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I'll be fine, I'll just ignore feats that are already calculated but otherwise yeah just doing a bit each day is no biggie
Peeps are free to help if they want ofc but otherwise I'll just do it overtime
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Dandadan - Speed standard
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Peeps are free to help if they want ofc but otherwise I'll just do it overtime
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The feats that exceed 100 km/hr should at least be acknowledged with a possibly rating. They shouldn't be ignored.
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Yup that's basically how I feel too cause like its consistently much higher ranged
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Also back to this I think the 3m height given in thr story is how I measured it looking through this again, its slightly taller than the Torii gate in the post its in, Torii gates on average are 2.6m tall so it does fit with the low sumo stance it has otherwise its actual size would be bigger if it stood straight
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Nah that would be consistent tbh I'll show ya via measurments when im home cause if its low sitting height is 3m then it is actually taller
Like I said its low stance is slightly taller than tori gate which would align with the 3m figure we're given
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Yes, when a sumo wrestler stands up, they are definitely over 3 meters tall. But we can still see it with the naked eye. If we compare Momo’s size to the size of a sumo wrestler when he’s in a 3-meter stance, Momo is still much bigger than the sumo wrestler’s hand.
And the torii gate is definitely taller than 2.6 meters when compared to Momo. It might even reach 6 meters.
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I was wondering about this. There are several speed feats that contradict the given 100 km/hr statement. And it's pretty consistent.
Aside from the Train fight which was at the very start of the story, the whole 100 km/hr limit is never brought up in battle (Yes I am aware Granny Points it out again and again but never a limit in battle or compared to anything)
And then there are feats from other characters. Like Evil Eye dodging lightning and Aira dodging missiles.
The 100kmph limit just seems like oversight on the writers part as they probably didn't plan to make characters so strong.
And it's nothing new about writers have no idea how fast and strong they have made their characters. For example take Deku. According to the author he is "medium" in physical fitness while being able to lift and run with a 800 kg iron plate and Gearshift is just reaching Supersonic and Transonic Iida is like the fastest shit ever.
Or Saitama breaking Hero associations standards in physical test despite the fact that any physical power based hero A class above should easily be able to do the thing Saitama does in the test.
Or Vegeta not being able to lift to 1000 tons but Kid Goku can move a whole ass boulder.
So in my opinion 100 kmph is a writer oversight and the verse should not be capped in the presence of this many significant speed feats.
Aside from the Train fight which was at the very start of the story, the whole 100 km/hr limit is never brought up in battle (Yes I am aware Granny Points it out again and again but never a limit in battle or compared to anything)
And then there are feats from other characters. Like Evil Eye dodging lightning and Aira dodging missiles.
The 100kmph limit just seems like oversight on the writers part as they probably didn't plan to make characters so strong.
And it's nothing new about writers have no idea how fast and strong they have made their characters. For example take Deku. According to the author he is "medium" in physical fitness while being able to lift and run with a 800 kg iron plate and Gearshift is just reaching Supersonic and Transonic Iida is like the fastest shit ever.
Or Saitama breaking Hero associations standards in physical test despite the fact that any physical power based hero A class above should easily be able to do the thing Saitama does in the test.
Or Vegeta not being able to lift to 1000 tons but Kid Goku can move a whole ass boulder.
So in my opinion 100 kmph is a writer oversight and the verse should not be capped in the presence of this many significant speed feats.
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Like I said best way I think so that we're not 100% ignoring the narrative rating is just
Superhuman (100kmh), possibly X rating (calcs based on the consistent much faster speed feats in the story)
Superhuman (100kmh), possibly X rating (calcs based on the consistent much faster speed feats in the story)
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LMFAO I just wanted to see what this gets but using ISL to go from a average 10cm Mantis shrimp to mister shrimps 1.5m height and seeing how that scales up his punch force and speed gets him to 506.25 Metric Tons of Force (which is actually less than the 700 Ton value the teacher gave) and a punch speed of 75000m/s (Massively Hypersonic) I'm like 9999999999999% sure we can't use the speed for this but its quite funny to see how much more faster the punch of a Mantis Shrimp would be if it were his height actually.
Lives up to being a throwing a baseball into orbit and much further past escape velocity like its said, when he takes the Serum tho he does punch fast enough to generate shockwaves
Lives up to being a throwing a baseball into orbit and much further past escape velocity like its said, when he takes the Serum tho he does punch fast enough to generate shockwaves
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Actually, I’ve already done the calculation, but it gave a result over 100 km/hr, so I decided to discard it.
Dandadan: Momo Reaction Serpod Dover Demon Nessie Speed
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Nah keep this cause it does fit with his punches being fast enough to generate shcokwaves and it fits with what we're going for trying to analyze all the speed featsActually, I’ve already done the calculation, but it gave a result over 100 km/hr, so I decided to discard it.
Dandadan: Momo Reaction Serpod Dover Demon Nessie Speed
I'll also say for calcs that require reactions only used average human reactions and they're already pretty decent subsonic altho there are two that are superhuman just barely below the 100kmh cap but really that's because im lowballing to the very minimum since its safe to say these guys should at least have athletic human reactions and in which the susbonic feats are higher and the superhuman ones are decent above 27m/s at 365ish m/s
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I realized too late that there was a new thread on this. Pretend I just posted what I posted there.
Long story short when have we ever cared about stated limits? Feats > statements is like the oldest statement in battleboarding
Long story short when have we ever cared about stated limits? Feats > statements is like the oldest statement in battleboarding
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Im doing all the speed calcs for the consistent speeds,
Sorry I've been taking a while to get it all done, been very busy
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No rush, fam. It’s not like I’m here often enough to care about timeframe anymore lol
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Using the word ‘oldest statement’ might not be entirely accurate. This statement was mentioned as recently as Chapter 94, and there’s nothing beyond that indicating that he could go faster. Okarun is trying to use TG’s full power, which is 100 km/h. I don’t think discussing whether a statement is outdated or not is relevant here; it’s not entirely correct. The statement still holds importance. Right now, it depends on how much emphasis we place on feats.
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He is talking about how old that saying is in Battleboarding. "Feats before statements."
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There is no new thread not yet, I've still gotta finish gathering speed feats
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Yes. Feats and statements both matter, it's a matter of juggling them to find what's most consistent and fair. Feats can be outliers, or inconsistent (Goku getting hurt by a bullet or Hierophant Green stopping a pissed off Plat are both outliers in diff ways), statements can be wrong too, or they can be extremely important, etc.
The 100kmh thing is actually super integral though to various scenes and isn't something that can just be ignored, it's not like a one off hand statement, it's essentially a plot point.
I'd be hard against just ignoring a major plotpoint for fancalcs, like none of these values are actually mentioned, calcs useful but not every calc is immediately obviously past 100kmh even if they are, which at that point we have to ask, are they intended to be that fast, or did the author just make a ***** and accidently inflate the feats?
Is what I would say but nah they ******* know, Okarun even calls out TG on her 100kmh shit being kinda lame and slow af for what he's supposed to be doing and he basically gets told to shut up.
The author is pretty evidently aware 100kmh ain't shit anymore and you're just not supposed to think about it.
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So far they actually all are
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You vastly overestimate a non powerscaling brainrotted mf's ability to comprehend basic feats.So far they actually all are
We've gone OVER this.
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Oh I wasn't disputing that, I was just affirming that as of right now this is actually the case. I agree that we shouldn't do away with the 100kmh but I also don't think we should ignore how consistent the actual feats are. Basically what I think we should do is this
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I mean, he was saying that 100km/h is slow to move along telephone wires, and that he can only exceed that (100km) because he is in an astral body. That's what I understood in the speech.
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Not really, at that point why even point out how 100kmh is super slow for telephone wires (relativistic), and then keep doubling down on it while getting told to shut up.
He explicitly focuses on the speed value being slow compared to what he's being asked to do.
If it was a matter of his body, they wouldn't have even mentioned the speed because it's a completel nonfactor, WHY would him being 100kmh or not change anything if he isn't sure if he can do it due to his physiology? He'd be saying stuff like how humans can't do it then get correctd this his ass is a ghost atm or something.
The worst part is, that isn't true, because he uses the telephone wires later again with his body against the Ker when he saves Momo, zipping like a bolt of lightning between telephone wires and blowing holes through the enemies (Which is actually a pretty notable feat, given he's capable of reacting to exit and jump back in and between them at a speed the story literally acknowledged as being way the hell beyond 100kmh and just don't think about it).
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We already determined that we're just in the calc every speed feat phase still
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I mean we already ssid 100kmh possibly x rating (calculated values) but otherwise yes its calc related
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This is some God Of War level scaling
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There are some things you didn't include here like him at least partially consistently creating some sort of shockwave when going full turbo (I've just gotten to the cursed house arc so take that with a grain of salt), With him having at least two instances of this happening, and even the 100 km/h stuff could most likely just be a title, considering most of the Yokai that we've seen up to this point have stayed consistent with their Yokai purposes (Acrobatic Silky and her motherly part, Evil Eye and his haunting part, Reiko with her whole beauty and mirror stuff.
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Ditto
Recent spoiler feat made the previous counter argument to this kinda…dead in the water.
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That latest feat where
Evil Eye kicked the shark to the moon
, right? I think it’s definitely a clear feat, and there’s no way it’s just 100 km/hr, it has to be much faster. But I’m not sure if it should be considered an anti-feat or not. Still, it’s so over-the-top that it’s obvious the author didn’t really care about making the characters’ speed logically consistent.
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Evil Eye kicks a shark to the moon
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