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Dragon Ball Daima Spoiler Discussion Thread

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So if I’m understanding the Daima scaling correctly.

Kid Goku = Glorio > Shin

So the kid version of everybody is probably around on par with their Buu Saga self. Assuming Shin’s strongest in the universe statement is referring to Adult Goku and not Kid Goku. And as adults

Base Adult Goku >= Base Adult Vegeta > SS4 Kid Goku

So they got way over 400x stronger than their Buu Saga self in under a year. God damn.
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Goku lit up all of Makai with Ssj4 and the brightness was even shown in the third demon world
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Is that impressive? Is just him emitting light tbh.
StekFence said:
I mean, pretty sure BoG gokus peak is ssj3. So either that got retconned/he’s stupid/he’s going to lose ssj4/they are different canons. All 4 are equally possible tbh.
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I don't think Goku is stupid enough to just forget a transformation trought.
 
StekFence said:
Well it could be calced and it prob wouldn’t be a terrible result.

I’m personally thinking he’ll lose ssj4.
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Lighting up a planet is just like 6-C, makai is obviously bigger but even if it's as big as a solar system due to the sun in it, it won't get them past Saiyan Saga results.

Even if it's as big as the universe and Goku lit that shit up to a baffling degree to the point of being actively blinding and even damaging to eyes, it'd only be petafoe.
 
Lord_Farquaad69420 said:
LOOK AT THOSE PECS!!!!!

(straight guy btw)
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Question, the Dabura that we saw in the Majin Buu saga is powered up with the Majin mark (the M on his forehead) right?
Based on that, none of the mentions about the Tama-idk being stronger than Dabura really matter in scaling, right? It usually comes from people in the Demon World, who probably haven't seen him with the M on his forehead. (That I remeber)
Worse than that, Dabura also had to meditate to be able to face Gohan
 
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Ok, I noticed one interesting thing, apparently Magic is divided in many elements; Wind, water, Ground, electricity, etc...I'm talking about when Duu opened that Magical book. So this puts down the argument of "Magic in Dragon Ball in Ki based" as many people think. Second, apparently Gomah has reactive evolutiona and immortality, we literally see how he regenerated after Vegeta blasted him, also some kind of size manipulation and multi-presence iirc
 
Sparkive said:
Question, the Dabura that you find in the Majin Buu saga is powered up with the Majin mark (the M on his forehead) right?
Based on that, none of the mentions about the Tama.idk being stronger than Dabura really matter in scaling, right? It usually comes from people in the Demon World, who probably haven't seen him with the M on his forehead. (That I remeber)
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Id assume if he were strong enough to take on the tamagami, he would've, rather than babidi having to wait for hundreds of years just to plan to wake buu up
 
Ruphas_Mafahl123 said:
Ok, I noticed one interesting thing, apparently Magic is divided in many elements; Wind, water, Ground, electricity, etc...I'm talking about when Duu opened that Magical book. So this puts down the argument of "Magic in Dragon Ball in Ki based" as many people think. Second, apparently Gomah has reactive evolutiona and immortality, we literally see how he regenerated after Vegeta blasted him, also some kind of size manipulation and multi-presence iirc
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Thoughts on this, guys?
 
Peak ass episode actually lol. My goodness this animation is too good. The best Dragon Ball has ever looked. Anyways the scaling implications are insane.

Base Vegeta was holding up against Gomah and actually hurting him, SSJ3 Vegeta was strong enough that he was low-diffing Gomah who seems to just have endless stamina and some manner of regeneration, even after losing SSJ3 and being extremely tired, base Vegeta was still holding up against Gomah pretty well. This is the same Gomah who fought SSJ4 Kid Goku, SSJ3 Kid Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, Piccolo, Duu, Kuu, Piccolo, and Glorio, beating all of them while immediately recovering to full strength afterwards and getting much stronger.

Base Vegeta as an adult in Daima is arguably stronger than SSJ4 Kid Goku, and is comfortably far stronger than SSJ3 Kid Goku, who would beat any and all of the Tamagami's, maybe even all at once, who individually are stronger than Dabura was in the Demon Realm. So pretty safe to say that Goku and Vegeta in base after 1 year alone would humiliate Dabura. Using the SSJ multipliers you could also make the argument that as kids they must have been hundreds of times weaker at least, which explains why they seemed way too weak whenever they were fighting the random creatures and soldiers of the Demon Realm.

Also holy hell Goku's back-to-back transformation scenes were RIDICULOUSLY good. The sheer power emanating from him in those scenes was palpable, the way that his SSJ4 aura lit up the entire Demon Realm was insane. (Hoping we get a statement later on that the Demon Realm is infinite and that Goku's Ki lit the entire thing up so that we can scale Daima characters to high-uni LMAO)

I love that Goku was canonically literally aura farming. He had no reason to cycle through all his forms and take so long, he did it to look cool on purpose. 😭
 
RinneItachi said:
Peak ass episode actually lol. My goodness this animation is too good. The best Dragon Ball has ever looked. Anyways the scaling implications are insane.

Base Vegeta was holding up against Gomah and actually hurting him, SSJ3 Vegeta was strong enough that he was low-diffing Gomah who seems to just have endless stamina and some manner of regeneration, even after losing SSJ3 and being extremely tired, base Vegeta was still holding up against Gomah pretty well. This is the same Gomah who fought SSJ4 Kid Goku, SSJ3 Kid Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, Piccolo, Duu, Kuu, Piccolo, and Glorio, beating all of them while immediately recovering to full strength afterwards and getting much stronger.

Base Vegeta as an adult in Daima is arguably stronger than SSJ4 Kid Goku, and is comfortably far stronger than SSJ3 Kid Goku, who would beat any and all of the Tamagami's, maybe even all at once, who individually are stronger than Dabura was in the Demon Realm. So pretty safe to say that Goku and Vegeta in base after 1 year alone would humiliate Dabura. Using the SSJ multipliers you could also make the argument that as kids they must have been hundreds of times weaker at least, which explains why they seemed way too weak whenever they were fighting the random creatures and soldiers of the Demon Realm.

Also holy hell Goku's back-to-back transformation scenes were RIDICULOUSLY good. The sheer power emanating from him in those scenes was palpable, the way that his SSJ4 aura lit up the entire Demon Realm was insane. (Hoping we get a statement later on that the Demon Realm is infinite and that Goku's Ki lit the entire thing up so that we can scale Daima characters to high-uni LMAO)

I love that Goku was canonically literally aura farming. He had no reason to cycle through all his forms and take so long, he did it to look cool on purpose. 😭
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Also, Gomah seems to be literally Immortal like Zamasu
 
Ruphas_Mafahl123 said:
Also, Gomah seems to be literally Immortal like Zamasu
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Seems like any damage done to him is irrelevant if the Tertian Oculus is still in his head. Destroying his head might work but who knows it might be like the Hogyoku.

To me it looked like SSJ3 Vegeta's Final Flash literally obliterated his body but he just reformed as a mass of energy and healed.
 
RinneItachi said:
he sheer power emanating from him in those scenes was palpable, the way that his SSJ4 aura lit up the entire Demon Realm was insane. (Hoping we get a statement later on that the Demon Realm is infinite and that Goku's Ki lit the entire thing up so that we can scale Daima characters to high-uni LMAO)
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assuming the feat is universal level how many characters would upscale a Adult ssj4 goku before BOG
 
StekFence said:
Not at all but otherwise keep cooking
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It does. I'm not saying it entirely makes sense. They are still stronger than Dabura as kids at this point when transformed, so they shouldn't be having a hard time. My point is more so that it makes more sense that they're reduced to such a level only as kids and that as adults they wouldn't have the same problems. Just because it doesn't make sense for powerscalers doesn't mean it doesn't fit within the narrative of the story. This doesn't need to be an argument lol, I think you can understand my point just fine.
 
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