Still, an argument to be made. I can easily concur one, not that it's relevant but it would need to be the full visualization of Eternity, which is a header case to argue for no doubt(I may just drop it for this one) than the M-Body representation of Eternity confining 616. Either way, I don't plan to do this too soon so there's time to reread.
I'll handle that. They just need to read the blog first.Well, I changed my mind, but we still have to figure out how we should rationalise or explain the inconsistencies with mortals interacting with deities as equals in their own realms.
1-A Gods in their true essence as there's a scan saying they transcends dimensions entirely and they view lower beings as paintings in caves as they're in all places and unbound by time.
There will be notes for dividing their avatars from their actual divinity.
That.
To clarify, there is a proposed second level of qualitative difference between the Elder Gods in Shadow and the Asgardians, the first being human and general gods?
Yeah, Elder Gods in their true nature can rival the Abstracts.
Something like that.
Semantics, really. “Materialize” just means appearing in form since their scared divinity is always connected to them but its inherently beyond human comprehension. They're always more or less “that” just with the touch in their natural “godly” state, they are unbound by time, space, or dimension. That's why they can casually manipulate said concept even without being in their true nature.
Is there an example of where True Thor is while the Avatar/Emanation is doing stuff?
It’s indirectly notioned since Donald Blake(Up until more recent stories) is his mortal form while his Asgardian form is “Thor.” However, they're all connected with their inner essence that's not “seen” but works in tandem with the form they appear in their realms.
If I'm understanding this proposal correctly, whenever Thor is on Asgard, this is his True Form. When he travels to Earth, his True Form disappears from Asgard and "reduces" to a suitable Avatar for Earth.
Well, given that regular superheroes and mortals have repeatedly been there and interacted with its citizens as if it is a regular environment, we also need to somehow address that inconsistency.
It's gonna be hard to explain thisWell, given that regular superheroes and mortals have repeatedly been there and interacted with its citizens as if it is a regular environment, we also need to somehow address that inconsistency.
Yeah, Donald Blake for the longest time was his “avatar.” However, the gods portion shouldn't really be that confusing, they're literal stories, legends, and myths that are given sustenance through the Demiurge and shaped by humans collective conscious.
Yeah, there's a good reason why since their god essence and the realm from which they came are very much related.
I've already addressed this, it doesn't happen as often as you think it does. I've already stated there's somewhat different interpretation of how they appear throughout the story, but at its most consistent basis it’s beyond dimensional existence. If it were such an issue, I rather we upgrade said beings trough amps rather than count it as some sort of anti-feat.Well, given that regular superheroes and mortals have repeatedly been there and interacted with its citizens as if it is a regular environment, we also need to somehow address that inconsistency.
Like I said it really doesn't matter. I've already reticy when the “avatar” things should be used. My proposal within the blog hardly matter since they're seen differently throughout humans belief can count as their avatar that's distinct from their true essence. As long as their not in their full divinity, then counting it as avatars or direct expression more or less means the same thing.
Literally means the same thing, whether they're reincarnated in a body or their essence is within a physical body literally counts as a definition of an avatar.
It’s not just Marvel, we’re being way too picky despite the information given. There's bound to be somewhat of a sore area that will have to come as something that'll happen with various interpretations between writers.
Yeah... so.... whose gonna tell him about Strange's academy field trip to Asgard?
Hardly normal beings. Plus, magic and mysticism is very much connected. I don't think this example is as bad as some others.
About that, one of the kids is a completely normal human with a magic jacket, the teacher there with the glasses is a completely and totally normal human without magic at all
Sure I'm not gonna keep this up either, I barely understand tier 1 anyways
Over the years of Marvel Comics, do we have scans that Midgard Travel/interaction with Asgard or other Godly Realms is independently caused by actions from those higher realms? As in, it is impossible for the mortal realm to initiate contact with the godly realms due to their alleged 1-A status?
No some of the cases just happen to be for plot conveniences. It just doesn't happen often enough until then story demands it.
So you're saying a scan mentioning what I said does exist?
If by that you mean Asgardians in question teleport them to the realm as we’ve seen throughout the stories on multiple occasions then yes there's the independent cause. Typically, they don't randomly go there by accident and it rarely without some sort of connection with beings who can access the realm or a form of transportation.
Are you going in circles? I've already said a lot of the times this involves the plot, not whether they had a boost or not.
Yeah, I'm fine with that.Meaning, if we go with your approach, we would have to state that the deity realms have lower physical manifestations, with their higher essences unapproachable by lower existences.
So you are proposing that they are basically like the New Gods of DC where they have the weaker emanation and a higher essence/Godhead form?
Yeah, its clear that their divinity is still beyond time, space, and dimensions and they are stories and legends at their core.
So If I understood this correctly then a construction worker that is trying to make a living from asgard is tier 1? It reminds of that guy from Agents of shield with his beserker staff.
Meaning, if we go with your approach, we would have to state that the deity realms have lower physical manifestations, with their higher essences unapproachable by lower existences.
Thank you. I am personally fine with that then, but are there any stories that directly state this?
If I understand correctly, then the construction workers would only interact with a lower physical manifestation of Asgard.
Its in my thread but you can check the page we have now:Thank you. I am personally fine with that then, but are there any stories that directly state this?
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Now I'm confused, wasn't the tier 1 to apply to any asgardian while in Asgard? Or are the actual gods the only ones who will be tier 1?If I understand correctly, then the construction workers would only interact with a lower physical manifestation of Asgard.
