Ben 10 vs Green Lantern REMATCH (4-8-1)

[Robo432343]

Ben Tennyson (Original)

Once an ordinary 10-year-old, Benjamin Kirby "Ben" Tennyson discovered a strange-looking "watch" after it crashed in front of him during a vacation with his grandpa and cousin. The Omnitrix allowed him to transform into 10 different aliens, which he used to become the superhero known as Ben 10...

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Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)

Hal Jordan is a member, and occasionally the leader, of the intergalactic police force called the Green Lantern Corps. He fights evil across the Universe with a ring that grants him a variety of superpowers. Tier: 2-C | Varies, up to 3-C, 2-C at his peak | Varies, up to 3-C, 2-C at his peak |...

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Both start at base
Alien X restricted
SBA otherwise
Speed Equal

Ben: @Reiner04 @Gendolfgg1 @zaraus @E6pire

Hal: @Emirp sumitpo @Maverick_Zero_X @DemonicDude @Hiiilt @Accelerated_Evolution @Fezzih_007 @Javenplayz253 @NotoriouSoda

 

[Oiguana2701]

Following (waiting until this becomes a battlefield)

 

[Hypertornado099]

Why would Ben not die to a single attack

 

[Omegabronic]

Why would Ben not die to a single attack

omitrix failsafe would transform him into an alien that can survive

altho since Ben has Alien X here and this is Omniverse ben per SBA, when he turns alien X he just blitz and stomps Hal.......should prob restric X else it is a stomp

 

[Reiner04]

Yeah no matter how Ben starts, 3-A or L2-C AP will trigger failsafe.

Ben FRA.

 

[Reiner04]

First move doesn't matter since failsafe- Ben gonna realise hal strength in first move and then try his hax related bozos. Prisky dust would be his 3rf option.

So Ben again.

 

[Robo432343]

no bro green lantern will get scissors and cut ben's arms

Ben fra

 

[DemonicDude]

Also this time please update VOTES in the thread. most threads i've seen when an argument is reached the votes are not counted.

 

[Robo432343]

Also this time please update VOTES in the thread. most threads i've seen when an argument is reached the votes are not counted.

No.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Ben gonna realise hal strength

How does he realize Hal's strength? Nothing on the profile suggests he could sense power levels. And what's stopping Hal from one shotting or incapacitating Ben with giant chains before Ben even does anything.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

the fail safe would transform ben into an alien that survives from getting 1 shotted

Why would Hal need to kill Ben to win? Lethal force isn't an option Hal goes with initially, especially against someone like Ben, and he could always just knock Ben out unconcious with a punching glove after he's shackled Ben.

Via SBA, incap is a valid wincon.

 

[Reiner04]

How does he realize Hal's strength? Nothing on the profile suggests he could sense power levels. And what's stopping Hal from one shotting or incapacitating Ben with giant chains before Ben even does anything.

Ben fought psyphon with humungausaur, got overpowered and then realised he can't overpower him and used hax based aliens. Very activation of failsafe is enough.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Ben fought psyphon with humungausaur, got overpowered and then realised he can't overpower him and used hax based aliens. Very activation of failsafe is enough.

Again, Hal often starts with chains as a means to incapacitate opponents. And Ben would not get a chance to change aliens when he's being trapped with Hal's superior AP and LS.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I'm voting Hal via incap if it wasn't obvious

 

[Reiner04]

Again, Hal often starts with chains as a means to incapacitate opponents. And Ben would not get a chance to change aliens when he's being trapped with Hal's superior AP and LS.

Master control.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Master control.

And Hal could still just just knock Ben out before he even changes.

 

[Reiner04]

And Hal could still just just knock Ben out before he even changes.

Speed equalised + Master control is thought based.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Speed equalised + Master control is thought based.

You stated Ben only switches to his more hax based aliens when he realizes his physical ones won't work. Hal could knock out Ben before could change.

 

[Robo432343]

Speed equalised + Master control is thought based.

Ben has to process the fact that he just got chained up

Hal is is knocking him out before that time

 

[Reiner04]

Also Hal will hold back as he don't know Ben's strength yeah? Especially when Ben is human he wouldn't know how much force is needed. Especially when this human teenager is 5-C.

You stated Ben only switches to his more hax based aliens when he realizes his physical ones won't work. Hal could knock out Ben before could change.

Ben has always been using hax based aliens mostly to get out restrain such as ghostfreak or Bigchill.

 

[Reiner04]

Ben has to process the fact that he just got chained up

???

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Also Hal will hold back as he don't know Ben's strength yeah? Especially when Ben is human he wouldn't know how much force is needed. Especially when this human teenager is 5-C.

The ring can scan and see others so he'd likely know Ben's power

Ben has always been using hax based aliens mostly to get out restrain such as ghostfreak or Bigchill.

Hal already has non physical interaction

 

[Reiner04]

The ring can scan and see others so he'd likely know Ben's power

Passive?

Hal already has non physical interaction

Bigchill and ghost freak cannot be harmed or touched by mana which has Npi too due to being able to physically interact with spacetime and all.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Passive?

Hal does it with opponents he's not familiar with. He'd likely do with Ben when he sees Ben's watch.

 

[Reiner04]

Hal does it with opponents he's not familiar with. He'd likely do with Ben when he sees Ben's watch.

What's so unfamiliarity about a teenager? An interdimensional threat?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

What's so unfamiliarity about a teenager? An interdimensional threat?

Said teenager has a suspicious watch he doesn't know about or what it could do.

 

[Reiner04]

Said teenager has a suspicious watch he doesn't know about or what it could do.

Why a teenager having a watch is an issue.

 

[Reiner04]

I'd say incon at best, depending on their first moves i can't guess about.

 

[Reiner04]

There are many aspects this match can unfold;

• Hax restrain ben or ben transform first. Both things is a first move of both guys.
• Which Alien Ben will choose is highly difficult to guess. Any combatt based or it can even be goop or Bigchill
• Ben realising Hal strength regardless he transforms or not. Or even if transform even then it's just all over match due to mastercontrol or he gets unconscious first.
• Both has got the wincons. But this match is just all over the place to guess an outcome.

 

[DemonicDude]

Said teenager has a suspicious watch he doesn't know about or what it could do.

HAL FRA

 

[Gendolfgg1]

Feedback solo?

 

[Robo432343]

incon fra

 

[Reiner04]

Feedback solo?

One of many options but again, Hal wouldn't be standing waiting for him to absorb his powers. Although, amount of wincons barely matters when the chances they'll be used from both side at one particular moment is itself 50-50.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Feedback solo?

Can Feedback absorb emotional energy? Even if he could, Hal could just reabsorb the energy that Feedback stole with his own absorption. And has other ways to counter Feedback's absorption once he realizes that energy attacks don't work. Like Transmutation, use magnets on him, use acid on him, use mind hax or freeze him with absolute zero

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Ben typically favors transformations that use brute force before opting to use hax (and most of his aliens have 5-C/Low 5-B durability). He’s most likely to start with a Tier 5 alien and then immediately get knocked out due to the power gap.

 

[Reiner04]

Ben typically favors transformations that use brute force before opting to use hax (and most of his aliens have 5-C/Low 5-B durability). He’s most likely to start with a Tier 5 alien and then immediately get knocked out due to the power gap.

Power gap = failsafe.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Power gap = failsafe.

Hal’s Ring only kills opponents if he wills it to do so. Since Hal isn’t out for blood here, he’s only going to use enough power to KO Ben.

And we know the failsafe doesn’t protect Ben from knockout.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

And the ring only allows lethal force under special circumstances. It's unlikely Ben would fall under one of those circumstances.

 

[Reiner04]

Hal’s Ring only kills opponents if he wills it to do so. Since Hal isn’t out for blood here, he’s only going to use enough power to KO Ben.

Will the ring be able to distinguish the energy Omnitrix has and the Alien Ben transformed into? For instance, Omnitrix would have atleast 1 million aliens inside of its pocket dimension which includes waybig.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Will the ring be able to distinguish the energy Omnitrix has and the Alien Ben transformed into? For instance, Omnitrix would have atleast 1 million aliens inside of its pocket dimension which includes waybig.

Why would that matter. The ring would obviously recognize Ben as a living target.

And doesn't Ben just revert back to human form everytime he gets KO-ed