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Devil May Cry Discussion Thread

I have my reasons for not revealing it currently. And if i say my reasons you definitely laugh a lot about it, but it's not ridiculous at all in my opinion.
Anyways i never forced anyone to accept it and you can forget it until i make my crt. Im only here because of its validity
Only answer this question: does this feat apply to the verse as immeasurable speed? Does it have any problems? Please don't say non-relative things, but i assume you'll never get out of its source's topic. After evaluation of it, you can forget it until my crt
 
I can understand some of that, but either you reveal the whole thing or you do not, no in between

Whats the point to drop that scan and not be given the source and be so secretive of it
 
Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
I have my reasons for not revealing it currently. And if i say my reasons you definitely laugh a lot about it, but it's not ridiculous at all in my opinion.
Anyways i never forced anyone to accept it and you can forget it until i make my crt. Im only here because of its validity
Only answer this question: does this feat apply to the verse as immeasurable speed? Does it have any problems? Please don't say non-relative things, but i assume you'll never get out of its source's topic. After evaluation of it, you can forget it until my crt
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you keep avoiding giving a source :)
SURELY if it's real there'd be absolutely no problem telling people where you got it and letting them verify it for themselves, right? you'd WANT to, if anything, to prove it's real, especially for smth like DMC where scans have been faked before
 
SeijiSetto said:
you keep avoiding giving a source :)
SURELY if it's real there'd be absolutely no problem telling people where you got it and letting them verify it for themselves, right? you'd WANT to, if anything, to prove it's real, especially for smth like DMC where scans have been faked before
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There's no way a fake dmc scan exists. You mean poc? That wasn't fake, that just has been removed
 
Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
There's no way a fake dmc scan exists. You mean poc? That wasn't fake, that just has been removed
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sure, we'll call it removed
you didn't actually answer the main question in my post tho so i'll repeat it for you
why would you not want to provide a source so people can verify it and prove it's real
what reason could you have for hiding where it comes from OR not posting the full uncropped picture
 
I said i have my reasons. If i say it, im sure you'll mocking me that how your thoughts are dumbish, but that's it.
Anyways please don't be out of my topic. Is this immeasurable without any problems or no?
If anyone talks about its source again i wouldn't reply them. After its evaluation, you can forget my existence and words
 
Robo432343 said:
guys report him he's faking scans
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He very literally hasn't done anything.

Even if he ended up making a CRT with a scan that was just fake, it still wouldn't prove he made it. If someone gives you a video of a staff member here peeing on a police car and you accuse the staff, then someone points out that it's clearly fake because the guy peeing has a profile pic where his face should be, the one who made the fake video is at fault for the fake info, you're just the one who fell for it.
 
Ya'll are wild. I must die rather than comes to dmc discussion anymore. You won't be calm until you kill me. And it's strange that why you don't answer my question. I know i would be ban after saying this. But this is not my fault at all, because i never said that you must accept this. But still all of you are jumping on me. I thought the discussion would be about its being immeasurable or no. You can now forget my existence and this feat. You can believe it's fake (and 100% you would reply me, yeah as i expected it was fake) but no matter how i explain, we can't have a good discussion.
Please forget my existence and never consider me as a user anymore. And i'll forget here (dmc discussion). I would discuss about other topics rather than dmc. Now im waiting for another jumping on me. Although im a new user, you are all reporting me for the work that i never done. I say this again, you'll are jumping on me after saying this. But please forget my existence because we can't have a good discussion. Bye
 
Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
Ya'll are wild. I must die rather than comes to dmc discussion anymore. You won't be calm until you kill me. And it's strange that why you don't answer my question. I know i would be ban after saying this. But this is not my fault at all, because i never said that you must accept this. But still all of you are jumping on me. I thought the discussion would be about its being immeasurable or no. You can now forget my existence and this feat. You can believe it's fake (and 100% you would reply me, yeah as i expected it was fake) but no matter how i explain, we can't have a good discussion.
Please forget my existence and never consider me as a user anymore. And i'll forget here (dmc discussion). I would discuss about other topics rather than dmc. Now im waiting for another jumping on me. Although im a new user, you are all reporting me for the work that i never done. I say this again, you'll are jumping on me after saying this. But please forget my existence because we can't have a good discussion. Bye
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Calm down, its just ribbing. If you got the proof, show it.
 
bro would literally rather stop scaling DMC on-site forever than say where the scan is from
 
Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
Ya'll are wild. I must die rather than comes to dmc discussion anymore. You won't be calm until you kill me. And it's strange that why you don't answer my question. I know i would be ban after saying this. But this is not my fault at all, because i never said that you must accept this. But still all of you are jumping on me. I thought the discussion would be about its being immeasurable or no. You can now forget my existence and this feat. You can believe it's fake (and 100% you would reply me, yeah as i expected it was fake) but no matter how i explain, we can't have a good discussion.
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Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
Please forget my existence and never consider me as a user anymore. And i'll forget here (dmc discussion). I would discuss about other topics rather than dmc. Now im waiting for another jumping on me. Although im a new user, you are all reporting me for the work that i never done. I say this again, you'll are jumping on me after saying this. But please forget my existence because we can't have a good discussion. Bye
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In all fairness, I think we discussed that the feat appears immeasurable. We're just asking if you have a source, but okay, we're happy to let you do your thing. I said it sounded suspicious, but I was explaining to you that that's how it comes off; I never accused you because I don't believe in that crap.

Only one person said some garbage about reporting you, and some staff are implying the scan is fake without any real reason to say so, which I actually don't think they should.

People are too quick to call scans fake, and in turn are too quick to try to ban whoever brings it up. This is actually a bad thing, and it's one of the many things people need to improve here.
 
SeijiSetto said:
bro would literally rather stop scaling DMC on-site forever than say where the scan is from
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I think he's reacting to being insulted rather than that, and Robo did basically just call for the digital noose without any reason.

Leaving aside Robo who is... a unique situation let's say, we probably shouldn't be leaping on this person like this. I do think it's weird, but what I think we're looking at here is someone who's nervous rather than shifty. Let's give them a chance.
 
Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
Ya'll are wild. I must die rather than comes to dmc discussion anymore. You won't be calm until you kill me. And it's strange that why you don't answer my question. I know i would be ban after saying this. But this is not my fault at all, because i never said that you must accept this. But still all of you are jumping on me. I thought the discussion would be about its being immeasurable or no. You can now forget my existence and this feat. You can believe it's fake (and 100% you would reply me, yeah as i expected it was fake) but no matter how i explain, we can't have a good discussion.
Please forget my existence and never consider me as a user anymore. And i'll forget here (dmc discussion). I would discuss about other topics rather than dmc. Now im waiting for another jumping on me. Although im a new user, you are all reporting me for the work that i never done. I say this again, you'll are jumping on me after saying this. But please forget my existence because we can't have a good discussion. Bye
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Buddy you were given an answer already it is immeasurable, you were asked afterwards the source of that scan, you just act so secretive of it for no reason, then you say its gonna be from something you are made fun of

Like nobody here is gonna make fun of you, but also none will take you seriously, if you are acting so weird about the source asked of it, poc had a case of fake scans, hiding the source doesnt strike to others being legit if you refuse
 
Random-Helper323 said:
Are you saying you disapprove of the higher dimensional stuff, the universal stuff, Mundus' stars not being dismissed as sprinkles, Argosax causing an eclipse, or just the entire concept of DMC having any notable power at all? Not all downplay is equal. Prior to all the confirmation I was always unique in that I would have been satisfied with Tier 4 or 5, as long as people would stop looking at this guy creating a dimension full of stars and saying "yep, that guy's multi city block level".
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1. I think anyone trying to say DMC has higher dimensional stuff is spitting BS
2. I don't like people using someone causing an Eclipse to justify tier because most of the time the authors who do it do not intend for it to be directly scaled to power (Like most feats involving the creation of a storm)
3. Like the above one, I feel like pocket dimensions are normally not what writters intend to scale to actual characters, however, this one I am more fine with it being a large structure/being scaled to Mundus because we literally see it being created by him. Having said that, unless it was ever stated that's a full on Universe somewhere, anything above tier 4 for is not something I like/think was intended when making the first game
4. I also understand the extended lore and guidebooks have tier 2 statements (I am not aware if Argosax fusing the human and demon world is stated in the actual game or if it is just from guidebooks, as I have never completed that game and the transcript makes no mention of it) which I personally dislike since the games don't try to show/state it and relying on things outside it is cringe, but it isn't something I would personally fight over since since I can understand why people would use it.

In short: I don't like Low 2-C/2-C at all, but I can see why some people would argue in favor of it, anything above it is disingenuous and I am confident in saying: Never intended by anyone who worked on the main Devil May Cry games
 
Drite77 said:
2. I don't like people using someone causing an Eclipse to justify tier because most of the time the authors who do it do not intend for it to be directly scaled to power (Like most feats involving the creation of a storm)
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This seems to be a matter of personal perception, more than logic. If the feat is directly done with his power and can be measured, it's kind of weird to dismiss it by assuming the authors had different intentions.
Drite77 said:
3. Like the above one, I feel like pocket dimensions are normally not what writters intend to scale to actual characters, however, this one I am more fine with it being a large structure/being scaled to Mundus because we literally see it being created by him. Having said that, unless it was ever stated that's a full on Universe somewhere, anything above tier 4 for is not something I like/think was intended when making the first game
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There are repeated statements calling it an infinite universe, and the writers definitely intended it as a way to showcase Mundus' power. As I said though, prior to all the clarification I would have been fine with 4-A. All the clarification makes it hard to ignore though.
Drite77 said:
4. I also understand the extended lore and guidebooks have tier 2 statements (I am not aware if Argosax fusing the human and demon world is stated in the actual game or if it is just from guidebooks, as I have never completed that game and the transcript makes no mention of it) which I personally dislike since the games don't try to show/state it and relying on things outside it is cringe, but it isn't something I would personally fight over since since I can understand why people would use it.

In short: I don't like Low 2-C/2-C at all, but I can see why some people would argue in favor of it, anything above it is disingenuous and I am confident in saying: Never intended by anyone who worked on the main Devil May Cry games
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From what I can tell the Tier 2 stuff sems to be very intended, but many authors don't have a powerscaling intent when making a feat, so by this reasoning any calculation is wrong since the author never intended it to be calculated.

Anyway, thanks for clarifying. My biggest worry isn't between the higher tiers, it's all the people who want DMC to be below Tier 7.
 
Drite77 said:
2. I don't like people using someone causing an Eclipse to justify tier because most of the time the authors who do it do not intend for it to be directly scaled to power (Like most feats involving the creation of a storm)
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It was agreed Argosax pulled it via its demonic energy, which falls under UES
Drite77 said:
3. Like the above one, I feel like pocket dimensions are normally not what writters intend to scale to actual characters, however, this one I am more fine with it being a large structure/being scaled to Mundus because we literally see it being created by him. Having said that, unless it was ever stated that's a full on Universe somewhere, anything above tier 4 for is not something I like/think was intended when making the first game
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Kamiya answered if it was a universe or not and a japanese written material says he creates a universe with stars expanding endlessly
Drite77 said:
4. I also understand the extended lore and guidebooks have tier 2 statements (I am not aware if Argosax fusing the human and demon world is stated in the actual game or if it is just from guidebooks, as I have never completed that game and the transcript makes no mention of it) which I personally dislike since the games don't try to show/state it and relying on things outside it is cringe, but it isn't something I would personally fight over since since I can understand why people would use it.
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There any other character whom does it, plus after irs death the fusion stops
Drite77 said:
In short: I don't like Low 2-C/2-C at all, but I can see why some people would argue in favor of it, anything above it is disingenuous and I am confident in saying: Never intended by anyone who worked on the main Devil May Cry games
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Also this sounds like a common thing to argue any series, authors clearly wont most of the time care of power levels of a character, but their intention with demon lords is to be godly beings of immense power that Dante confronts
 
Okay I'm serious, y'all are making useless fuss over it.

I personally don't believe the validity of the scans he presented but this stupid behavior to force him out the source like that when he clearly doesn't want to needs to stop. If his scans are actually valid then alright but if not then straight ban in the upcoming CRT he makes later into the future—simple as that.

@Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe just notify me beforehand you make your CRT soo I can adjust the quantity and timing of threads on my part.
 
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Imma be honest, if you reveal a scan that buffs majority of the cast, not just the strongest characters, why would you hide the source in the first place so much when asked for it

Either you dont reveal it and say you found something that buffs them or reveal it in full and have others opinion, like its so outrageous to ask source for something that would make even Lady scale to?
 
Your concern is understandable but privacy is a thing as well which we should respect regardless how suspicious it sounds.

If he is not comfortable to reveal it in detail yet then we shouldn't force him to.
 
Idk why privacy is needed for a huge possible upgrade like that at all, nobody asked personal info, just source of that scan
 
In fairness, he's asked to hold off on revealing the source until he is ready to actually do something with it. It's not as if he's making a revision while refusing to reveal the source.
 
Robo432343 said:
wait nvm i found something
www.pixiv.net

樂園と悪魔 Side: DANTE

其の国、東の方角において幻を示現せり。 幻、是即ち有情の忘却せし諸魔にして、普く衆生の趣く所と、善悪の業縁と、受報の好醜の事に及べり。 諸の衆、視ること、知ること、触れること、能わず、なればこそ魔の蓮華、縁起の法にて阿鼻地獄より上、有頂に至るまで、此が滅すれば彼が生じ、彼が滅すれ
www.pixiv.net www.pixiv.net
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Nevermind i guess lol
 
Robo432343 said:
wait nvm i found something
www.pixiv.net

樂園と悪魔 Side: DANTE

其の国、東の方角において幻を示現せり。 幻、是即ち有情の忘却せし諸魔にして、普く衆生の趣く所と、善悪の業縁と、受報の好醜の事に及べり。 諸の衆、視ること、知ること、触れること、能わず、なればこそ魔の蓮華、縁起の法にて阿鼻地獄より上、有頂に至るまで、此が滅すれば彼が生じ、彼が滅すれ
www.pixiv.net www.pixiv.net
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Well, I guess we can look into translations and whatnot. There's a whole lot of writing there, so who knows.
 
Random-Helper323 said:
Well, I guess we can look into translations and whatnot. There's a whole lot of writing there, so who knows.
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I used translation on the pages available there, nothing about concept or speed is talked there to match scan in question

Doesnt seem to be from there anyway and its fan fiction with tags for touhou or whatever too
 
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Robo432343 said:
wait nvm i found something
www.pixiv.net

樂園と悪魔 Side: DANTE

其の国、東の方角において幻を示現せり。 幻、是即ち有情の忘却せし諸魔にして、普く衆生の趣く所と、善悪の業縁と、受報の好醜の事に及べり。 諸の衆、視ること、知ること、触れること、能わず、なればこそ魔の蓮華、縁起の法にて阿鼻地獄より上、有頂に至るまで、此が滅すれば彼が生じ、彼が滅すれ
www.pixiv.net www.pixiv.net

its probably not it tho
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How you even stumbled upon that in the reverse search? It doesnt pop anything dmc related, even when i add it, its not searching any sites related to it or so
 
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