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Well here's the thing prior to Infinite speed it was MFTL+ with a value of "4.38 Quadrillion c", thanks to Pikkon's and Goku's feat
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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That's appeal to incredulity though.
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Mr. Popo's filler has pretty neat stuff when it comes to the martial arts side of Dragon Ball. Also, they're just very charming. Watching Kid Goku try to solve these problems and learn the foundations of Ki we take for granted is just so riveting.
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If someone is willing (I’m lazy and terrible at pixel calcs), they should calculate Super Shenron’s Mass and GBE. A python would possess universal level mass (over 10^53 kg) at just 100 light years long. Super Shenron appears to be well over 100 million light years long. A python would weigh over 10^71 kg when scaled proportionally. From multi galactic to universal lifting strength. The GBE (if any methods work at all) won’t reach 3A AP but would give a concrete 3B rating.
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i don't exactly get ur point, we're saying the same thing here
yeah but the manga scaling is different, broly was fodder by the time of the granola arc
paragus explicitly stated that ikari is just oozaru without shapeshifting
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Could you provide a scan?
Killerdrone123
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Well this would be fun
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To be canon or not to be that is the question.A Dragon ball Super we revision
Well hello everyone I am back with another crt the objective of this crt would be to prove why DBZ Kai is canon to DBS anime First let me lay some base for the argument in Dragon ball Super we can see them using flash backs from the anime for some scenes in super 1)In Dragon ball super...
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almost every time rage amps were mentioned it was explained
broly's rage is quite literally just his great ape power
how Gohan's rage is him accessing his dormant power
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I bet we get a continuing of GT first-
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Get ready for…GT Kai!
Really, jokes aside, I’d love a modern re-animation of GT’s events. Stuff kinda sucks to watch visually after rewatching some of the best fights Z has to offer. Like I can’t look at SSJ4 Goku V Omega Shenron and take it seriously when Goku V Majin Vegeta exists.
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Dragon Ball GT contains 3 infinite universes and all cosmology takes 2-C infinitely superior to a normal 2-C, then Cabba being sized for 2 GoD Wouldn't it be inferior to DBGT's 2-C which contains 3 infinite Universes?
Remembering that Toei cosmology has 3 infinite Universes and canon cosmology only has 2 normal Universes ( which would make 4 universes with the battle between Beerus and his brother)
Here half of Brazil hates DBGT and thinks it's just multi-galaxy
Remembering that Toei cosmology has 3 infinite Universes and canon cosmology only has 2 normal Universes ( which would make 4 universes with the battle between Beerus and his brother)
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I find everyone scaling to SSG power more Ridiculous the 2 bases thing made much more sense- point is super has something just as ridiculous, so why is this notable?
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Infinite size in 3-D doesn't matter once we include space-times. Beerus and Champa get 4 space-times while GT just gets 3.
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Base Cabba might become stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta
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DBS Anime gets 2-C in Buu saga is a big one. It's like a bargain sale version of Toei-scaling being added.
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Bruh
but like DBZ and DBZ Kai are the same thing just a better dialogue
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Accuracy.
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Kai is missing quite a few scenes from DBZ since it was made to be more Manga accurate. A lot of filler and stuff. It'll be weaker as a result, but still better.
I forget if Infinite speed is in Kai or if Infinite universe is in. But I ain't that invested in this.
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In my opinion the bigger and more noteworthy thing is that the title screens of the Macrocosm (the universe as shown within Kai) means that Super's fuckup no longer matters and we can go back to the cosmology as Toriyama intended and stop pretending that the "source material" cannot be wrong. U7 Being a giant weirdo sphere is much better than an ordinary inconsistent with all known lore regular universe.
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ALSO, whose teleport did Goku predict within Toei? The claim is here with a broken link and the only person I can think of is S.Janemba, but I want to be sure
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Even if the living world wasn't a sphere it's definitely in a sphere
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is there something useful in the video or it's just a meme
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I don't think you'd even need Majin's feat to scale GT to low-multiversal.
We have Janemba's feat of distorting all afterlife and affecting the living Universe, we have Gogeta's feat when he transforms creates a Big Bang in the other world and was shaking the entire other world, we have Lord Ludo's quote that could destroy the entire Universe, in addition to Android 17 joining the Universe with another world.
We are literally served with so much done for Toei to be low-multiversal, not counting the feat of Omega Sheron that was going to destroy the Universe and was even affecting the Kaioshin realm.
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I doubt this is valid, because the context is conquest and his energy draining of others to empower him. Further, Luud himself is merely a facade used to empower Baby, (which the person who said this knew) who was going to conquer the universe via his parasitic nature, which we know from Trunks was being planned to use by the Machine Mutants to conquer the universe from the very beginning.
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Well... So i guess this one doesn't count then? I remember Baby also mentioning that he can parasitize something like that infinitely, you're right about that.
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All we know is his birth created a "Big Bang Level" explosion. So it has the force of the universe being created behind it, whatever that's supposed to mean.
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Ohh well that's too bad, still impressive, but he's not literally creating one, otherwise I could've had an idea on a speed upgrade of sorts.
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My God, how I love super's retcon, literally we have genkidama being gathered from the entire universe and the other world just to defeat Kid Buu, further on we have an incredible potential in the part of the evil Buu who absorbed the powers of Dai Kaioshin who could defeat Moro at that time, Dai Kaioshin was able to fight against Moro who had absorbed the powers of Vegeta and Goku in Blue form (note that Dai Kaioshin was only a little of his power), Goku needed energy and Vegeta gathered all the powers near them and none could make Goku restore all powers, soon after appears Uub who had the energy of the Dai Kaioshin complete and fills all of Goku's ki, Goku soles Moro, Saga Buu who was nothing more than solar system buster filled all of Goku's powers in the superior instinct 
Goku dressed as a turtle
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Gogeta is shown creating a Big Bang
Gogeta's Ki is shown appearing in the Living Universe
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I guess that's how it's accepted in the profile hmmmmm
"As a Super Saiyan, Gogeta effortlessly destroyed Janemba, who is superior to Hirudegarn. Gogeta's birth in Other World caused a Big Bang that could be felt in the Living World"
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Yep, that's why it's a beautiful feat and look, Gogeta was in hell which is an isolated part of the other world
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Do we accept it as a 3-A physical big bang or one that created a space-time? I'm looking at the crt that it was accepted in and I'm not sure on the answer?
DBZ Fusion Reborn - Description Addition
Alright, so, given that Buu saga God tiers (thus also GT characters as a side effect) became 2-C after Buuhan's upgrade, I'll throw my piece about some of the feats they have. Janemba So, we know that Janemba has completely distorted the Afterlife, and I believe that it is a Low 2-C for the...
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