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Which staff members have accepted what here so far?
Thank you for your reply. If all of them have accepted this, that seems sufficient for applying fhe suggested changes, but it is probably best to verify with @DontTalkDT first.
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Our concrete and reinforced concrete destruction values are outdated
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Prolly best to see what @DontTalkDT and @Executor_N0 have to say about it in any case.
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I don't think DT will be commenting anytime soon.Yes. Agreed.
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Never fear for I am here. I have sent him another message. I'll get him to evaluate this thread one way or another.
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Did this not get accepted?
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It did, we're just waiting for DT to finalize everything and apply the edits so that none of us here screw it up (We don't know how to edit tables).
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Time to wank some verses, also which vals were accepted?
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I'm a content mod, it'd be a shame if I didn't know how to edit tables.
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We need you to take a look here.
If you do not, Vzearr will have to apply this revision without you, in lack of better options.
We need you to take a look here.
If you do not, Vzearr will have to apply this revision without you, in lack of better options.
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So, has there been agreement on which source and value to use for reinforced concrete?
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Yes. Fragmentation (13.8 J/cc) and high-end V. Frag (41.4 J/cc) values are sourced from here based on the majority of concrete samples falling in a range of 2-6 ksi in Figure 9: https://engineering.purdue.edu/~fro...rete Shear Strength - Another Perspective.pdf
Pulverization (99 J/cc) and low-end V. Frag (26 J/cc) values are sourced from here: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9228203/
This is also used (50 MPa compressive strength; 50 J/cc), but I don't know whether it should be used or not: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S095006182100595X
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That last article seems to be talking about something really specific, which isn't really regular concrete. Or at least that's how I interpret it without knowing the full article.
We settled on going for the low end values then?
We settled on going for the low end values then?
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That's where things are a little titchy. Vzearr and KLOL seem to prefer averages, yet I'm more for using values and ranges directly from the sources provided.
The values I put up uses both low ends and high ends, really. Fragmentation uses low-end shear strength (13.8 MPa), V. Frag uses low-end compressive strength on the low end (26 MPa) and high-end shear strength on the high end (41.4 MPa), hence the range of 26-41.4 J/cc, and Pulverization uses high-end compressive strength (99 MPa).
It's up to you, really, I wouldn't mind going either way.
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Not a friend of averages for this. I would either go for the range or for the low end.
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I'll go for the range myself. Makes better use of our sources that way.
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Bump
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I think that this can probably be applied now.
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Want me to take care of that for ya?I think that this can probably be applied now.
Also, I added the agreed-on values (with sources) to this blog: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Flashlight237/Some_Calc_Value_Fixes_+_A_New_Material_or_Two
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Sad that the bump was that small in the end, but can I consider this a done deal then? I have a calc that would get bumped up by that change.
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Sure, whenever he could.@Vzearr has locked page editing rights. Maybe he can handle it?
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Thank you, but shouldn't you add references for the sources of our new values?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Calculations?diff=8946795&oldid=8827820
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Calculations?diff=8946795&oldid=8827820
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It's already there though.Thank you, but shouldn't you add references for the sources of our new values?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Calculations?diff=8946795&oldid=8827820
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In order to determine a character's Destructive Capacity, we must first look through the character's feats and determine how much energy was exerted to perform such a feat. Sometimes, the destructive capacity of the feat can be determined easily without the need for a calculation, but most of...
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