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World of Darkness, an Unasked for Sequel

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World of Darkness is literally one of the few verses I knew of off the top of my head that if the restrictions for High 1-A+ Type 2 weren't as strict as they are literally everyone scaling to the Tellurian would scale to it. Like, it's just that busted.
 
Re5yh said:
Also, I found this wiki page of Our Lady which basically looks like a vs wiki page:
Source: Tier 0 wiki
https://wiki-characters-tier-0.fandom.com/wiki/Our_Lady
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Yeah, that's inaccurate.

She's not the feminine principle of TED because TED is beyond description.

Sophia and "Our Lady, the Merciful One" are similar but not the same.

Our Lady is the Feminine aspect of Jehovah/YHWH, specifically, the text discussing her contrasts her with him. The angry and violent Male aspect vs her, the Gentle, loving feminine aspect.

Our Lady is easily contrasted with other Feminine Archetypal gods like Shakti, Devi and Lilith. All of whom also claim the title.

Sophia is on a higher level. Sophia created the level of the Demiurge and the Demiurge himself, who uses Ra, Jehovah, Odin and many more Godheads as masks to have people worship him (this doesn't make the Gods less real, just that their purpose is different).

Sophia is the next level beyond the level of the Gods.
 
I don’t quite understand why Umbra is classified as H1-A Absolute Infinite Layer instead of Meta-Qualitative.
The Umbra and all its Realms are High 1-A (Absolute Infinite Layers) because it is completely superior to the entire latticework of the Infinite Tapestry alongside its infinite self-transcending systems. Everything before and within it is but a mere shadow towards a truer existence of what can and can't be.
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Re5yh said:
we should add Nigh-0 to the tiering system as between High 1-A and 0
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Type 1 and 2 are basically that.

But they don't have a name. Me personally, I think that they should be called "Antepenultimate" and "Penultimate"
 
Ihsjihahxu said:
I don’t quite understand why Umbra is classified as H1-A Absolute Infinite Layer instead of Meta-Qualitative.
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Because since High 1-A is already Meta Qualitative. That's already the standard, the cardinality is still applicable to that hierarchy. Layers is just that… since the Spires are so, due to them being beyond infinite with all conceptions being accounted fir. With Set Theory existing as the Toposes.

And then there's the Maya Realms being unfathomably beyond that… and then there's the Deep Umbra.

Because of that, it's Absolute Infinite Layers above Baseline High 1-A.
Eseseso said:
Btw, wasn't someone planning on making a page for WoD magic?
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That's me. You can check my Blogs for "The Mage (World of Darkness)"
 
Apotheosis69 said:
Because since High 1-A is already Meta Qualitative. That's already the standard, the cardinality is still applicable to that hierarchy. Layers is just that… since the Spires are so, due to them being beyond infinite with all conceptions being accounted fir. With Set Theory existing as the Toposes.
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I think he likely means that if something exists above the hierarchy of Meta-Quality, it should be Meta-Meta-Quality (which is a level of hierarchy beyond the infinite levels of Meta-Qualitative). And as the hierarchy extends infinitely upward (Meta-Meta-Meta-Quality, Meta-Meta-Meta-Meta-Quality, and so on), there would still be Supra-Quality (not the official term for "above the hierarchy of meta-quality extensions"). That is what he is questioning this point.
 
Frans_Kadmon said:
I think he likely means that if something exists above the hierarchy of Meta-Quality, it should be Meta-Meta-Quality (which is a level of hierarchy beyond the infinite levels of Meta-Qualitative). And as the hierarchy extends infinitely upward (Meta-Meta-Meta-Quality, Meta-Meta-Meta-Meta-Quality, and so on), there would still be Supra-Quality (not the official term for "above the hierarchy of meta-quality extensions"). That is what he is questioning this point.
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Is that phrasing like actually a thing? Never heard of it, like going that far that is.
 
Hmm... Should it then be "Absolute Infinite Meta-Qualitative Layers" for High 1-A Umbra.

And "Absolute Infinite Qualitative Layers" for 1-A+ Tapestry?
 
Is that a Honkai homework Copypaste?. Also why Absolute Infinity?
 
Vietthai96 said:
Is that a Honkai homework Copypaste?. Also why Absolute Infinity?
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Yes actually... have to thank Garrixian for that. That and it fits with 1-A being pure qualitative superiority. And High 1-A being more meta-qualitative.

Also it's Absolute Infinity, because it takes into account Set Theory and its entire hierarchy. The Toposes are as such. And since the Tapestry is absolutely everything from the Umbra, in physical reality/form it applies to such.
 
Apotheosis69 said:
Is that phrasing like actually a thing? Never heard of it, like going that far that is.
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For Supra-Quality, no, it is an informal term for what lies beyond the infinite hierarchy of Meta-Quality. (Come this revision of Dragon Talisman)
As for the stacking of the term "Meta-Quality," it is mentioned in the Tiering System page:
Similarly to 1-A, this tier can be generalized to higher levels of existence. Just as 1-A encompasses qualitative hierarchies, so too can there be meta-qualitative hierarchies. In addition, there can also be "meta"-meta-qualitative superiorities, and so forth, endlessly.
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Ahh, I get it now.

That changes things a bit for the Umbra, rather additions tbh.
 
Please don't. let's wait for this CRT to be accepted. That way, the Cosmology gets fully added and all hax can be accurate to it.
 
Yeah, we should wait until we make any new additions, make profiles, etc. until the revision is done.
 
VeryGoofyToddler2 said:
Isn’t that just a reworded @Udlmaster sandbox?
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It is yeah. It's also wrong, since at the time, in 2021, I had Sophia, Our Lady, Devi and Shakti pegged as the same entity, since they're all archetype feminine principles.

But I've changed on that, Sophia is on a higher level. Our Mother is equal to Jehovah, who himself is below the Demiurge who is a creation of Sophia.

My old profile was wrong and people stole it without permission and keep using it, and also use the ugly random picture from Tiktok
 
Oh btw, for anyone/staff looking into the verse. I have fixed the Umbra Tiering to add specifications for the different structures within to different layers/Meta-hierarchies.

Now if some individual here could add that information to the OP, for the benefit and time for any needed staff to give their opinion. That would be greaaaaat.
 
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