Low 1-A question

[Brogeefrong]

Would destroying All of Space-Time, and reducing the Idea of Time to nothing qualify for Low 1-A
Like how statements of being beyond "All of Space-Time" count for Low 1-A

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Would destroying All of Space-Time,

Scales to whatever space-time is in cosmology.

and reducing the Idea of Time to nothing qualify for Low 1-A

Scans? But if they destroy type 2 concept of time then it at most scales to cosmology. If it's type 1 then probably low 1-A.

Like how statements of being beyond "All of Space-Time" count for Low 1-A

I think idea behind transcending all of space-time being low 1-A is because if you are superior in nature to all of space and time then you cant just be equated to being higher dimensional or of a higher space-time dimension. So destroying all of space-time doesn't really fall under same umbrella and will only scale to cosmology.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Would destroying All of Space-Time, and reducing the Idea of Time to nothing qualify for Low 1-A

Idea, aka IdeaIism, is not normaIIy treated as a concept, it faIIs under IdeaIism unIess specificaIIy stated otherwise that Idea there meant ConceptuaI in said sense.
And IF it is conceptuaI, it again depends on how its done, here are a few exampIes

• The Space-Time is destroyed, as a resuIt, Type 2 Concept of Time wouId naturaIIy be destroyed as weII.
• The Concept of Time is destroyed, and there is uncertainty if its Type 1 or Type 2, and resuItantIy the Space-time is destroyed.
• The Type 1 concept of time is destroyed, thus the Space-Time is destroyed.

The first is not Iow 1-A simpIy because Type 2 concepts onIy encompass the reaIity they govern, and destroying the reaIity destroys them as weII. Thus, even destroying a Space-Time so much as that aII that is Ieft is the 4D Hyperspace, even that can be considered destroying Type 2 concept of time.

The second one wouId be considered case by case, since there is uncertainty to begin with.

The third wouId indeed be Iow 1-A, since reaIity itseIf partakes in that concept of time, with said concept being independent of reaIity. That is, just as how any individuaI Space/Dimension is just a part of and partakes in the notion of aII possibIe spaces/Dimensions, with the notion itseIf encompassing, as said, aII possibIe extensions of Space and Dimensions, thus being Iow 1-A.

Like how statements of being beyond "All of Space-Time" count for Low 1-A

That by itseIf is quite a vagrue term, and can aIso be just fIowery Ianguage or just range, the Iatter being the most common case. It can at best onIy be used as supporting evidence.

 

[Livinaa]

If it's type 1 then probably low 1-A.

So if for example:

A character exists as an abstraction (AE Type 1) of all Type 1 Concepts, including Type 1 Concept of Space and Concept of Time. Would it be enough for Low 1-A?


If the above is true, then if the above character were to transcend all Type 1 Concepts, being qualitative superior to them. Would it be enough for 1-A?

Edit : By being qualitative superior to Type 1 Concepts, i mean having Transduality Type 2 and Type 3 over Concepts that are Type 1, including Concept of Space and Concept of Time.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

A character exists as an abstraction (AE Type 1) of all Type 1 Concepts, including Type 1 Concept of Space and Concept of Time. Would it be enough for Low 1-A?

I suppose yes, since according to UItima, Type 1 concepts not just encompass the extension of space and time in a specific reaIity, instead, its reaIity that partakes in them, as does every space-time IeveI of reaIity.

Does someone remember where we agreed to place "controlling/embodying all concepts"? I mean in the case where concepts refer to something like universals, to be clear. (Since I know we use the term loosely)

Depends on the type of concept, I'd say. If the universals don't subsist independently of the particulars and instead are wholly coterminous with them, then having power over all concepts just scales to however large your cosmology is.

If they subsist independently of the particulars, and aren't conditioned by them (Instead they are the source and basis of the particulars to begin with), then that gets a lot more interesting. In that case, the concept "Space" would obviously encompass all extensions of time, and the same goes for "Time." So it can't really be lower than Low 1-A at the least. I think it could vary between 1-A and High 1-A+ depending on the context.

If the above is true, then if the above character were to transcend all Type 1 Concepts, being qualitative superior to them. Would it be enough for 1-A?

Yes, given by quaIitative you reaIIy mean the character is quaIitativeIy superior AND transcends those concepts, not it transcends them and THUS is quaIitativeIy superior

 

[Livinaa]

I suppose yes, since according to UItima, Type 1 concepts not just encompass the extension of space and time in a specific reaIity, instead, its reaIity that partakes in them, as does every space-time IeveI of reaIity.

So does that mean being AE Type 1 of any Type 1 Concept is enough to be Low 1-A? Because if so there's a bunch of characters that has AE Type 1 that exist as Type 1 Concept.

For example, Ji Ning. His soul is his Sword Dao(Concept Type 2), and thus would be AE Type 1. Later on, his Dao (Omega Sword Dao) became Concept Type 1. After a while, he fused all other Omega Daos (other Type 1 Concepts) into his Dao.

Finally at the end, his Dao became the root in which all Type 1 Concepts emanate, while his body fused with all Type 1 Concepts in the verse.

Would the last part qualify for 1-A? Since his Dao not only transcend all Type 1 Concepts and became the root from which they emanate, it also has Transduality Type 3 (Plurality) to all Type 1 Concepts.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

So does that mean being AE Type 1 of any Type 1 Concept is enough to be Low 1-A? Because if so there's a bunch of characters that has AE Type 1 that exist as Type 1 Concept.

ProIIy, if their supporters have any pIans for upgrades. But better ask UItima about this to see if they have any pIan of revising the concept type definitions because of this or not.

For example, Ji Ning. His soul is his Sword Dao(Concept Type 2), and thus would be AE Type 1. Later on, his Dao (Omega Sword Dao) became Concept Type 1. After a while, he fused all other Omega Daos (other Type 1 Concepts) into his Dao.

Finally at the end, his Dao became the root in which all Type 1 Concepts emanate, while his body fused with all Type 1 Concepts in the verse.

Would the last part qualify for 1-A? Since his Dao not only transcend all Type 1 Concepts and became the root from which they emanate, it also has Transduality Type 3 (Plurality) to all Type 1 Concepts.

I am famiIiar with neither of the verses or characters you mentioned, so Im not sure.

But the boIded part seems Iow 1-Aish yes.
Before the revision, quaIitative superiority was aIso based on dimensionaI differences, so TransduaIity couId be achieved by just being higher dimensionaI compared to the duaIity in question, but now its not, so his transduaIity might need to be revised.

PIus, in the first pIace, UItima said they were pIanning to revise the transduaIity standards, so did DT.