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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

Antvasima said:
Okay, so should we apply any punishments here, and if so, to which members, and to what extent? 🙏
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Meiou_Hades is already permanently banned. It may be worth noting this incident for the Tracker still, to be referenced should they ever appeal.

The other user in the Discord guilty enough for punishment is unknown to me here on VSBW. I would ask @LuffyRuffy46307 their username- the individual who encouraged framing Damage, to be specific.
 
Mr. Bambu said:
I don't actually know who you are, only the company you keep. That said, I don't take you as being in violation of our rules or anything in that vein, anyways. So, I dunno. Be disappointed if that's your course.
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I was making moreso of a general statement. That said I'm also stressed as hell in this period due to exams so,I probably wouldn't have made such a statement in other occasions. I know some staff here is in servers where I'm in .

I just took the whole accusation thing personally and reacted driven by emotions, since I don't like people who accuse me of stuff I didn't do. it's probably one of the things that ticks me off the most. Perhaps next time I'll try to act more rationally.

That said, since my case's been settled,as far as I can see, I'll take my leave. I won't clog the thread further. Thank you for your time and pardon my little outburst from earlier.
 
Mr. Bambu said:
Meiou_Hades is already permanently banned. It may be worth noting this incident for the Tracker still, to be referenced should they ever appeal.

The other user in the Discord guilty enough for punishment is unknown to me here on VSBW. I would ask @LuffyRuffy46307 their username- the individual who encouraged framing Damage, to be specific.
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Okay. That seems fine to me then. 🙏
 
Damage3245 said:
@Gamin_Yoon23 @LuffyRuffy46307 @Ottavio_Merluzzo Would either of you happen to know who the "Monkey Force" individual is that threatened to dox me?
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I believe that might be @AizenBankai09 . With that said, that's the only comment he's ever made about such a thing. It happened only once and no one has ever encouraged him to perform such an action. Additionally, he himself never even tried,implied or commented about being serious in doing so. His comment,in fact, got ignored by most of us, because such a thought has never even actually crossed our minds.

With all that said, I must say I agree that it's really uncalled for, regardless of the context.
 
Ah, you're right, thanks. That is the user.

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Hey everyone,

I want to sincerely apologize for what I said in the dc chat. I understand that my comment about "doxxing" was completely inappropriate, and I deeply regret saying it. I was caught up in the moment, and I didn't think about the seriousness of my words. I want to make it clear that I had no intention of actually doing so infact I actually can't , and I realize now that even joking about it is not okay.

I’m sorry for causing any stress or concern, and I take full responsibility for my actions. I understand that my words could have serious consequences, and I never meant to hurt anyone or make anyone feel unsafe. I’ve learned from this experience and will be more mindful of what I say in the future.

If there's anything I can do to make things right, please let me know. Again, I'm really sorry for what happened 🙏.
 
Damage3245 said:
Really? It's working for me. Here's an alternative.
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You're right to bring it up, I'd forgotten about that. As the user has apologized, I defer to you, Damage, whether it should be pursued for punishment, because those types of comments really are entirely disgusting to make. It isn't possible to take it as just a joke, either.

If you decide the apology seems genuine, then I would suggest a warning. If otherwise, a ban is justified of some duration- not permanent, but something to the tune of month(s), I reckon.
 
As the user has made a genuine apology I would be in favor of no more than a 1 month ban, if other staff think that is an acceptable level of punishment.

As you said, I don't think it could be just taken as just a joke, and I don't think there should be no consequence at all.
 
I've put the ban through for now, given three staff members agreeing on the matter. There still remains the identification of the individual named "karbonat_erol88", if they have an account at all. Other than that, I believe bans are accounted for. If we were to give out warnings and somesuch for other specific individuals, I would be open to the idea but don't currently see reason to do so for anyone in particular.
 
Thank you for the information. Strange behavior from someone not on the wiki, but it is what it is. I'll update the Warning Tracker with the current agreements and that should be about it, then.

Edit: Meiou's previous issues (sockpuppeting, disruptive behavior) were not accounted for on the tracker, either. I have updated the Tracker to appropriately display this information.
 
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The Presence

The Presence is the representation of the Judeo-Christian God in the DC Multiverse and the father of both Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos. Although his power is virtually unparalleled, he rarely interferes in the affairs of mortals directly, instead acting through agents and aspects of...
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Theglassman12 said:
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The Presence

The Presence is the representation of the Judeo-Christian God in the DC Multiverse and the father of both Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos. Although his power is virtually unparalleled, he rarely interferes in the affairs of mortals directly, instead acting through agents and aspects of...
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Apparently it's because he scales to that character
 
Theglassman12 said:
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The Presence

The Presence is the representation of the Judeo-Christian God in the DC Multiverse and the father of both Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos. Although his power is virtually unparalleled, he rarely interferes in the affairs of mortals directly, instead acting through agents and aspects of...
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DC/Crisis Cosmology Revision

Hello! Following this thread and with the new tiering system of @Ultima_Reality, it is now time to revise our current tiers for the DC Comics Cosmology. Since, from what i understood, there are threads about revising the DeMatteis and the Vertigo cosmologies that are still ongoing, this thread...
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Reporting @Fallen_Angelicx

First of all he was really toxic in Sans vs Ryuunosuke and VTR. Saying things like "womp womp" accusing others of being biased, coping and lying and etc.
For a little context, Fallen believes Ryuu is able to use his Precognition to ensure his attacks hit. Basically a form of fate/causality manipulation
Yet since this was not on the profile everyone rejected this idea so he created a content revision, which is respectable. Expect it was rejected by @Theglassman12
And @ActuallySpaceMan42
So what did Fallen do? Of course added it to the profile and then started to act like they accepted fate and causality manipulation to remove the Sans match. Seemingly warping the votes and words of both of those staff members, since they very clearly state that it is not fate or causality manipulation.

Both @ActuallySpaceMan42 and @Theglassman12 should probably be called to clarify their votes, even though I think it was clear they disagreed with the way Fallen was presenting it like. Of course maybe I am wrong so they should probably be callled I guess

Whats worse is before this he also removed a notable weakness that was being debated in the thread. Which I think @Comiphorous reported, but I cannot find it right now.
 
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ShionAH said:
So what did Fallen do? Of course added it to the profile and then started to act like they accepted fate and causality manipulation to remove the Sans match.
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@Theglassman12 & @ActuallySpaceMan42 agreed that everything was just Precognition.
Any form of Clairvoyance that involves seeing the future is precognition. Anyway, everything you said still falls under precognition. It may be slightly unconventional, but it is precognition all the same.

There are no limits on what precognition can do in fiction, or on the wiki. It can work anyway the Author wants it to, but as long as it involves seeing into the future, it's still precognition.
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These are @ActuallySpaceMan42 words. You ignored this in the Match Removal Thread. It's not manipulating causality or fate, it's just looking into the future and attacking your opponent from there. Fate Hax was rejected yes, Unconventional Precognition was chosen instead and u purposefully left that out to make me look bad. Everything falls under Precognition and thats period and you choose to be in denial of that;
You are blatantly lying.

"Ryuunosuke's wincon is one shotting Sans by attacking Sans in the future making it undodgeable as the match begins"
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(His words from another thread btw) Isn't this denial in your own tone? What you mentioned is simply what I proposed and you disagree. You commented on my crt and You put yourself down as disagreeing with everything I mentioned which validates my point. What you think is NOT more valid than what Mods agree with, you're not a god nor are your takes relevant enough compared to theirs when doing crts.

ShionAH said:
Whats worse is before this he also removed a notable weakness that was being debated in the thread. Which I think @Comiphorous reported, but I cannot find it right now.
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@DaReaperMan already resolved this issue in a report made in the past which i wasn't entirely guilty for. I was instructed to make a crt on anything I made in the future even if its justified (which it was) or a small addition.

I'll get to the slanders and accusations about about me lying to the oppositions or me being biased later on but they're far from the truth and completely one sided. I don't entertain dishonesty Shion 😒
 
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Fallen_Angelicx said:
(His words from another thread btw) Isn't this denial in your own tone? What you mentioned is simply what I proposed and you disagree. You commented on my crt and You put yourself down as disagreeing with everything I mentioned which validates my point.
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I guess I cannot disagree with CRTs anymore. Good to know
 
ShionAH said:
I guess I cannot disagree with CRTs anymore. Good to know
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I never said you can't. Mod Votes are simply more valid than any normal person's, and thats the fact everyone on this wiki has abided by and knows. Do you think your disagreement should change the course of a crt? Make a crt on giving yourself thread mod roles and permissions. I'll revoke your accusations later when I'm not busy.
 
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These post will be my refution/reasoning to Shion's accusations relating to the following; Alleged Bias towards the character I stood for, Toxicity to my opposition on San's side, Lying to my oppositions etc.

Before I begin, I want to sincerely apologize if I had deeply offended anyone beyond what I might believe as I don't think I'm the ultimate axiomatic all knowing entity and what might've been "just a statement" for me might've been disrespectful to others. I'm human just as anyone else on the planet and I don't personally know anyone here since we're all wiki buddies nor do I know when others take major offense as everyone's different in their own right.

Part 1: Bias My Opps Showed
As we know, Bias is showing condescending favourness to something without regarding what others might think on the subject.... In the Sans Vs Ryuunosuke debate, my opponents were showing loads of bias to Sans, ignoring what I said regarding my own character which I pointed out numerous times in the debate. Explanations for why;

* Unironically on the topic of bias in the thread, @ShionAH is one of the main perpetrators in the thread who was biased as he was in the thread. He wanted his character to win so bad that he's willing to ignore profile details and the supporter (me) who knows about the opposing verse just so he can get a wincon across. Context & Proof;
Entitled this;
Weaknesses: Shinpei's usage of Haine's Right Eye is limited. If he dies enough times, he will eventually reach a present that he has not rendered yet and thus will experience true death. Shinpei's nature will stop him from wanting to kill others unless he's bloodlusted which is shown when Shide killed Ushio "|" Same as before. Whenever Ryuunosuke fights at levels beyond what's humanly possible, Shinpei's body becomes torn up and injured.
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Bolded point is the weakness they're referring to. Quotations around the | separate the keys which is pretty common across the wiki especially for outdated pages or pages with old edits.... Madara Uchiha's page out of the many has this for example. This means that it ain't strange to have separations and I'm sure Shion has 1000+ wiki edits to know this.

Obviously I responded;
They don't. It says shinpei for a reason. They're two different people but they fight within the same body, it should be removed cuz I didn't put that. + Ive already explained that ryuunosuke is willing to kill those he perceives as enemies
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They're separate keys meaning what applies to Shinpei as a trait wouldn't apply to Ryuunosuke especially for weakness since they're different people. They have Multiple Selves as cherry on top.
Ofc, Shion Ignored this statement. He went on for the rest of the thread quoting and reusing the weakness repeatedly in the thread despite me quoting him repeatedly to correct him and yet he has not responded to me to this day. I've even pointed this out in the thread as Bias yet nobody cares and sends hate towards me. He simply doesn't care even if he's wrong, he'll keep repeating the same things for clarification just so he can win which is a clear situation of bias and ignorance.

* The whole thread had a similar effect. Numerous arguments of mine which were my debunks to their arguments were just ignored or passed off as me "reaching" without explaining why despite me asking "how?", nobody responds [[Reminder I was the only one on Ryuunosuke's side in the thread which means there would be no benefactor to my side, it's me against 7+ other people]] yet the active people in the thread just ignored everything and kept FRA training. @Catbowtie however was the only one who was actively doing anything to respond which I applaud. Bias is shown in the thread due to the San's side ignored and showed sheer ignorance and how those in the thread deliberately misunderstand, assume and ignore the abilities and traits of my characters to validate wincons. One guy deadass said It's pathetic in my opinion. This debate wasn't Me vs San's supporters, It was me vs @Catbowtie respectfully. In the same thread I wrote numerous claims (This is one) as to why my opponents were being biased so I find it hilarious that Shion thinks I'm making baseless claims

Adding everything will result in an extremely long post so I'll split it into parts.
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
Entitled this;

Bolded point is the weakness they're referring to. Quotations around the | separate the keys which is pretty common across the wiki especially for outdated pages or pages with old edits.... Madara Uchiha's page out of the many has this for example. This means that it ain't strange to have separations and I'm sure Shion has 1000+ wiki edits to know this.
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The second key says "same as before," implying he has the same weaknesses as his first key
 
Part 2: Toxic Fallen
Now for this point..... To be completely honest, Reviewing the thread I won't lie, I was a bit heated from frustration so I apologize. @Catbowtie made a good point near the ending on the thread on my behavior so I apologize for being toxic since I myself can see so and admit it. I'm a human of the 21st century, I know when to admit when I'm wrong 😁.

Note: I wanna state that I didn't have toxic relations to anyone in the thread other than @ShionAH himself. Any argument I've responded to the others even the passerbys voting were simply vote counts. Those I've argued with sometimes had satire in them like this one. I've acknowledged what Sans side had to say and I responded to each and everyone of them to the best of my abilities, I even acknowledged a vote from someone who just agreed with someone else's reasoning despite me asking their personal view. Shion is reaching heavily and overestimating what I've done.

The Toxicness on my end started due to @ShionAH being very dishonest while ignoring the things I have posted which is reasonably frustrating. Imagine making a debunk to your opponent's argument but your opponent keeps purposefully repeating the stuff you argued against without even responding to what u said.... At that point Shion was just flooding the pages with misinformation which part 1 addressed. Absolute Diabolical.

Again I acknowledge that I'm wrong for insulting @ShionAH. I clapped back at ShionAH after he decided to call me "childish" while deliberately ignoring what I said in this post (which wasn't meant to be offensive on my end but an eye-opener for ShionAH to stop the ignorance). Btw he literally confirms that he's ignoring everything I said for being childish which is a rule break in it's own when it comes to Participating in matches & which stretches back to the start of the debate when he dropped by just to be post misinformation..... I find this as crazy work because I did NOT attack him in anyway atp.

@ShionAH boldy claims that I have been toxic. But what about the point where you literally called me Schizophrenic out of nowhere???? I find it hilarious how you're claiming toxicity while doing the most toxic action in that debate.... You're out here diagnosing a person who you don't know with a known mental disorder in a forum that forbids toxic name calling. MODS I THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AS A REPORT SINCE WE'RE ON THAT TOPIC
 
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CloverDragon03 said:
The second key says "same as before," implying he has the same weaknesses as his first key
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It says that as a way to say they're fighting in the same body. Shinpei has his weakness and Ryuunosuke has his. It's split into keys and they're different people but they're under the same body. It was removed recently anyway upon me speaking with mods about it. It isn't supposed to incline with them both having the same weakness
 
I don't even need to write part 3. I don't see who I lied to. Everything I stated was/is on the profile.

Precognition, His Future Attacking stuff was there, His 2-A abilities, Stat Amps etc. His other points relating to the crt and fate hax stuff were addressed in the thread and are obviously incorrect since Fate hax wasn't accepted. Additional Precognition was accepted which Shion himself and the mods agreed to which I find ironic.
 
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