BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Arc7Kuroi]

Hell, even Bazz-B's strongest move Burning Full Fingers, spells BFF.

Idk about that, but here's my analysis of Bazz's arsenal I sent Deceived:

Bazz-B’s Burner Fingers are representative of key defining moments in his life

1 - the bullet: his mom’s death
2 - the claw: hunting wild beasts with Jugram
3 - the banner: recruitment into the Sternritter
4 - the sword: his conflict with Jugram
5 - fingers curled waiting for you: his death with his fingers curled around Jugram’s coat

What’s further neat about this is that the only Burner Fingers Jugram evades completely, never taking the attack directly is BF4, which is the one that represents his and Bazz’s conflict. Which also is reflective of Jugram running from/always trying to avoid a fight with Bazz

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Literary genius

 

[Tyri456]

Bazz and Jugram also have just 1 day difference as birth date from Ichigo and Uryu

 

[Khaostichny]

I find it very curious how the Quincys, more specifically those who followed Yhwach, already had "firearms" more than 1000 years ago.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I find it very curious how the Quincys, more specifically those who followed Yhwach, already had "firearms" more than 1000 years ago.

It's hilarious how Sui-Feng commented on them only having bows when mfs literally were hitting clips back over 1200 years ago, and to me what looks like more advanced rifles than even around the early 1900s.

Hell, that same Quincy girl had a f*cking full auto over 1000 years before current Bleach. They were very technologically advanced in terms of warfare, I mean the first Quincy granted a Schrift literally has a sniper rifle

 

[AppleLord]

Ukitake vs Yhwach?

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[GOATMAN1232000]

I find it very curious how the Quincys, more specifically those who followed Yhwach, already had "firearms" more than 1000 years ago.

Yhwach probably used the Almighty to look into the future and outfit his arm with better gear.

 

[Politebunny7]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/unohana-vs-zoro.175653/ Input here

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Idk about that, but here's my analysis of Bazz's arsenal I sent Deceived:

Bazz-B’s Burner Fingers are representative of key defining moments in his life

1 - the bullet: his mom’s death
2 - the claw: hunting wild beasts with Jugram
3 - the banner: recruitment into the Sternritter
4 - the sword: his conflict with Jugram
5 - fingers curled waiting for you: his death with his fingers curled around Jugram’s coat

What’s further neat about this is that the only Burner Fingers Jugram evades completely, never taking the attack directly is BF4, which is the one that represents his and Bazz’s conflict. Which also is reflective of Jugram running from/always trying to avoid a fight with Bazz

Interesting

I also like how Jurgram noticably loses his composure a little briefly when calling out Bazz-B's full name to tell him to stop. Jurgram really didn't want to fight the dude.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

The voice actors performance really elevated that scene

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

The animation was also really on top with the character acting and action. Burning Full Fingers looked beautiful. The person who did the first half of Ichigo vs Uryu did that and the start of the fight with Burner Finger 1, Yuki Sato. The VA work was incredible, probably the second best voiceover work only to Born In The Dark imo.

All in all.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Ichigo Unable to Cut Down Uryū

During the battle with Yhwach, Uryū suddenly appears before Ichigo and the others. Standing in their way as an enemy, Uryū continues to attack without holding back. Ichigo, desperate to understand Uryū's true intentions, shouts, "Why are you there?!" However, unable to be ruthless, Ichigo can only defend himself against Uryū's attacks.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Nice confirmation Ichigo held back

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Ichigo Unable to Cut Down Uryū

During the battle with Yhwach, Uryū suddenly appears before Ichigo and the others. Standing in their way as an enemy, Uryū continues to attack without holding back. Ichigo, desperate to understand Uryū's true intentions, shouts, "Why are you there?!" However, unable to be ruthless, Ichigo can only defend himself against Uryū's attacks.

As much as I love glazing current Uryu, we can say that a serious TS Ichigo would've beaten him. Although I'd be interested in how he'd do against no Almighty Post-Reawakening Yhwach seeing as Ichigo beat his ass.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Thread 'Wonderweiss Margela Violates the Elite Sternritter'

Dec 24, 2024

Intro
Guys I have a confession, I've been downplaying WONDERWEISS MARGELA for far too long. My boy is just blatantly in the same tier of power as Yamamoto.

Meat and Potatoes
Here's my proposal for Wonderweiss's new statistics justifications.

Tier: ...at most 5-C with Resurreccion, higher with Centurion

AP: ...at most Moon level with Resurreccion (Defeated Bankai Kensei off-screen, Wonderweiss, and explicitly his Resurreccion, was created by abandoning all other faculties in order to combat Yamamoto and seal away his Shikai<ref>Bleach Chapter 393...

• Arc7Kuroi
• bleach (verse) shigekuni yamamoto genryusai wonderweiss margela
• Replies: 22
• Forum: Content Revision

• 

Come my children, it's Res Wonderweiss we're up against

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Thread 'Wonderweiss Margela Violates the Elite Sternritter'

Dec 24, 2024

Intro
Guys I have a confession, I've been downplaying WONDERWEISS MARGELA for far too long. My boy is just blatantly in the same tier of power as Yamamoto.

Meat and Potatoes
Here's my proposal for Wonderweiss's new statistics justifications.

Tier: ...at most 5-C with Resurreccion, higher with Centurion

AP: ...at most Moon level with Resurreccion (Defeated Bankai Kensei off-screen, Wonderweiss, and explicitly his Resurreccion, was created by abandoning all other faculties in order to combat Yamamoto and seal away his Shikai<ref>Bleach Chapter 393...

• Arc7Kuroi
• bleach (verse) shigekuni yamamoto genryusai wonderweiss margela
• Replies: 22
• Forum: Content Revision

• 

Come my children, it's Res Wonderweiss we're up against

Yes sir

 

[Excellence616]

Ichigo Unable to Cut Down Uryū

During the battle with Yhwach, Uryū suddenly appears before Ichigo and the others. Standing in their way as an enemy, Uryū continues to attack without holding back. Ichigo, desperate to understand Uryū's true intentions, shouts, "Why are you there?!" However, unable to be ruthless, Ichigo can only defend himself against Uryū's attacks.

Sauce?

 

[Adam1396]

Well, Kubo states that Shunsui didn’t get much stronger from the Arrancar arc to the TYBW arc. So the scaling he gets in the TYBW (speed scaling primarily) should apply to his Arrancar arc self. And he has Bankai which is powerful enough to harm Lille with raw spiritual pressure. But I do think if you restrict it to Shikai Shunsui vs Gin and do speed equal it’s a good debate. Otherwise Shunsui should dominate

Did kubo state that in club outside?
Can I get that scan?

 

[WheelSome]

As much as I love glazing current Uryu, we can say that a serious TS Ichigo would've beaten him. Although I'd be interested in how he'd do against no Almighty Post-Reawakening Yhwach seeing as Ichigo beat his ass.

Unless Base Yhwach is strong enough to one-shot VSS Uryu he won't be able to defeat him due to Antithesis. Which he is not but I think both VSS Uryu and Base Yhwach are relative to each one another in terms of raw power.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Did kubo state that in club outside?
Can I get that scan?

 

[Tyri456]

Ichigo Unable to Cut Down Uryū

During the battle with Yhwach, Uryū suddenly appears before Ichigo and the others. Standing in their way as an enemy, Uryū continues to attack without holding back. Ichigo, desperate to understand Uryū's true intentions, shouts, "Why are you there?!" However, unable to be ruthless, Ichigo can only defend himself against Uryū's attacks.

Nice

 

[Tyri456]

Official illustration from the Anime staff, Santa Aizen is canon now

 

[WheelSome]

Official illustration from the Anime staff, Santa Aizen is canon now

This is great! Aizen crushing the SK's Torrent of Power with Kurohitsugi is funny.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Aizen distributing mini Kurohitsugi as coal is great

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Official illustration from the Anime staff, Santa Aizen is canon now

"Since when did you think I wasn't using my Christmas Suigetsu?"

 

[GOATMAN1232000]

Now we need Yhwach as the Grinch.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Santa Ichibe with the white beard

 

[Hasty12345]

Santa Ichibe with the white beard

I haven't got the scans (and I forgot to note the issues...) but I went through and added all the abilities to a sandbox here

Sandbox 7

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Aside from some potency things, some hax layers and a couple resistances, most of the key stuff is already on the PC and Rebirth profiles.

 

[Nierre]

Why are you posting about Superman here?

 

[Hasty12345]

What...

I swear on my own grave.... HUH

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

What’s happening

 

[Hasty12345]

What’s happening

I was meant to post that on the DC general thread, I didn't even have this thread open, I have no idea how I ended up replying to your comment...

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

What...

I swear on my own grave.... HUH

You had a me moment.

"F*** wrong thread."

 

[Hasty12345]

You had a me moment.

"F*** wrong thread."

I might of had one too many...

 

[Adam1396]

What about byakuya who trained in reio palace?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

What about byakuya who trained in reio palace?

It's not talking about Byakuya. It's talking about people like Shunsui, Unohana, and Yamamoto.

 

[Tyri456]

What about byakuya who trained in reio palace?

Byakuya aint that old

Pure Shinigami are bounded to reach a limit/wall, as Aizen explained in SS arc, thats a pretty establish thing in the lore, so Kubo its spitting facts

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

What about byakuya who trained in reio palace?

Pretty sure Byakuya ain't 2000+ years old

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Byakuya is a very new captain, 100 years ago he was just a squirt

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Byakuya is a very new captain, 100 years ago he was just a squirt

He was a lil shit, prob a little older than Toshiro.