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Fix the Ink Machine (Bendy Verse Clean-Up Thread)

ShockingPsychic

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As covered here, the Bendy and the Ink Machine verse has been hit with a long string of vandalism. We're going to be fixing up the verse, but what does that entail, exactly?

  • Browsing CRTs
    • Some of the changes to the Bendy profiles were accepted in CRTs. Some were not. We're gonna need to look through CRTs and compile a list of what has and has not been accepted
  • Remaking profiles
    • Some profiles are worse off than others. While a handful can stay, others will be easier to scrub and just start from scratch
While I cannot do much right this second, I will provide a list of resources that will help with discussion.

 
I can add more later, but for now, to get some discussion going;

  • Can we find where the 9-A smack feat was applied to profiles?
  • Also about the 9-A smack feat, it seems weird. One, it's done by the physically strongest character in the verse, and though Henry survives it, he gets ragdolled by it and cannot survive other attacks by Beast Bendy. Two, the hole looks way too small to get a 9-A result... I'd like this to get checked out a bit more we apply it
  • Which profiles can stay, which need to get deleted?
    • I think Bendy, Henry, Sammy, Alice, Allison, and The Keepers can stay
    • I think Wilson, Projectionist, The Ink, and Audrey need to go
 
So do you have any plans on when the these changes will happen yet, expressly Bendy’s profile page?
 
  • Which profiles can stay, which need to get deleted?
    • I think Bendy, Henry, Sammy, Alice, Allison, and The Keepers can stay
    • I think Wilson, Projectionist, The Ink, and Audrey need to go
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I agree with this. Although I didn’t see an Audrey profile page in the Bendy verse profile page. I mean, there used to be a Audrey profile page on there but that got removed and deleted way before this vandalism issue was discussed.
 
I'd like more consistency in the calcs, but to be fair, Bendy isn't focused on feats.
ShockingPsychic said:
  • Also about the 9-A smack feat, it seems weird. One, it's done by the physically strongest character in the verse, and though Henry survives it, he gets ragdolled by it and cannot survive other attacks by Beast Bendy. Two, the hole looks way too small to get a 9-A result... I'd like this to get checked out a bit more we apply it
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Worst case scenario it's an "At most" rating, we've given that put for worse.
ShockingPsychic said:
  • Which profiles can stay, which need to get deleted?
    • I think Bendy, Henry, Sammy, Alice, Allison, and The Keepers can stay
    • I think Wilson, Projectionist, The Ink, and Audrey need to go
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This is perfect. Audrey and Wilson would need entire ass reworks to even be remotely acceptable
 
DaReaperMan said:
I'd like more consistency in the calcs, but to be fair, Bendy isn't focused on feats.

Worst case scenario it's an "At most" rating, we've given that put for worse.

This is perfect. Audrey and Wilson would need entire ass reworks to even be remotely acceptable
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First, we should probably discuss what this Audrey profile page is that you two are talking about, because if you look at the Bendy verse page there is no link to Audrey’s page.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Bendy_and_the_Ink_Machine

At the very least I made an Audrey profile page but I didn’t put that on the Bendy verse page or link it to Audrey’s name and I wont be until I am done making the scans for it and until I make it CRT for it. Heck! when I search for it on the Vs Battle Wiki Audrey from Bendy doesn't show up which leads me to believe that nothing Audrey from Bendy has been accepted yet. And the fact that you guys are dodging this question makes me even more skeptical about rather this “Audrey profile page” even exist to begin with.
 
InkyBattles said:
First, we should probably discuss what this Audrey profile page is that you two are talking about, because if you look at the Bendy verse page there is no link to Audrey’s page.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Bendy_and_the_Ink_Machine

At the very least I made an Audrey profile page but I didn’t put that on the Bendy verse page or link it to Audrey’s name and I wont be until I am done making the scans for it and until I make it CRT for it. And the fact that you guys are dodging this question makes me even more suspicious about rather this “Audrey profile page” even exist to begin with.
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Probably already got deleted
 
So are any of you willing to help improve the reliability of this verse please? 🙏
 
I am currently working on many projects, but I haven't forgotten about this

ShockingPsychic said:
Which profiles can stay, which need to get deleted?
  • I think Bendy, Henry, Sammy, Alice, Allison, and The Keepers can stay
  • I think Wilson, Projectionist, The Ink, and Audrey need to go
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If it helps, this alone would improve the reliability of the verse. These are the problem areas
 
ShockingPsychic said:
I can add more later, but for now, to get some discussion going;
  • Also about the 9-A smack feat, it seems weird. One, it's done by the physically strongest character in the verse, and though Henry survives it, he gets ragdolled by it and cannot survive other attacks by Beast Bendy. Two, the hole looks way too small to get a 9-A result...
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I should note the other attacks from beast bendy are far worse than the slap.
Beast Bendys other attacks involve him ramming into henry while punching the ground.
And yeah he does get ragdolled but he got up unharmed

And for the hole being too small to be 9-A I just got it redone
(It's way better than the old one)
 
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Antvasima said:
What do you think about this revision, and should we delete the suggested profile pages? 🙏
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ShionAH said:
Revert the Bendy profile to pre vandalism
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Bendynoah10 said:
vsbattles.fandom.com

Henry gets launched through a metal wall

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com
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Bendynoah10 said:
If this gets accepted then it can just replace the old calc as a possible start
And then just wipe out the really bad profiles and or remake them
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That seems perfectly fine to me at least. 🙏

@DarkDragonMedeus @Celestial_Pegasus @Elizhaa @Sir_Ovens @Damage3245 @Starter_Pack @GyroNutz @Everything12 @Maverick_Zero_X @Crabwhale @LephyrTheRevanchist

Are any of you willing to help out here please? 🙏
 
Thank you for helping out. 🙏🙂
 
Bendynoah10 said:
There's a few things that can be calculated.
1.bertrums KE (AP)
2.boris snapping a fireman's pole (lifting)
3.boris moves extremely fast just to grab a cookie (speed)
4.lost ones crush each other (lifting and AP)
5.lost ones shaking the lost harbor (AP)
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Bendynoah10 said:
vsbattles.fandom.com

Boris bends a pole

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com
Should scale to anyone who scales to boris (which is almost the entire verse)
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@Executor_N0 @Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan @Mr. Bambu @Therefir @Ugarik @DMUA @Damage3245 @TheRustyOne @Jasonsith @Wokistan @Armorchompy @Migue79 @Psychomaster35 @CloverDragon03 @Dark-Carioca @AbaddonTheDisappointment @Aguywhodoesthings @Agnaa @Dalesean027 @DemiiPowa @Flashlight237 @SeijiSetto @SunDaGamer @Vzearr @KLOL506

Are any of you willing to help us fix our currently very unreliable pages for thIs verse by calculating and evaluating please? 🙏
 
Class K seems very high a result but I haven't actually looked at the math yet (am at work).

But, I'd like to ask the other supporters whether the cartoons of the verse scale to the actual games? I don't keep up with the verse in any capacity, but I was of the impression that the characters you see in game are like. Creations, meant to be these cartoon characters. Is the verse in the cartoon?
 
Mr. Bambu said:
Class K seems very high a result but I haven't actually looked at the math yet (am at work).

But, I'd like to ask the other supporters whether the cartoons of the verse scale to the actual games? I don't keep up with the verse in any capacity, but I was of the impression that the characters you see in game are like. Creations, meant to be these cartoon characters. Is the verse in the cartoon?
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My reasoning for using them is because in chapter 5 we learn that they just use the cartoon reels to make the characters through the ink machine. I didn't think it would be too outlandish or out of the machines capacity because it created an alternative universe
 
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Do the games take place in this universe?
 
If everything is entirely in this universe, I could see it as a possibly rating. It is a bit of a big set of assumptions that the qualities of this created universe are 1:1 with those of the cartoon (when so many things are different by such a great degree, no less), but. It's possible, ig.
 
I'm not particularly well-versed into this verse (I helped a little bit with some of the early profiles but that's it) but I can help out with any calcs if necessary
 
Where does the 81 cm come from for the barrel? Also, given how we don't see the feat actually happen (we only see that giant hand dragging a boat earlier, so we can't assume it completely destroyed the boat there) I'm a little iffy about this being a calc or even a feat at all.
 
Dark-Carioca said:
Where does the 81 cm come from for the barrel? Also, given how we don't see the feat actually happen (we only see that giant hand dragging a boat earlier, so we can't assume it completely destroyed the boat there) I'm a little iffy about this being a calc or even a feat at all.
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When the hand hits Henry we can hear the boat get torn apart.
For 81 cm I can't actually recall
 
Bendynoah10 said:
This is irrelevant to the calcs but important to the scaling and I haven't actually seen this discussed (or just don't remember it being discussed)
So in batdr Wilson states that Bendys "evil" is causing the cycle to "shudder"

Bendy does say Wilson is lying but bendy himself is extremely unreliable source as he constantly lies throughout the game.
Another thing supporting what Wilson said comes from the archives where it explained that one of the reasons the cycle couldn't grow is because of Bendy's "influence"
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Personally, I feel this is a little vague. Although when taking the fact that there are moments where the Cycle does shake and fall apart into consideration I wouldn’t say this is too far fetched.

While Henry does state that everyone including the Ink Demon are restricted to the Cycle’s rule. However, Wilson and the Keepers were responsible for altering the Cycle in order to freeze it in place and change its script I would disagree. But at the end of day I am not a moderator so my words don’t matter as much.
 
Bendynoah10 said:
Only really in reference to the fact he isn't immune to getting evaporated by the end reel.
Also I don't think the keepers should scale, the only reason the script was "flipped" by them was because they captured everyone important to the cycles story so it couldn't keep going.
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It also doesn't make sense within the narrative
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I see your point, and to be fair I didn’t think that the Keepers would scale either because of this same reason, but what changed my mind is the fact that when Henry explains reasoning behind why Wilson and the Keepers imprisoned them and the other Cycle Breakers was to out sure that they wouldn’t reset the Cycle. Not because imprisoning them would allow them to change the Cycles script. Keep in mind, Wilson and the Keepers already interfered with the Cycle’s script simply by existing before they imprisoned the Cycle Breakers as they were never part of the original script. And Wilson creating the Keepers and other new ink monsters also happened before they imprisoned the Cycle Breakers as well which was also never part of the original script. So why would the Cycle’s Breakers imprisoned be the reason when the script is changing was already changing before that?

With that being said, I think they imprisoned the Cycle breaks so they can continue altering the Cycle without needed to worry about them resetting the Cycle once again and reverting all of their changes.
 
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Bendynoah10 said:
Only really in reference to the fact he isn't immune to getting evaporated by the end reel.
Also I don't think the keepers should scale, the only reason the script was "flipped" by them was because they captured everyone important to the cycles story so it couldn't keep going.
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It also doesn't make sense within the narrative
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And in addition, Wilson who has shown manipulation over the Cycle using the Ink Machine’s power (or the Illusion of Living), created the Keepers with the Keepers being stated to be designed as physical manifestations of the Ink Machine itself in the BATDR Archives. Therefore, it is likely that Wilson created them to be living versions of the Ink Machine using the Ink Machine’s power which could explain their Cycle warping capabilities.
 
InkyBattles said:
I see your point, and to be fair I didn’t think that the Keepers would scale either because of this same reason, but what changed my mind is the fact that when Henry explains reasoning behind why Wilson and the Keepers imprisoned them and the other Cycle Breakers was to out sure that they wouldn’t the Cycle. Not because imprisoning them would allow them to change the Cycles script. Keep in mind, Wilson and the Keepers already interfered with the Cycle’s script simply by existing before they imprisoned the Cycle Breakers as they were never part of the original script. And Wilson creating the Keepers and other new ink monsters also happened before they imprisoned the Cycle Breakers as well which was also never part of the original script. So why would the Cycle’s Breakers imprisoned be the reason why the script is changing if the script was already changing before that?
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The script refers to the specific events of the game that we see.
If the Keepers hadn't intervened, they wouldn't have changed the script, as they would have been nonfactors.
InkyBattles said:
with the Keepers being stated to be designed as physical manifestations of the Ink Machine itself in the BATDR Archives. Therefore, it is likely that Wilson created them to be living versions of the Ink Machine using the Ink Machine’s power which could explain their Cycle warping capabilities.
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I think that's meant to be symbolic; I don't think it's meant literally.
 
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