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Crisis Cosmology Revision (Final Thread)
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Done.I have unlocked those pages for you. Tell me here when you are done.
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No, I don't think that's a good idea and would create more confusion. While they're both of “light” and the manifestation of the Creator. A lot of stories involving them tend to give them specific traits and narration surrounding only their nature. They're on the same plane and are of the same thing(Light), but they're not identical in nature where you can't distinguish the two apart. It’s the same thing with DeMatteis Seekers “God” being split into the Magician and the Primal Ocean.
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Yes, and Mxyzptlk had also elevated Superman to the 6th Dimension, so it was a massive double-amplification.
We should probably mention that in his page if we don't already though.
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I have locked those pages again.
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Yeah, if anyone’s willing to change them because this thread is done for the most part.Yes, and Mxyzptlk had also elevated Superman to the 6th Dimension, so it was a massive double-amplification.
We should probably mention that in his page if we don't already though.
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Are you willing to handle it please?
What remains to be applied from what has been accepted here?
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No, I'm genuinely intrigue to see what the others would do to get Superman to those levels. Also, this thread wasn't intended for that.Are you willing to handle it please?
It’s been done long ago. I've already fixed the blog and all the profiles correlated to things in the blog. The rest needs to be handled separately.
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I just meant a footnote explanation for why he does not scale from a double-boost.
Okay. That is good then.
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That will be handled alongside a CRT upgrading Superman. This thread isn't for that and I'm sure everyone who has read it knows that he wasn't base in that instance.
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Considering that Death Battle has made a major issue of ignoring that Superman was more than infinitely powered up by Mxyzptlk at the time, I definitely think that they very much do not in general, and that we should mention it.
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Alright, but you will have to ask someone else since I'm done with this thread and it needs to be in the backburner after 9 pages of work.Considering that Death Battle has made a major issue of ignoring that Superman was more than infinitely powered up by Mxyzptlk at the time, I definitely think that they very much do not in general, and that we should mention it.
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This should be closed right ?
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I am not sure who I should ask, so I will mention it in our general DC Comics discussion thread.
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Most times Spectre is always consistently more powerful. They're certainly close in the grand scheme of things, but Spectre is stronger. As for Emperor Joker, 1-A+ should suffice if it goes in Crisis, and High 1-A for DeMatteis. Depending on whether we count it as a collaboration or a self-written story.
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Should this be added to our DC Comics Cosmology page?
Okay. That is fine with me then.
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Also, should our Phantom Stranger profile be unlocked for revisions?
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Phantom Stranger is of the Quintessence so he should be 1-A
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Also, should our Phantom Stranger profile be unlocked for revisions?
I think both versions need to be opened up. Though, I really think any more profile revision could be handled elsewhere. This thread was intended for the change in the Cosmology blog and those whose specific realms are mentioned which is done for the most part. Unless we're all in the mindset “might as well get it done!”
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Okay, you can open the profiles.I have a "We might as well get it done to keep our character pages consistent with each other" perspective here, yes.
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what is the proof that the great darkness can emcompass everything that the creator could make ?
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It being infinite nothingness and the Void from which Creation came that the Creator summoned. It’s contained within the Creator and the driving place to actualize reality.
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Just “X, 1-A with The Clear” normally is unnecessary.
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A new justification for the Presence (Crisis Cosmology):
"Transcends the Source and the Great Darkness, existing only as its own perfection, and contracted from himself a space for the coming creation of which he represents an infinite circle which is represented as the "limitless light". The true nature of God is non-dual, all-encompassing and all-transcending, even the Void of non-existence from which all Creation came is part of God and his “plan.” In many creation myths, he is seen as the supreme creator of all things, above all others, with the divine figures below him being merely aspects of his infinity."
"Transcends the Source and the Great Darkness, existing only as its own perfection, and contracted from himself a space for the coming creation of which he represents an infinite circle which is represented as the "limitless light". The true nature of God is non-dual, all-encompassing and all-transcending, even the Void of non-existence from which all Creation came is part of God and his “plan.” In many creation myths, he is seen as the supreme creator of all things, above all others, with the divine figures below him being merely aspects of his infinity."
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I have done so.
The Phantom Stranger (Post-Crisis)
The Phantom Stranger is a mysterious, powerful entity primarily associated with the mystic side of the DC universe. His true origin is unknown, although several likely ones have been revealed over time. These include: the Wandering Jew who mocked Christ, doomed to wander until the Second Coming...
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The Phantom Stranger (Post-Flashpoint)
The Phantom Stranger, formerly known as Judas Iscariot, is a member of the infamous Trinity of Sin, a group of the three most egregious sinners in history. Judas' betrayal of Jesus Christ earned him membership in the group, and he was cursed with immortality, doomed to wander and serve the...
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What do the rest of you think about this suggestion?
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And one modified footnote based on what was agreed here:
In the Crisis Cosmology, the Presence is the creator god behind the gates of Heaven and being related to the Source, the Overvoid and the Light. When Mister Miracle stood before the gates of Heaven, he claimed to have felt the Source behind those gates; when Cronus got his hands on the Godwave, he claimed to have the power of the Presence; Wally West claimed that throughout the Overvoid, beings like Perpetua are shaping Multiverses using great energies born of "the Presence," of "the Source." However, many creation myths speak of a God above all others, existing only as his own perfection and transcending all Creation and even the Great Darkness which is represented as part of his plan and true infinity. This God would have many “forms” or “appearances” according to the different myths and beliefs, making the Presence an aspect of his own true self with the Source, the Overvoid and the Light after God entered the Great Darkness with his power and name.
In the Crisis Cosmology, the Presence is the creator god behind the gates of Heaven and being related to the Source, the Overvoid and the Light. When Mister Miracle stood before the gates of Heaven, he claimed to have felt the Source behind those gates; when Cronus got his hands on the Godwave, he claimed to have the power of the Presence; Wally West claimed that throughout the Overvoid, beings like Perpetua are shaping Multiverses using great energies born of "the Presence," of "the Source." However, many creation myths speak of a God above all others, existing only as his own perfection and transcending all Creation and even the Great Darkness which is represented as part of his plan and true infinity. This God would have many “forms” or “appearances” according to the different myths and beliefs, making the Presence an aspect of his own true self with the Source, the Overvoid and the Light after God entered the Great Darkness with his power and name.
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Done.I have done so.
The Phantom Stranger (Post-Crisis)
The Phantom Stranger is a mysterious, powerful entity primarily associated with the mystic side of the DC universe. His true origin is unknown, although several likely ones have been revealed over time. These include: the Wandering Jew who mocked Christ, doomed to wander until the Second Coming...
The Phantom Stranger (Post-Flashpoint)
The Phantom Stranger, formerly known as Judas Iscariot, is a member of the infamous Trinity of Sin, a group of the three most egregious sinners in history. Judas' betrayal of Jesus Christ earned him membership in the group, and he was cursed with immortality, doomed to wander and serve the...
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Anti life entity should be High 1A or 1A+
Feats:
- Warped Creation, removing God's light
- Destroyed Ecruos, an enemy of the Source capable of destroying the World Tree, one of the foundations of Creation itself
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Please link to the page here, so I can unlock it for editing.
Also what do the rest of you think?
Ditto.
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Flash (Barry Allen) (Post-Crisis)
Barry Allen is The Flash. His position is a legacy in the Flash Family, a successor to the original Flash, Jay Garrick, and predecessor to Wally West. He is a founding member of the Justice League of America. Barry was struck by a lightning bolt in his lab on a stormy night, the event would lead...
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you think this is enough to be high outer + ? being the void that encompass the light of creation mean that he can encompass every possible world ?
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Personally, I think it would be good to add this since it fits well with what was agreed on this thread.What do the rest of you think about this suggestion?
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It’s more so that the Darkness is the unconscious mind of God being infinite possible space from which the Creator used to make Creation.
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I have unlocked it for editing, but it seems unreliable to backscale power-ups from a much later continuity to a time before they were introduced, if that is what is intended.Flash (Barry Allen) (Post-Crisis)
Barry Allen is The Flash. His position is a legacy in the Flash Family, a successor to the original Flash, Jay Garrick, and predecessor to Wally West. He is a founding member of the Justice League of America. Barry was struck by a lightning bolt in his lab on a stormy night, the event would lead...
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