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Terrifier 3/Novelization Upgrades and Revisions

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I recently got my hands on the Terrifier 2 novel. Art doesn't get anything major, but his profile does need some reworking with regards to

Little Pale Girl
She should have her own separate page entirely since Art's page is kind of a mess rn. She's numerous times stated to far more powerful than Art:

"As dangerous as he was, he was nothing compared to this... this blasphemy" (19)
"Art had been a monster, but the Little Pale Girl was something else entirely" (377)

And her own child form is weaker than its true form, so she should have "higher in true form" listed.

"This Little Pale Girl felt exactly like that, only her power was contained and controlled" (39)

Also, as Victoria she's able to casually rip out people's throats and cave in their skulls so it's not all statements.

She should have all her current listed powers, plus Sleep Manipulation with Superhuman speed

"The instant he started to wake, she moved swift as a striking snake and grabbed his wrist... His eyelids twitched a couple of times, but they remained closed." (42-43)

Empowerment

She amps Art by playing patty cake with him

"Art laughed with silent delight. He felt much better than he had when he'd walked into the laundromat. Stronger, full of energy." (41)

Healing

Art doesn't actually heal of his own power, LPG healed him via a pretend make up kit, until then his eye was still blown out with injuries from his Terrifier 1 outage so Regeneration probably needs to be removed from his profile

Possession


She possessed Vicky in Terrifier 3

Immortality Type 2

Possessed Vicky didn't bleed to death from slitting her death and sitting in a bathtub for years.

Portal Manipulation

She created a portal to hell upon death in the Terrifier 3 finale

Dream Manipulation

This also needs to be on Art's profile. She alongside Art terrorizes the Shaw family in their dreams.

Social Influencing/Madness Manipulation

She drives Victoria insane by urging her to kill before possessing her.

Superhuman Lifting Strength

She tears a man's jaw off.


Sienna Shaw
She's currently human level aside from gear. The novel makes it quite clear she's equal to Art. She takes the same skull crushing stomp and even is explicitly stated to overpower him.
"Art grinned and tried to pull the flail free, but Sienna refused to let him. Art put all his strength into it, but it did no good." (350)

Art breathed hard as he gazed upon Sienna's unconscious body. It had been a while since he'd exerted himself like this, and he was surprised by how much resistance the girl had put up." (335)
Art even gets pissed that he had to exert himself.

Terrifier 3 also has her kicking Art's ass if not for her being distracted by her cousin.

It is implied to be some sort of adrenaline amp and Art effortlessly overpowers her later on though. Make of that what you will. Maybe she just has ordinary stamina.

She should also have Mid-Low Regeneration as Terrifier 3 shows her healing some deep cuts and broken bones in seconds

Dream Manipulation

The novel confirms Sienna willed the magic sword into her dream to block Art's flame-thrower and it's implied the sword became magic after the dream

Superhuman Speed

Sienna was able to blitz the LPG while she was possessing Victoria.


Resistance to Soul Manipulation

The entire 3rd act of Terrifier 3 was a ploy to mentally break Sienna so the LPG could possess her. She tries to and fails.

Weapon Mastery

Impaled Victoria with a sword throw and matched Art armed with a chainsaw

Art the Clown

Not quite sure what this qualifies as, but Art is able to operate normally even without a head in Terrifier 3. Maybe Superhuman Senses

His intelligence should be At least Above Average or Gifted for making a bomb and a freezing gun in Terrifier 3.

Speaking of which, he bombs a mall and kills several kids. The explosion itself is probably 9-B to 9-A at most, but his AP should at least be listed as far higher with preparation

Superhuman Speed
for keeping up with Sienna

As mentioned before, remove Regeneration from his profile it also shouldn't be Mid.

Superhuman Strength, Possibly Class 5

I don't know why he doesn't already have this. Terrifier 2 shows him easily breaking limbs, tearing them off, and ripping apart skulls, not something peak humans can do. In Terrifier 3, he casually tosses a man several feet away before ripping his face and jaw off.

The Possibly Class 5 comes from a scene early on when he (while headless) gets the jump on a cop. The next scene shows him with the cop's head. There's no blade around with which he could have decapitated the guy so it's inferable Art just did it manually.

Since he's confirmed to be human in the first film, he should also have a separate key that just has the basics - superhuman stats, pain tolerance, and stealth mastery

Tldr

Little Pale Girl gets a separate profile with additional haxes. She is
At Least Street Level (Far more powerful than Art the Clown, effortlessly restrained and tore out a large man's throat), Higher in True Form.
At Least Superhuman, Possibly Class 5, Higher in True Form
Superhuman Speed
(as fast as a striking snake)
Sienna gets some extra hax and now scales to Art so she's
Street Level (Matched Art the Clown)
Superhuman, Possibly Class 5
Superhuman Speed (Blitzed the Little Pale Girl)

Art gets a "Human" and "Post-Resurrection" key both 9-C and far higher with prep, but the second one has all his haxes
Street Level (Crushed a man's skull), far higher with preparation | Street Level (Stronger than before, can easily overpower and mutilate humans with his bare hands), far higher with preparation
Athletic Human
(frequently overpowers ordinary humans) | Superhuman, Possibly Class 5 (Can casually break bones, jaws, and toss around grown men. Possibly ripped a cop's head off)
Average Human | Superhuman (Kept up with Sienna)
Intelligence: At Least Above Average or Gifted (Evaded the police and infiltrated a school building, Knows how to operate firearms, can craft powerful makeshift explosives and freezing solutions)
 
I have a few suggestions such as counting the short films from 2008 to 2013 as canon, I'm pretty sure one of the creators confirmed it was
 
You beat me to it
I recently got my hands on the Terrifier 2 novel. Art doesn't get anything major, but his profile does need some reworking with regards to
I did not know that there was a novelization, that's sick
Little Pale Girl
Everything seems fine with 1 exception. Ripping off a jaw is Class 10 so she would have Class 10 LS
It is implied to be some sort of adrenaline amp and Art effortlessly overpowers her later on though. Make of that what you will. Maybe she just has ordinary stamina.
She definetly does NOT have ordinary stamina. She had her hands OBLITERATED to the point where I'm suprised she had enough muscle fibers left to bend her fingers, as well as immense physical & emotional trauma, yet she was still able to go hand-to-hand with Victoria & Art for an extended period of time, and at the end of it all she didn't seem tired (though the sword likely helped with that) so she's definetly got better stamina then your average man
Resistance to Soul Manipulation

The entire 3rd act of Terrifier 3 was a ploy to mentally break Sienna so the LPG could possess her. She tries to and fails.
I'd personally say that's more so just supernatural willpower rather than resistance to possession. She seemed to be possessed for a few seconds as we see with her eyes, but straight up willpowered herself out of it, even after all the mental torture she had gone through just before that scene
Not quite sure what this qualifies as, but Art is able to operate normally even without a head in Terrifier 3. Maybe Superhuman Senses
I think that'd be extrasensory perception? Idk though, that's not my expertise. He should definetly get that added to his immortality & maybe even body control as well since he could operate his body despite his head not being attached
His intelligence should be At least Above Average or Gifted for making a bomb and a freezing gun in Terrifier 3.
Art still pretty consistantly shows himself to not be terribly intelligent, not really having that much common sense. So maybe something like "Average in Common Sense, Gifted in Invention Ability" or something like that? Idk
Speaking of which, he bombs a mall and kills several kids. The explosion itself is probably 9-B to 9-A at most, but his AP should at least be listed as far higher with preparation
Once the movie comes out I can probably calculate it myself. Definetly Wall level tho
Art doesn't actually heal of his own power, LPG healed him via a pretend make up kit, until then his eye was still blown out with injuries from his Terrifier 1 outage so Regeneration probably needs to be removed from his profile
He stops spurting blood from his neck & seems to recover from a deep stab wound by the end of Terrifier 3, so I think something like Mid-Low regen would still work for him
The Possibly Class 5 comes from a scene early on when he (while headless) gets the jump on a cop. The next scene shows him with the cop's head. There's no blade around with which he could have decapitated the guy so it's inferable Art just did it manually.
I agree with this. You could also argue that he might have Class 10 due to scaling to LPG, but she has been established to be more powerful than him so that probably can't happen

1 final thing, he throws Sienna through a table in one of the scenes, which is Wall level, so Art should get a bump to his AP
 
coincidently i started working on a rework of sienna's profile recently
I'd personally say that's more so just supernatural willpower rather than resistance to possession. She seemed to be possessed for a few seconds as we see with her eyes, but straight up willpowered herself out of it, even after all the mental torture she had gone through just before that scene
it could be added as Resistance to Possession via Willpower

the ce manip page has something similar:
Mind Manipulation (Via willpower, Nobara was able to resist charming/compulsion effects from a cursed word user who had amplified his CT via talismans and an improvised domain)
I think that'd be extrasensory perception? Idk though, that's not my expertise.
couldn't it be both? Finding his head with Vicky is def extrasensory perception but the way Art was able to kill the cop while not being able to see him seemed like enhanced senses to me
I have a few suggestions such as counting the short films from 2008 to 2013 as canon, I'm pretty sure one of the creators confirmed it was
all hallows' eve isn't canon
 
You beat me to it

I did not know that there was a novelization, that's sick

Everything seems fine with 1 exception. Ripping off a jaw is Class 10 so she would have Class 10 LS
Even better
She definetly does NOT have ordinary stamina. She had her hands OBLITERATED to the point where I'm suprised she had enough muscle fibers left to bend her fingers, as well as immense physical & emotional trauma, yet she was still able to go hand-to-hand with Victoria & Art for an extended period of time, and at the end of it all she didn't seem tired (though the sword likely helped with that) so she's definetly got better stamina then your average man
I was trying to reconcile her varying performances against Art. Art stomps her their first encounter, gets stomped when she grabs his whip and seems completely superior until she gets the sword in T2, then in T3 he low diffs her before she gets her sword, with which she overpowers him
Art still pretty consistantly shows himself to not be terribly intelligent, not really having that much common sense. So maybe something like "Average in Common Sense, Gifted in Invention Ability" or something like that? Idk
I think that falls under his weakness of mental illness/sadism. I agree on separating his intelligence with gadgetry and tactics.
He stops spurting blood from his neck & seems to recover from a deep stab wound by the end of Terrifier 3, so I think something like Mid-Low regen would still work for him
High-low since he does reattach his head in T3
I agree with this. You could also argue that he might have Class 10 due to scaling to LPG, but she has been established to be more powerful than him so that probably can't happen
I think he does partially rip off the maintenance man's jaw in T3
 
coincidently i started working on a rework of sienna's profile recently

it could be added as Resistance to Possession via Willpower

the ce manip page has something similar:


couldn't it be both? Finding his head with Vicky is def extrasensory perception but the way Art was able to kill the cop while not being able to see him seemed like enhanced senses to me

all hallows' eve isn't canon
Fair enough
 
Wait,the girl died?,wasn't the girl responsible for reviving art or smthng?,so does this means T3 is the final movie of the saga or no?
 
Wait,the girl died?,wasn't the girl responsible for reviving art or smthng?,so does this means T3 is the final movie of the saga or no?
No, Terrifier 4 is confirmed, and the director even floated the idea of Terrifier 5. The girl just disappeared into what is presumably Hell. I don't think she's dead.
 

Abstract Existence scan is obviously figurative language and a metaphor. Same thing for Speed, this is quite literally a simile "as swift as a striking snake." Sleep Manipulation is unclear if she's the cause of all this shit. Vague.
Superhuman Speed
Sienna was able to blitz the LPG while she was possessing Victoria.


Resistance to Soul Manipulation

The entire 3rd act of Terrifier 3 was a ploy to mentally break Sienna so the LPG could possess her. She tries to and fails.

As explained, she wouldn't be Superhuman speed due to the text describing it as a simile. That's not resistance to Soul Manipulation. Resistance to Possession. Unless It's described they specifically possess her soul, Soul Manipulation is reasonable. But I believe they possess her body alone.


Art the Clown

Not quite sure what this qualifies as, but Art is able to operate normally even without a head in Terrifier 3. Maybe Superhuman Senses
Looks like Body Control to me.



I approve of everything else.
 
Abstract Existence scan is obviously figurative language and a metaphor. Same thing for Speed, this is quite literally a simile "as swift as a striking snake." Sleep Manipulation is unclear if she's the cause of all this shit. Vague.
I don't think it's metaphor. There's a couple other statements in the book describing how some people perceive the LPG or her van as "wrong" compared to reality, a black void or hole in an otherwise normal landscape.
Similes also function as comparisons, not just hyperboles. "I am AS strong as John, she is AS smart as me." It becomes less literal with the word "like."
As explained, she wouldn't be Superhuman speed due to the text describing it as a simile. That's not resistance to Soul Manipulation. Resistance to Possession. Unless It's described they specifically possess her soul, Soul Manipulation is reasonable. But I believe they possess her body alone.
That's fine.
 
I don't think it's metaphor. There's a couple other statements in the book describing how some people perceive the LPG or her van as "wrong" compared to reality, a black void or hole in an otherwise normal landscape.
This seems like figurative language to me rather than literal representation.
Similes also function as comparisons, not just hyperboles. "I am AS strong as John, she is AS smart as me." It becomes less literal with the word "like."
This applies in the example you've provided. The statement in question is "as fast as a striking snake" which is a comparison of speed rather than literal truth. Authors tend to use statements like these to talk about how swift something is, example being "as fast as lightning", rather than indicating literal speed.
 
This seems like figurative language to me rather than literal representation.
How would you phrase it if you were writing it and trying to express it literally? I think the author put great emphasis on her embodying Nothingness as he clarifies she wasn't just a shadow or a dark figure, but something far greater.
This applies in the example you've provided. The statement in question is "as fast as a striking snake" which is a comparison of speed rather than literal truth. Authors tend to use statements like these to talk about how swift something is, example being "as fast as lightning", rather than indicating literal speed.
Supposing it is literal, how else would you express it? "She moved her arm with the same speed as a striking snake." Obviously, that statement is wordier and flows less smoothly so the simile with the "as" is better. Since "as swift as a striking snake" isn't even a common phrase, I think it's more reasonable to take it literally
 
How would you phrase it if you were writing it and trying to express it literally? I think the author put great emphasis on her embodying Nothingness as he clarifies she wasn't just a shadow or a dark figure, but something far greater.
This is obviously figurative language. The story is largely grounded in reality so there's not much hax to the level of Abstract Existence, also given the nature of the statement. "Its size varied rapidly, taller than the clown one instant, small as a pebble the next. Then the shadow stabilized at around four feet. It assumed a roughly human form, pure dark and featureless. No, not a shadow, Seth realized. A shadow was something. This was Nothing with a capital N—a great, endless emptiness in the shape of a child." This is full of figurative language and hyperboles and is dismissed as such until further.

This was Nothing with a capital N. This is legit screaming metaphorical.

Supposing it is literal, how else would you express it? "She moved her arm with the same speed as a striking snake." Obviously, that statement is wordier and flows less smoothly so the simile with the "as" is better. Since "as swift as a striking snake" isn't even a common phrase, I think it's more reasonable to take it literally
I wouldn't go as far as to take it literally. It's rather vague and a simile, and we dismiss it as such because statements like that aren't meant to be taken as literal, an indication of how fast something is, rather than speaking of the literal truth. We have no reason to treat this as literal, and there are several anti-feats in the show which go against this.
 
This is obviously figurative language. The story is largely grounded in reality so there's not much hax to the level of Abstract Existence, also given the nature of the statement. "Its size varied rapidly, taller than the clown one instant, small as a pebble the next. Then the shadow stabilized at around four feet. It assumed a roughly human form, pure dark and featureless. No, not a shadow, Seth realized. A shadow was something. This was Nothing with a capital N—a great, endless emptiness in the shape of a child." This is full of figurative language and hyperboles and is dismissed as such until further.

This was Nothing with a capital N. This is legit screaming metaphorical.
"No, not a shadow, Seth realized. A shadow was something..."
Exact opposite of a metaphor, you don't clarify a metaphor like this.
Abstract Existence AFAIK doesn't have to massive hax, her stuff within the story quite cleanly fits Type 2

"Embodies an abstraction, and can be resurrected or regenerate indefinitely thanks to it. Destroying the abstraction is required to permanently kill those characters, but they can still be affected without directly altering it."

Furthermore, if it was the narrator, sure, but this is Seth's inner thoughts as, why would he be thinking in metaphors?
I wouldn't go as far as to take it literally. It's rather vague and a simile, and we dismiss it as such because statements like that aren't meant to be taken as literal, an indication of how fast something is, rather than speaking of the literal truth. We have no reason to treat this as literal, and there are several anti-feats in the show which go against this.
I doubt it. Superhuman isn't that impressive of a speed tier, irl boxers are considered "superhuman" here. So anti-feats could easily be dsmissed as realistic since average to athletic humans don't have a massive gap to the baseline superhuman tier on VsBw.
 
"No, not a shadow, Seth realized. A shadow was something..."
Exact opposite of a metaphor, you don't clarify a metaphor like this.
Abstract Existence AFAIK doesn't have to massive hax, her stuff within the story quite cleanly fits Type 2

"Embodies an abstraction, and can be resurrected or regenerate indefinitely thanks to it. Destroying the abstraction is required to permanently kill those characters, but they can still be affected without directly altering it."

Furthermore, if it was the narrator, sure, but this is Seth's inner thoughts as, why would he be thinking in metaphors?
Inner thoughts or not, it's a book. You write figurative language and stuff like that to hook and immerse the reader. Authors use stuff like this all the time. That reminds me, you need to prove that LPG can regenerate or resurrect thanks to embodying an abstraction. Nothing with a capital N. Just think and put it in perspective - it isn't literal. Why would Seth put all this together in his thoughts "endless emptiness in the shape of a child"? Because it's not literal, rather figurative language.
I doubt it. Superhuman isn't that impressive of a speed tier, irl boxers are considered "superhuman" here. So anti-feats could easily be dsmissed as realistic since average to athletic humans don't have a massive gap to the baseline superhuman tier on VsBw.
As I explained above, simile. If your referring to WWE, that's obviously not IRL stuff. That's a whole different discussion.
 
Inner thoughts or not, it's a book. You write figurative language and stuff like that to hook and immerse the reader. Authors use stuff like this all the time. That reminds me, you need to prove that LPG can regenerate or resurrect thanks to embodying an abstraction. Nothing with a capital N. Just think and put it in perspective - it isn't literal. Why would Seth put all this together in his thoughts "endless emptiness in the shape of a child"? Because it's not literal, rather figurative language.

As I explained above, simile. If your referring to WWE, that's obviously not IRL stuff. That's a whole different discussion.
We're going in circles with this. I'll let other people decide.
 

Art just needs to have her powers removed and get his upgrades + Sienna
 
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