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Wonderweiss was scary as hell. He easily could run hands with any Espada
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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I think he should've lived tbh. Imagine being a Quincy, you're invading Soul Society, and a portal opens to some Spanish guy with blue hair and a sword, and he just goes "sic 'em boy!' and a blonde kid just eats your organs.
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Should be at least upto number 3
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I'd argue he'd give Starrk trouble if he could run hands with Yamamoto. AP wise he's the strongest out of the Espada. His hax are kinda trash tho, all he has is absorption for a very specific move
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But stark was clearly above shunsui in terms of strength. I don't see ww around there. Yamamoto was not impressed either.
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He was still banged up by him. Sure he couldn't kill him, but he did hurt Yamamoto.
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Number 3 espadas would hurt him harder in such sealed state.
Number 3 espadas seems to rival high tier captains in terms of strengths but lack behind in combat prowess and hax
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I wouldn't call Barragan's hax lacking....
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He is not number 3.
Shinigamis are in general ahead of every other race in terms of combat prowess and hax
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You said number 3 Espadas, as in plural, so I thought you were talking about the top 3, not just Harribel
Combat prowess I agree with, only a few people outside of them are as skilled as them. Hax is a close one between them and Quincies.
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I would be very hurt if Ichigo won. Ichigo negs that FODDER!
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Isn't his thing that he could seal any weapons special powers while fighting or something? And also grow like 100 arms or some shit?
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The fight would never get this far. It would begin and Ichigo would spend the rest of the day looking for Naruto not realizing he soul crushed him on accident an hour ago.
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People's ass takes. Ichigo solos Nard and his verse
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Nah, Reiatsu Crush isn't nearly as strong as people say it is.
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Cope.
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You get out of it what you put into it. If you know the arguments, it's absurdly strong.
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You wanna know why we never have Bleach cross-verse matches with Shinigami? Because Reiatsu Crush is really that strong. To survive it you need more than Soul Manip resistance, you also need to resist the other effects like fear manip, paralysis inducement, and with Zaraki, madness manip and illusion creation. Oh, and also you need to have a high enough durability to survive the AP part. Naruto would passively wither away from Ichigo's passive 3-C force that's also attacking his soul.
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Didn't Tatsuki literally survive Yammy Largo's Reiatsu Crush?
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That aside, he's faster, stronger, and (imo) more skilled than him (not stompable but pretty significant) and he has analytical prediction without even needing hax and can see through his mind and read his emotions to predict how he fights. In short: Ichigo claps Naruto neg diff.
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She has basic soul resistances because of her having a Bleach soul. Also, she can see shinigami. Btw, where are the scans?
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It was going to kill her if she'd been exposed for longer, but yeah, she did survive for a short period. At that point she'd already resisted Gonzui though, which outright killed the normal humans around her. Tatsuki's not strong or anything, but she's got much more spiritual energy than a regular person.
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Tatsuki is just built different. Btw, why don't we have a profile for her?
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Probably because she doesn't really fight anyone or give anyone scaling, same reason why Ichigo doesn't have a human key, I'd assume. It's possible she could get one later though since she is kind of important for hax layers.
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I guess. But her hand to hand combat feats are fairly impressive and Ichigo scales above her in that too, so having her profile would be significant for upgrading Ichigo's h2h
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You don't need a profile for Tatsuki to use her for scaling, it just makes scaling justifications related to her less cluttered. Like, you could have h2h justifications for why Ichigo scales to Tatsuki, and then you could either scale Tatsuki right there in the justification or you could just link to her profile with all of her scaling instead.
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Well, I already have the references in my sandbox for my massive Ichigo overhaul. But now I'm just thinking on what Ichigo's ranking would be. I have him currently as an Expert at h2h because he scales above Tatsuki who won runner up at the nationals with a broken arm and could've won if her arm wasn't broken, also having trained Orihime enough to become a 1st Dan. And of course the lieutenant feat too
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So, what I'm hearing is that the Arrancars are lucky no one trained her.
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If she actually scaled to them, yes. Give her someone like Grimmjow as her teacher or a Hakuda master and she'd kick major ass.
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In general not really.
If we are taking top dogs from both sides shinigamis are still ahead. Bankai like kuruyashiki, azashiro, urahara, hisagi, adult toshiro and bankai of squad zero would overwhelm quincy top dogs.
Yhwach is the only anomally. Shinigami also has 2 hogyoku holders technically.
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Harribel, nel, current grimjow who can rival number 3 possision.
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Final BTW profile is here.
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I rest my case 
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Cinderella (シンデレラ, Shinderera?), also known as Elly, is one of the seven Märchens of Reverse London. Macy Baljure discovered her and adopted her as a pet, giving her the nickname Elly. Tier: At least High 8-C Name: Cinderella Origin: Burn the Witch Gender: Female Age: Unknown Classification...
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You have done well.Final BTW profile is here.
I rest my caseCinderella (Burn the Witch)
Cinderella (シンデレラ, Shinderera?), also known as Elly, is one of the seven Märchens of Reverse London. Macy Baljure discovered her and adopted her as a pet, giving her the nickname Elly. Tier: At least High 8-C Name: Cinderella Origin: Burn the Witch Gender: Female Age: Unknown Classification...
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I meant they're lucky no one went "hey, here's how to use Reiatsu, now let's teach you how to whoop ass."
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