JJK Yuji's Missing Abilities Addition - Part 2

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yuji domain has some cool stuff which are currently missing in the profiles.

• Dream Manipulation Telepathy and Perception Manipulation: He can make True Form Sukuna perceive himself as if he were still in Yuji's body.[Chapter 264] He also made Megumi perceive himself as a child.[Chapter 266] This ability is similar to what Kenjaku did at the beginning of the Culling Game—entering the dreams of others and making them see whatever he wanted them to.
• Creation, Enhanced Pocket Reality Manipulation, Subjective Reality, Weapon Creation, and Weather Manipulation: Yuji can alter the weather inside his Domain and create objects from his past memories. He has been shown creating bows and arrows.[Chapter 265] Additionally, he is capable of creating life within his Domain, such as horses[Chapter 265] and birds.[Chapter 266] Yuji can, knowingly or unknowingly, alter the landscape inside the Domain, as shown here.[Chapter 266]
• Enhanced Soul Manipulation & Barrier Negation: Since his Sure-Hit attack directly lands on opponents, he does not need to physically touch them to spam Soul Dismantle [Chapter 267]. Additionally, he can negate barriers, as seen when he removed Sukuna's Hollow Wicker Basket despite Sukuna actively using both his hands and mouth to maintain it.

Further clarification regarding Dream Manipulation
Yuji can have a conversation with Megumi despite Sukuna having activated HWB.[Chapter 266] So, this is definitely not a sure-hit effect of the Domain. Additionally, this is not the place where the soul resides—if it were, Yuji could have targeted Sukuna's soul. Moreover, Megumi's innate Domain is a pitch-black landscape, while the conversation takes place in a different location. Even Sukuna was at Railway station.

Regarding Barrier Negation
Checked with Translation thread regarding HWB feat. So official translation seems to be correct on that part.

Official Translation Requests Thread (New forum)

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It should also be noted that Sukuna took more severe damage inside Yuta's Domain, yet his HWB held until his hand signs were forcibly removed and his tongue was ripped out of his second mouth. Here, however, that was not the case—his HWB was removed on its own without any of that happening.

Some might argue that Sukuna’s coping at the end, saying the Domain is just superficial, So Yuji domain barriers not that developed. But let’s be honest—he clearly didn’t want to accept his loss here. We all know what happened on the next page. The guy got destroyed, proving himself wrong. This was clearly a last-ditch excuse because he was on his last rope. Additionally, he hates Yuji the most (maybe second only to Yorozu) in the series, which could also be why he refused to acknowledge Yuji's skills.

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Agree: @AbaddonTheDisappointment {Thread Mod} (Agree with Everything), @Duedate8898 {Thread Mod} (Agree with everything except Dream Manipulation, Suggested to change it to Telepathy. Here you can review the arguments), @Nierre {Thread Mod} (Agree with Duedate regarding first point. Other than agrees with everything.)

Neutral: @Duedate8898 (Barrier Negation)

Disagree:

 

[Apotheosis69]

Good stuff. Agreed, though I think the "Creation (Pocket Reality Manipulation/Subjective Reality" should have Limited in it

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Good stuff. Agreed, though I think the "Creation (Pocket Reality Manipulation/Subjective Reality" should have Limited in it

I think it's better to just list the limitations in the explanation than listing it as limited.

 

[Shadowslaya!]

Crazy shit bro

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Seems fine to me

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Seems fine to me

Just wanna know if Subjective Reality or Pocket Dimension Manipulation which suits this case better.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Just wanna know if Subjective Reality or Pocket Dimension Manipulation which suits this case better.

Honestly, neither cause it's already covered under the domain expansion section in CE Manip

 

[Duedate8898]

I would argue everything looks fine overall.

Dream Manipulation should be removed and instead just be Perception Manipulation as he's changing how Sukuna views himself in the moment as they're both still clearly awake. And in the case of Megumi, it isn't super clear if that Yuji or Megumi perceiving himself that way. Yuji's communication with Megumi would also fit into Telepathy as they're not physically talking with one another.

Yuji should have enhanced Pocket Reality Manipulation and Subjective Reality to fit with what he's doing as he is modifying his own innate domain to a much greater degree than normally done with a domain expansion.

Not too sure about Barrier Negation as Hollow Wicker Basket is only negating the Sure-hit Soul Dismantle, not Yuji's normal Soul Stuff or any he might attempt with contact after the fact so while he definitely has an enhanced form of Soul Manipulation than what he had earlier in the series I don't know if I'd agree with him negating the barrier.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Looks good to me, I agree. (But I lack any real knowledge for the verse)

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I would argue everything looks fine overall.

Dream Manipulation should be removed and instead just be Perception Manipulation as he's changing how Sukuna views himself in the moment as they're both still clearly awake. And in the case of Megumi, it isn't super clear if that Yuji or Megumi perceiving himself that way. Yuji's communication with Megumi would also fit into Telepathy as they're not physically talking with one another.

Personally, I think it's more akin to dream manipulation because Sukuna compared it to a phenomenon when they die, rather than telepathy. Also, Megumi's soul is asleep.

Isn't this very similar to Kenjaku's feat, where Yuji's senpai was sleepwalking because Kenjaku guided her out of the colony?

Yuji should have enhanced Pocket Reality Manipulation and Subjective Reality to fit with what he's doing as he is modifying his own innate domain to a much greater degree than normally done with a domain expansion.

Ok will add that

Not too sure about Barrier Negation as Hollow Wicker Basket is only negating the Sure-hit Soul Dismantle, not Yuji's normal Soul Stuff or any he might attempt with contact after the fact so while he definitely has an enhanced form of Soul Manipulation than what he had earlier in the series I don't know if I'd agree with him negating the barrier.

It's for his domain. Like how Kenjaku Domain negated Yuki Simple Domain which is already listed in Kenjaku profile.

 

[Duedate8898]

Personally, I think it's more akin to dream manipulation because Sukuna compared it to a phenomenon when they die, rather than telepathy. Also, Megumi's soul is asleep.

Megumi's soul isn't asleep in the traditional sense, he's clearly aware of what Sukuna has been getting up to. He's just not in or fighting for control.

Isn't this very similar to Kenjaku's feat, where Yuji's senpai was sleepwalking because Kenjaku guided her out of the colony?

While I know Kenjaku does the whole curse as a bridge between dream and reality, the big difference is that we know no one involved in Yuji's instance is Asleep, and more than that, Kenjaku transports her outside of the barrier through his mastery of barrier techinques. I don't think there's enough similarties here to call these instances the same.

It's for his domain. Like how Kenjaku Domain negated Yuki Simple Domain which is already listed in Kenjaku profile.

I would argue in that case what you're really describing is a feature of all domains or a weakness of SD/HWB. Thanks to Kusakabe and Miwa, I might lean more towards the former since the idea is that any domain will strip away a SD, how long this take is dependent upon the domain and the user's ability to maintain it.

 

[Deleted member 40129]

Seems great

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Megumi's soul isn't asleep in the traditional sense, he's clearly aware of what Sukuna has been getting up to. He's just not in or fighting for control.

While I know Kenjaku does the whole curse as a bridge between dream and reality, the big difference is that we know no one involved in Yuji's instance is Asleep, and more than that, Kenjaku transports her outside of the barrier through his mastery of barrier techinques. I don't think there's enough similarties here to call these instances the same.

If the other staff also agree to changing it to only telepathy, then I have no problem with it. However, I personally disagree with this interpretation. Yuji also didn’t have any injuries when he talked to Megumi, and Megumi was tuned to a child. There is also the fact that the environment they were in suggests this was a typical dream where he was talking to Megumi.

But I understand your point of view, so I’ll just agree to disagree on this one.

I’ll update your suggestions in the OP so that other staff can give their input on which to use.

I would argue in that case what you're really describing is a feature of all domains or a weakness of SD/HWB. Thanks to Kusakabe and Miwa, I might lean more towards the former since the idea is that any domain will strip away a SD, how long this take is dependent upon the domain and the user's ability to maintain it.

Except for the fact that it was mentioned Sukuna can use hand signs and chants indefinitely, making it impossible to break through like other anti-domains.

Neither Miwa, Kusakabe, nor even Gojo himself can do what Sukuna does with his extra pair of hands and mouth.

Kenjaku is also listed the same way for using it against Yuki’s Simple Domain, but we can remove that and list it as just a skill. However, Yuji’s case is different because Sukuna is actively using chants and signs, which should indefinitely maintain his HWB.

 

[Duedate8898]

Except for the fact that it was mentioned Sukuna can use hand signs and chants indefinitely, making it impossible to break through like other anti-domains.

Neither Miwa, Kusakabe, nor even Gojo himself can do what Sukuna does with his extra pair of hands and mouth.

Kenjaku is also listed the same way for using it against Yuki’s Simple Domain, but we can remove that and list it as just a skill. However, Yuji’s case is different because Sukuna is actively using chants and signs, which should indefinitely maintain his HWB.

I think the thing to point out here is that Sukuna isn't said to be able to maintain HWB indefinitely. He's just able to supplement the output of HWB through maintaining the handsigns. He is still dealing with the basic issue of how Domain Sure-Hits degrade his barrier, and his problem in this fight is that Yuji is still lowering his output with every punch struck. So Yuji wouldn't be directly negating his barrier, more through his standard means (Soul disruption) he's messing with the foundation that Sukuna is using to maintain it.

That's how I see it

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I think the thing to point out here is that Sukuna isn't said to be able to maintain HWB indefinitely.

I meant Indefinitely as In unknown time period. But after checking the chapter again. Yeah I agree with you on what you are saying.

He's just able to supplement the output of HWB through maintaining the handsigns. He is still dealing with the basic issue of how Domain Sure-Hits degrade his barrier, and his problem in this fight is that Yuji is still lowering his output with every punch struck. So Yuji wouldn't be directly negating his barrier, more through his standard means (Soul disruption) he's messing with the foundation that Sukuna is using to maintain it.

Spoiler

He was not using Soul Dismantle when HWB was chipped away. Also he has enough output to cast a domain at that time.

So Despite Sukuna having enough output left in him to cast a Domain, his HWB was chipped away inside Yuji's Domain, which was not the case when he was fighting inside Yuta's Domain. HWB requires less output than what a Domain cast consumes. Hence, it should be concluded that Yuji's Domain has some good barrier tech, which would remove his opponent's anti-Domain techniques faster than other few other Domains.

Actually, forget it now that I think about it it shouldn't be in ability section. I'm fine with removing this from the ability section and just placing it in his skill set (Notable Attacks section or Intelligence section) if that's okay with you.

Something like this under Notable Abilities section

Yuji's Domain seemed to have better barriers, which could remove his opponent's anti-Domain techniques faster compared to other Domains. This might either come from Kusakabe's training or Yuji having muscle memory of Sukuna himself.

 

[Nierre]

I agree with Duedate in regards with Perception Manipulation

but everything else looks okay to me

 

[Syncornize]

I didn't quite understand the justification for dream manip but the rest seems ok

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I'll change Dream Manipulation to Telepathy then.
Other than that other things got accepted so I'll close this thread and apply the changes after one more Revision I had planned for Yuji.
Thanks for everyone who helped.

 

[Huesito88]

I'll change Drama Manipulation to Telepathy then.
Other than that other things got accepted so I'll close this thread and apply the changes after one more Revision I had planned for Yuji.
Thanks for everyone who helped.

I didn't know Drama Manipulation was a thing

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I didn't know Drama Manipulation was a thing

 

[Apotheosis69]

Am I the only one who thinks that Yuji talkin to Megumi could've been in his Innate Domain? Like how he does it to Sukuna?