzzer sound] flying beyond Space and Time is not an immeasurable statement on it's own.
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Undertale Revise and Rebirth
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They can tank just like they can dodge it.
Why do you think their HP remain intact otherwise if they dodge (otherwise they are left at 1)?
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The actual attack is a sucking attack so if anything she’s dodging debris along the way.
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which are pieces of the timeline as that is what the Hyper Goner is targetting
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And where did you get that from lol?
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The debris being pieces of the timeline that's being absorbed?
Like what else can you interpret it as lol.
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...context clues? Like from what Asriel said IMMEDIATELY BEFORE using that attack? Like keep in mind me and Strym are practically oil and water when it comes to handling UT and we both agree your fuller of shit than a Christmas turkey on this.
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I agree with Strym and Reaper's rebuttals; lots of this is just arguing against face value facts. Especially the variable speed ratings.
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can you please explain what you mean by that? The ap rating can be taken at face value but the speed ratings especially for immeasurable speed should have a statement that backs it up, like every other verse does.
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Especially since moments were still passing as the game states
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The variable ratings for AP also apply to other statistics such as speed accordingly. Characters being "Sometimes Immeasurable" is a thing; like Wally West for example.
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the thing is Wally West isn’t sometimes immeasurable even here in the wiki his rating is immeasurable out right.
Plus it wouldn’t make sense if they were fighting and one dropped to less then immeasurable speeds
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He can vary his speed via speed steal; also. It seems our revisions on DC have been getting all over the place, but he's usually only Immeasurable in terms of travel speed. But can reach Immeasurable combat and reaction through abilities like speed steal; such as when he outran an instant transmission. Characters have variables ranging from 9-B to Tier 1, the same thing can happen to speed.
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Sonic the Hedgehog (Modern)
Sonic the Hedgehog is Sega's mascot and the eponymous protagonist of the Sonic the Hedgehog video game series. He is an anthropomorphic hedgehog born with the ability to run faster than the speed of sound, hence his name, and possesses lightning-fast reflexes to match. As his species implies...
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You don't fight people after Asriel unless ya reset.
Also, Varies doesn't care about what you find makes sense, it cares about what is actually variable.
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Speed steal isn’t quite the same within the context of DC, their speed is determined by their connection to the speed force but speed steal has never taken a flash from immeasurable to MFTL+ or any finite tier.
By if I may ask why would you assume this is the same case for UT especially when they were in a fight to the death?
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Because their Determination always varies? They always fight to the death in UT, but that isn't a reason to say they're always at their peak (otherwise they'd be always 2-B too and that would make no sense in the story).
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Bugs Bunny is a far better example given he's literally like Frisk lol
Bugs Bunny
Bugs Bunny is an animated cartoon character, the iconic mascot of Warner Brothers and the primary protagonist throughout much of the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies series of animated short films. He is an anthropomorphic gray and white rabbit who is famous for his flippant, nonchalant...
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And honestly I think that Frisk's DT goes back to normal after Asriel fight, given that Player cannot TRUE RESET after it unless the route is completed and Player disconnects from the vessel (Frisk). Not the first time it happens - you can fight on equals against Undyne the Undying, defeat her, and much later fight as equally against Hotland/CORE NPCs.
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I was asked to close this thread on the basis of it being rejected.
(For the record, I also share the same view of DDM on the matter)
So, closing.
(For the record, I also share the same view of DDM on the matter)
So, closing.
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